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I'm trying to mount a Hampton Bay track light power feed to a standard 4" round ceiling box. The power feed seems to be designed for a ceiling box where the mounting screws make a line at 45° to the walls of the room, but the ceiling box I'm working with has the mounting screws such that the line drawn through the two screws is parallel to one wall. Mounting the power feed using the existing screw holes would result in the track running diagonally in relation to the room walls.



Here is a photo of the guts of the power feed



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And here a drawing of the ceiling box with its relationship to the walls



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And a tracing of the power feed baseplate in the same orientation as the ceiling box.



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And finally, what I imagine a 45° offset crossbar bracket would look like if it existed.



enter image description here



I've tried Home Depot (of course), online searches, and several lighting stores but nobody has anything like this. I found a Westinghouse "universal crossbar" but it provides only about 25° of possible rotation, not nearly enough.



I cannot believe this problem has not come up countless times, both in this context and in many others besides track lighting, and a solution must already exist, but I have not been able to find one.










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I'm trying to mount a Hampton Bay track light power feed to a standard 4" round ceiling box. The power feed seems to be designed for a ceiling box where the mounting screws make a line at 45° to the walls of the room, but the ceiling box I'm working with has the mounting screws such that the line drawn through the two screws is parallel to one wall. Mounting the power feed using the existing screw holes would result in the track running diagonally in relation to the room walls.



Here is a photo of the guts of the power feed



enter image description here



And here a drawing of the ceiling box with its relationship to the walls



enter image description here



And a tracing of the power feed baseplate in the same orientation as the ceiling box.



enter image description here



And finally, what I imagine a 45° offset crossbar bracket would look like if it existed.



enter image description here



I've tried Home Depot (of course), online searches, and several lighting stores but nobody has anything like this. I found a Westinghouse "universal crossbar" but it provides only about 25° of possible rotation, not nearly enough.



I cannot believe this problem has not come up countless times, both in this context and in many others besides track lighting, and a solution must already exist, but I have not been able to find one.










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  • Do you mean the image is corrupted? I'm not sure what you're referring to.

    – Jim Garrison
    3 hours ago














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I'm trying to mount a Hampton Bay track light power feed to a standard 4" round ceiling box. The power feed seems to be designed for a ceiling box where the mounting screws make a line at 45° to the walls of the room, but the ceiling box I'm working with has the mounting screws such that the line drawn through the two screws is parallel to one wall. Mounting the power feed using the existing screw holes would result in the track running diagonally in relation to the room walls.



Here is a photo of the guts of the power feed



enter image description here



And here a drawing of the ceiling box with its relationship to the walls



enter image description here



And a tracing of the power feed baseplate in the same orientation as the ceiling box.



enter image description here



And finally, what I imagine a 45° offset crossbar bracket would look like if it existed.



enter image description here



I've tried Home Depot (of course), online searches, and several lighting stores but nobody has anything like this. I found a Westinghouse "universal crossbar" but it provides only about 25° of possible rotation, not nearly enough.



I cannot believe this problem has not come up countless times, both in this context and in many others besides track lighting, and a solution must already exist, but I have not been able to find one.










share|improve this question














I'm trying to mount a Hampton Bay track light power feed to a standard 4" round ceiling box. The power feed seems to be designed for a ceiling box where the mounting screws make a line at 45° to the walls of the room, but the ceiling box I'm working with has the mounting screws such that the line drawn through the two screws is parallel to one wall. Mounting the power feed using the existing screw holes would result in the track running diagonally in relation to the room walls.



Here is a photo of the guts of the power feed



enter image description here



And here a drawing of the ceiling box with its relationship to the walls



enter image description here



And a tracing of the power feed baseplate in the same orientation as the ceiling box.



enter image description here



And finally, what I imagine a 45° offset crossbar bracket would look like if it existed.



enter image description here



I've tried Home Depot (of course), online searches, and several lighting stores but nobody has anything like this. I found a Westinghouse "universal crossbar" but it provides only about 25° of possible rotation, not nearly enough.



I cannot believe this problem has not come up countless times, both in this context and in many others besides track lighting, and a solution must already exist, but I have not been able to find one.







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  • Do you mean the image is corrupted? I'm not sure what you're referring to.

    – Jim Garrison
    3 hours ago



















  • Do you mean the image is corrupted? I'm not sure what you're referring to.

    – Jim Garrison
    3 hours ago

















Do you mean the image is corrupted? I'm not sure what you're referring to.

– Jim Garrison
3 hours ago





Do you mean the image is corrupted? I'm not sure what you're referring to.

– Jim Garrison
3 hours ago










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They make a lot of different crossbars and adapters, including some that swivel. Have you tried one like these?:



enter image description here



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I recommend a good ol' local mom and pop hardware store rather than some big-box warehouse chain store.






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  • @JimGarrison - Due to the fact that the OP will still need to use his Hampton Bay bracket due to the fact that it has the retainer screws for the track and the standoffs for the plastic cover shroud they will have to mount a plate like the first one you show over the electrical box first in the correct orientation using the 3.5" diameter slotted holes. Then they can mount the Hampton Bay bracket to the first bracket through two of the 3.5" spaced threaded holes. The second bracket you show does not feature the necessary threaded holes.

    – Michael Karas
    1 hour ago











  • You should provide picture attributions.

    – Michael Karas
    1 hour ago











  • A full round one that should also work is available with free shipping: amazon.com/Satco-Universal-Crossbar-number-90-1650-SAT/dp/…

    – Michael Karas
    1 hour ago











  • The second one I already tried and as @MichaelKaras indicates it does not work. I will try to find one of the full round ones. Thanks.

    – Jim Garrison
    1 hour ago











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They make a lot of different crossbars and adapters, including some that swivel. Have you tried one like these?:



enter image description here



enter image description here



I recommend a good ol' local mom and pop hardware store rather than some big-box warehouse chain store.






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  • @JimGarrison - Due to the fact that the OP will still need to use his Hampton Bay bracket due to the fact that it has the retainer screws for the track and the standoffs for the plastic cover shroud they will have to mount a plate like the first one you show over the electrical box first in the correct orientation using the 3.5" diameter slotted holes. Then they can mount the Hampton Bay bracket to the first bracket through two of the 3.5" spaced threaded holes. The second bracket you show does not feature the necessary threaded holes.

    – Michael Karas
    1 hour ago











  • You should provide picture attributions.

    – Michael Karas
    1 hour ago











  • A full round one that should also work is available with free shipping: amazon.com/Satco-Universal-Crossbar-number-90-1650-SAT/dp/…

    – Michael Karas
    1 hour ago











  • The second one I already tried and as @MichaelKaras indicates it does not work. I will try to find one of the full round ones. Thanks.

    – Jim Garrison
    1 hour ago
















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They make a lot of different crossbars and adapters, including some that swivel. Have you tried one like these?:



enter image description here



enter image description here



I recommend a good ol' local mom and pop hardware store rather than some big-box warehouse chain store.






share|improve this answer
























  • @JimGarrison - Due to the fact that the OP will still need to use his Hampton Bay bracket due to the fact that it has the retainer screws for the track and the standoffs for the plastic cover shroud they will have to mount a plate like the first one you show over the electrical box first in the correct orientation using the 3.5" diameter slotted holes. Then they can mount the Hampton Bay bracket to the first bracket through two of the 3.5" spaced threaded holes. The second bracket you show does not feature the necessary threaded holes.

    – Michael Karas
    1 hour ago











  • You should provide picture attributions.

    – Michael Karas
    1 hour ago











  • A full round one that should also work is available with free shipping: amazon.com/Satco-Universal-Crossbar-number-90-1650-SAT/dp/…

    – Michael Karas
    1 hour ago











  • The second one I already tried and as @MichaelKaras indicates it does not work. I will try to find one of the full round ones. Thanks.

    – Jim Garrison
    1 hour ago














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They make a lot of different crossbars and adapters, including some that swivel. Have you tried one like these?:



enter image description here



enter image description here



I recommend a good ol' local mom and pop hardware store rather than some big-box warehouse chain store.






share|improve this answer













They make a lot of different crossbars and adapters, including some that swivel. Have you tried one like these?:



enter image description here



enter image description here



I recommend a good ol' local mom and pop hardware store rather than some big-box warehouse chain store.







share|improve this answer












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  • @JimGarrison - Due to the fact that the OP will still need to use his Hampton Bay bracket due to the fact that it has the retainer screws for the track and the standoffs for the plastic cover shroud they will have to mount a plate like the first one you show over the electrical box first in the correct orientation using the 3.5" diameter slotted holes. Then they can mount the Hampton Bay bracket to the first bracket through two of the 3.5" spaced threaded holes. The second bracket you show does not feature the necessary threaded holes.

    – Michael Karas
    1 hour ago











  • You should provide picture attributions.

    – Michael Karas
    1 hour ago











  • A full round one that should also work is available with free shipping: amazon.com/Satco-Universal-Crossbar-number-90-1650-SAT/dp/…

    – Michael Karas
    1 hour ago











  • The second one I already tried and as @MichaelKaras indicates it does not work. I will try to find one of the full round ones. Thanks.

    – Jim Garrison
    1 hour ago



















  • @JimGarrison - Due to the fact that the OP will still need to use his Hampton Bay bracket due to the fact that it has the retainer screws for the track and the standoffs for the plastic cover shroud they will have to mount a plate like the first one you show over the electrical box first in the correct orientation using the 3.5" diameter slotted holes. Then they can mount the Hampton Bay bracket to the first bracket through two of the 3.5" spaced threaded holes. The second bracket you show does not feature the necessary threaded holes.

    – Michael Karas
    1 hour ago











  • You should provide picture attributions.

    – Michael Karas
    1 hour ago











  • A full round one that should also work is available with free shipping: amazon.com/Satco-Universal-Crossbar-number-90-1650-SAT/dp/…

    – Michael Karas
    1 hour ago











  • The second one I already tried and as @MichaelKaras indicates it does not work. I will try to find one of the full round ones. Thanks.

    – Jim Garrison
    1 hour ago

















@JimGarrison - Due to the fact that the OP will still need to use his Hampton Bay bracket due to the fact that it has the retainer screws for the track and the standoffs for the plastic cover shroud they will have to mount a plate like the first one you show over the electrical box first in the correct orientation using the 3.5" diameter slotted holes. Then they can mount the Hampton Bay bracket to the first bracket through two of the 3.5" spaced threaded holes. The second bracket you show does not feature the necessary threaded holes.

– Michael Karas
1 hour ago





@JimGarrison - Due to the fact that the OP will still need to use his Hampton Bay bracket due to the fact that it has the retainer screws for the track and the standoffs for the plastic cover shroud they will have to mount a plate like the first one you show over the electrical box first in the correct orientation using the 3.5" diameter slotted holes. Then they can mount the Hampton Bay bracket to the first bracket through two of the 3.5" spaced threaded holes. The second bracket you show does not feature the necessary threaded holes.

– Michael Karas
1 hour ago













You should provide picture attributions.

– Michael Karas
1 hour ago





You should provide picture attributions.

– Michael Karas
1 hour ago













A full round one that should also work is available with free shipping: amazon.com/Satco-Universal-Crossbar-number-90-1650-SAT/dp/…

– Michael Karas
1 hour ago





A full round one that should also work is available with free shipping: amazon.com/Satco-Universal-Crossbar-number-90-1650-SAT/dp/…

– Michael Karas
1 hour ago













The second one I already tried and as @MichaelKaras indicates it does not work. I will try to find one of the full round ones. Thanks.

– Jim Garrison
1 hour ago





The second one I already tried and as @MichaelKaras indicates it does not work. I will try to find one of the full round ones. Thanks.

– Jim Garrison
1 hour ago


















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