Incompatiblity of Adobe font and xpinyin package?
One of font package (i.e. Adobe Garamond Pro) is not compatible with vowels encoding using xpinyin package. Can I exclude these fonts?
documentclass[margin=10pt]{standalone}
usepackage{xeCJK,xpinyin}
setmainfont{Adobe Garamond Pro} %%problematic with pinyin
begin{document}
xpinyin*{学而不思则罔}
end{document}
xetex font-encodings xpinyin
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One of font package (i.e. Adobe Garamond Pro) is not compatible with vowels encoding using xpinyin package. Can I exclude these fonts?
documentclass[margin=10pt]{standalone}
usepackage{xeCJK,xpinyin}
setmainfont{Adobe Garamond Pro} %%problematic with pinyin
begin{document}
xpinyin*{学而不思则罔}
end{document}
xetex font-encodings xpinyin
This is a just a MWE. I need the Adobe fonts! @Henri Menke
– Tony Tan
4 hours ago
2
I am assuming that you understand Chinese, so I will copy and paste the following description in the user manual ofxpinyin
:设置拼音的字体,缺省值是 normalfont,即以正文西文字体相同。为了保证拼音能正确输出,最好选用收字量较大的西文字体
, which roughly translates toThe font for pīnyīn is the same as the Latin main font. To guarantee correct output of pīnyīn, better choose a Latin font which contains a lot of glyphs
So clearlyAdobe Garamond Pro
is NOT suitable for pīnyīn here.
– Ruixi Zhang
2 hours ago
1
For a comprehensive discussion on pīnyīn, I suggest this article by Type is Beautiful. The article (in Chinese, simplified and traditional versions available) also gives suggestions on the font choice for pīnyīn.
– Ruixi Zhang
2 hours ago
@RuixiZhang Thank you for your information!
– Tony Tan
1 hour ago
@HenriMenke Deleting my answer: Huh. For whatever reason, when Adobe’s site gives me the ability to type in a font sample for Adobe Garamond Pro, and I enter that combination, it works. Is that a newer version of the font, or is the website giving inaccurate information?
– Davislor
49 mins ago
add a comment |
One of font package (i.e. Adobe Garamond Pro) is not compatible with vowels encoding using xpinyin package. Can I exclude these fonts?
documentclass[margin=10pt]{standalone}
usepackage{xeCJK,xpinyin}
setmainfont{Adobe Garamond Pro} %%problematic with pinyin
begin{document}
xpinyin*{学而不思则罔}
end{document}
xetex font-encodings xpinyin
One of font package (i.e. Adobe Garamond Pro) is not compatible with vowels encoding using xpinyin package. Can I exclude these fonts?
documentclass[margin=10pt]{standalone}
usepackage{xeCJK,xpinyin}
setmainfont{Adobe Garamond Pro} %%problematic with pinyin
begin{document}
xpinyin*{学而不思则罔}
end{document}
xetex font-encodings xpinyin
xetex font-encodings xpinyin
asked 5 hours ago
Tony TanTony Tan
1186
1186
This is a just a MWE. I need the Adobe fonts! @Henri Menke
– Tony Tan
4 hours ago
2
I am assuming that you understand Chinese, so I will copy and paste the following description in the user manual ofxpinyin
:设置拼音的字体,缺省值是 normalfont,即以正文西文字体相同。为了保证拼音能正确输出,最好选用收字量较大的西文字体
, which roughly translates toThe font for pīnyīn is the same as the Latin main font. To guarantee correct output of pīnyīn, better choose a Latin font which contains a lot of glyphs
So clearlyAdobe Garamond Pro
is NOT suitable for pīnyīn here.
– Ruixi Zhang
2 hours ago
1
For a comprehensive discussion on pīnyīn, I suggest this article by Type is Beautiful. The article (in Chinese, simplified and traditional versions available) also gives suggestions on the font choice for pīnyīn.
– Ruixi Zhang
2 hours ago
@RuixiZhang Thank you for your information!
– Tony Tan
1 hour ago
@HenriMenke Deleting my answer: Huh. For whatever reason, when Adobe’s site gives me the ability to type in a font sample for Adobe Garamond Pro, and I enter that combination, it works. Is that a newer version of the font, or is the website giving inaccurate information?
– Davislor
49 mins ago
add a comment |
This is a just a MWE. I need the Adobe fonts! @Henri Menke
– Tony Tan
4 hours ago
2
I am assuming that you understand Chinese, so I will copy and paste the following description in the user manual ofxpinyin
:设置拼音的字体,缺省值是 normalfont,即以正文西文字体相同。为了保证拼音能正确输出,最好选用收字量较大的西文字体
, which roughly translates toThe font for pīnyīn is the same as the Latin main font. To guarantee correct output of pīnyīn, better choose a Latin font which contains a lot of glyphs
So clearlyAdobe Garamond Pro
is NOT suitable for pīnyīn here.
– Ruixi Zhang
2 hours ago
1
For a comprehensive discussion on pīnyīn, I suggest this article by Type is Beautiful. The article (in Chinese, simplified and traditional versions available) also gives suggestions on the font choice for pīnyīn.
– Ruixi Zhang
2 hours ago
@RuixiZhang Thank you for your information!
– Tony Tan
1 hour ago
@HenriMenke Deleting my answer: Huh. For whatever reason, when Adobe’s site gives me the ability to type in a font sample for Adobe Garamond Pro, and I enter that combination, it works. Is that a newer version of the font, or is the website giving inaccurate information?
– Davislor
49 mins ago
This is a just a MWE. I need the Adobe fonts! @Henri Menke
– Tony Tan
4 hours ago
This is a just a MWE. I need the Adobe fonts! @Henri Menke
– Tony Tan
4 hours ago
2
2
I am assuming that you understand Chinese, so I will copy and paste the following description in the user manual of
xpinyin
: 设置拼音的字体,缺省值是 normalfont,即以正文西文字体相同。为了保证拼音能正确输出,最好选用收字量较大的西文字体
, which roughly translates to The font for pīnyīn is the same as the Latin main font. To guarantee correct output of pīnyīn, better choose a Latin font which contains a lot of glyphs
So clearly Adobe Garamond Pro
is NOT suitable for pīnyīn here.– Ruixi Zhang
2 hours ago
I am assuming that you understand Chinese, so I will copy and paste the following description in the user manual of
xpinyin
: 设置拼音的字体,缺省值是 normalfont,即以正文西文字体相同。为了保证拼音能正确输出,最好选用收字量较大的西文字体
, which roughly translates to The font for pīnyīn is the same as the Latin main font. To guarantee correct output of pīnyīn, better choose a Latin font which contains a lot of glyphs
So clearly Adobe Garamond Pro
is NOT suitable for pīnyīn here.– Ruixi Zhang
2 hours ago
1
1
For a comprehensive discussion on pīnyīn, I suggest this article by Type is Beautiful. The article (in Chinese, simplified and traditional versions available) also gives suggestions on the font choice for pīnyīn.
– Ruixi Zhang
2 hours ago
For a comprehensive discussion on pīnyīn, I suggest this article by Type is Beautiful. The article (in Chinese, simplified and traditional versions available) also gives suggestions on the font choice for pīnyīn.
– Ruixi Zhang
2 hours ago
@RuixiZhang Thank you for your information!
– Tony Tan
1 hour ago
@RuixiZhang Thank you for your information!
– Tony Tan
1 hour ago
@HenriMenke Deleting my answer: Huh. For whatever reason, when Adobe’s site gives me the ability to type in a font sample for Adobe Garamond Pro, and I enter that combination, it works. Is that a newer version of the font, or is the website giving inaccurate information?
– Davislor
49 mins ago
@HenriMenke Deleting my answer: Huh. For whatever reason, when Adobe’s site gives me the ability to type in a font sample for Adobe Garamond Pro, and I enter that combination, it works. Is that a newer version of the font, or is the website giving inaccurate information?
– Davislor
49 mins ago
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Adobe Garamond does not encode ǎ
(U+01CE LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH CARON) and is also missing ̌
(U+030C COMBINING CARON). I can think of two solutions:
Use a different font. There are plenty of nice Garamond-derived typefaces out there which do not have such spotty encoding (and are non-commercial!).
documentclass[margin=10pt]{standalone}
usepackage{xeCJK,xpinyin}
setmainfont{EB Garamond}
begin{document}
xpinyin*{学而不思则罔}
end{document}
documentclass[margin=10pt]{standalone}
usepackage{xeCJK,xpinyin}
setmainfont{Cormorant Garamond}
begin{document}
xpinyin*{学而不思则罔}
end{document}
Remap
ǎ
(U+01CE LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH CARON) to something else. Here I map it to just the regulara
(U+0061 LATIN SMALL LETTER A). The mapping below is derived from the standardtex-text
mapping.
acaron.map
LHSName "acaron"
RHSName "a"
pass(Unicode)
; replace acaron with a
U+01CE > U+0061 ;
; ligatures from Knuth's original CMR fonts
U+002D U+002D <> U+2013 ; -- -> en dash
U+002D U+002D U+002D <> U+2014 ; --- -> em dash
U+0027 <> U+2019 ; ' -> right single quote
U+0027 U+0027 <> U+201D ; '' -> right double quote
U+0022 > U+201D ; " -> right double quote
U+0060 <> U+2018 ; ` -> left single quote
U+0060 U+0060 <> U+201C ; `` -> left double quote
U+0021 U+0060 <> U+00A1 ; !` -> inverted exclam
U+003F U+0060 <> U+00BF ; ?` -> inverted question
The I compile the mapping using the TECkit tool.
teckit_compile -u acaron.map -o acaron.tec
Afterwards it can be used in XeLaTeX.
documentclass[margin=10pt]{standalone}
usepackage{xeCJK,xpinyin}
setmainfont[Mapping=acaron]{Adobe Garamond Pro}
begin{document}
xpinyin*{学而不思则罔}
end{document}
You could also choose the mapping
U+01CE > U+02C7 U+0061 ;
, i.e. caron followed by a, which then renders as
That's not pretty but at least preserves the meaning.
+1 for mentioningEB Garamond
! However, as a native speaker, I disagree with the last solution withU+01CE > U+02C7 U+0061 ;
. A more acceptable solution would bewang3
with the3
denoting the tone, whilewang
(with only the regulara
) would be utterly wrong. ;-)
– Ruixi Zhang
2 hours ago
add a comment |
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Adobe Garamond does not encode ǎ
(U+01CE LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH CARON) and is also missing ̌
(U+030C COMBINING CARON). I can think of two solutions:
Use a different font. There are plenty of nice Garamond-derived typefaces out there which do not have such spotty encoding (and are non-commercial!).
documentclass[margin=10pt]{standalone}
usepackage{xeCJK,xpinyin}
setmainfont{EB Garamond}
begin{document}
xpinyin*{学而不思则罔}
end{document}
documentclass[margin=10pt]{standalone}
usepackage{xeCJK,xpinyin}
setmainfont{Cormorant Garamond}
begin{document}
xpinyin*{学而不思则罔}
end{document}
Remap
ǎ
(U+01CE LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH CARON) to something else. Here I map it to just the regulara
(U+0061 LATIN SMALL LETTER A). The mapping below is derived from the standardtex-text
mapping.
acaron.map
LHSName "acaron"
RHSName "a"
pass(Unicode)
; replace acaron with a
U+01CE > U+0061 ;
; ligatures from Knuth's original CMR fonts
U+002D U+002D <> U+2013 ; -- -> en dash
U+002D U+002D U+002D <> U+2014 ; --- -> em dash
U+0027 <> U+2019 ; ' -> right single quote
U+0027 U+0027 <> U+201D ; '' -> right double quote
U+0022 > U+201D ; " -> right double quote
U+0060 <> U+2018 ; ` -> left single quote
U+0060 U+0060 <> U+201C ; `` -> left double quote
U+0021 U+0060 <> U+00A1 ; !` -> inverted exclam
U+003F U+0060 <> U+00BF ; ?` -> inverted question
The I compile the mapping using the TECkit tool.
teckit_compile -u acaron.map -o acaron.tec
Afterwards it can be used in XeLaTeX.
documentclass[margin=10pt]{standalone}
usepackage{xeCJK,xpinyin}
setmainfont[Mapping=acaron]{Adobe Garamond Pro}
begin{document}
xpinyin*{学而不思则罔}
end{document}
You could also choose the mapping
U+01CE > U+02C7 U+0061 ;
, i.e. caron followed by a, which then renders as
That's not pretty but at least preserves the meaning.
+1 for mentioningEB Garamond
! However, as a native speaker, I disagree with the last solution withU+01CE > U+02C7 U+0061 ;
. A more acceptable solution would bewang3
with the3
denoting the tone, whilewang
(with only the regulara
) would be utterly wrong. ;-)
– Ruixi Zhang
2 hours ago
add a comment |
Adobe Garamond does not encode ǎ
(U+01CE LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH CARON) and is also missing ̌
(U+030C COMBINING CARON). I can think of two solutions:
Use a different font. There are plenty of nice Garamond-derived typefaces out there which do not have such spotty encoding (and are non-commercial!).
documentclass[margin=10pt]{standalone}
usepackage{xeCJK,xpinyin}
setmainfont{EB Garamond}
begin{document}
xpinyin*{学而不思则罔}
end{document}
documentclass[margin=10pt]{standalone}
usepackage{xeCJK,xpinyin}
setmainfont{Cormorant Garamond}
begin{document}
xpinyin*{学而不思则罔}
end{document}
Remap
ǎ
(U+01CE LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH CARON) to something else. Here I map it to just the regulara
(U+0061 LATIN SMALL LETTER A). The mapping below is derived from the standardtex-text
mapping.
acaron.map
LHSName "acaron"
RHSName "a"
pass(Unicode)
; replace acaron with a
U+01CE > U+0061 ;
; ligatures from Knuth's original CMR fonts
U+002D U+002D <> U+2013 ; -- -> en dash
U+002D U+002D U+002D <> U+2014 ; --- -> em dash
U+0027 <> U+2019 ; ' -> right single quote
U+0027 U+0027 <> U+201D ; '' -> right double quote
U+0022 > U+201D ; " -> right double quote
U+0060 <> U+2018 ; ` -> left single quote
U+0060 U+0060 <> U+201C ; `` -> left double quote
U+0021 U+0060 <> U+00A1 ; !` -> inverted exclam
U+003F U+0060 <> U+00BF ; ?` -> inverted question
The I compile the mapping using the TECkit tool.
teckit_compile -u acaron.map -o acaron.tec
Afterwards it can be used in XeLaTeX.
documentclass[margin=10pt]{standalone}
usepackage{xeCJK,xpinyin}
setmainfont[Mapping=acaron]{Adobe Garamond Pro}
begin{document}
xpinyin*{学而不思则罔}
end{document}
You could also choose the mapping
U+01CE > U+02C7 U+0061 ;
, i.e. caron followed by a, which then renders as
That's not pretty but at least preserves the meaning.
+1 for mentioningEB Garamond
! However, as a native speaker, I disagree with the last solution withU+01CE > U+02C7 U+0061 ;
. A more acceptable solution would bewang3
with the3
denoting the tone, whilewang
(with only the regulara
) would be utterly wrong. ;-)
– Ruixi Zhang
2 hours ago
add a comment |
Adobe Garamond does not encode ǎ
(U+01CE LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH CARON) and is also missing ̌
(U+030C COMBINING CARON). I can think of two solutions:
Use a different font. There are plenty of nice Garamond-derived typefaces out there which do not have such spotty encoding (and are non-commercial!).
documentclass[margin=10pt]{standalone}
usepackage{xeCJK,xpinyin}
setmainfont{EB Garamond}
begin{document}
xpinyin*{学而不思则罔}
end{document}
documentclass[margin=10pt]{standalone}
usepackage{xeCJK,xpinyin}
setmainfont{Cormorant Garamond}
begin{document}
xpinyin*{学而不思则罔}
end{document}
Remap
ǎ
(U+01CE LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH CARON) to something else. Here I map it to just the regulara
(U+0061 LATIN SMALL LETTER A). The mapping below is derived from the standardtex-text
mapping.
acaron.map
LHSName "acaron"
RHSName "a"
pass(Unicode)
; replace acaron with a
U+01CE > U+0061 ;
; ligatures from Knuth's original CMR fonts
U+002D U+002D <> U+2013 ; -- -> en dash
U+002D U+002D U+002D <> U+2014 ; --- -> em dash
U+0027 <> U+2019 ; ' -> right single quote
U+0027 U+0027 <> U+201D ; '' -> right double quote
U+0022 > U+201D ; " -> right double quote
U+0060 <> U+2018 ; ` -> left single quote
U+0060 U+0060 <> U+201C ; `` -> left double quote
U+0021 U+0060 <> U+00A1 ; !` -> inverted exclam
U+003F U+0060 <> U+00BF ; ?` -> inverted question
The I compile the mapping using the TECkit tool.
teckit_compile -u acaron.map -o acaron.tec
Afterwards it can be used in XeLaTeX.
documentclass[margin=10pt]{standalone}
usepackage{xeCJK,xpinyin}
setmainfont[Mapping=acaron]{Adobe Garamond Pro}
begin{document}
xpinyin*{学而不思则罔}
end{document}
You could also choose the mapping
U+01CE > U+02C7 U+0061 ;
, i.e. caron followed by a, which then renders as
That's not pretty but at least preserves the meaning.
Adobe Garamond does not encode ǎ
(U+01CE LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH CARON) and is also missing ̌
(U+030C COMBINING CARON). I can think of two solutions:
Use a different font. There are plenty of nice Garamond-derived typefaces out there which do not have such spotty encoding (and are non-commercial!).
documentclass[margin=10pt]{standalone}
usepackage{xeCJK,xpinyin}
setmainfont{EB Garamond}
begin{document}
xpinyin*{学而不思则罔}
end{document}
documentclass[margin=10pt]{standalone}
usepackage{xeCJK,xpinyin}
setmainfont{Cormorant Garamond}
begin{document}
xpinyin*{学而不思则罔}
end{document}
Remap
ǎ
(U+01CE LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH CARON) to something else. Here I map it to just the regulara
(U+0061 LATIN SMALL LETTER A). The mapping below is derived from the standardtex-text
mapping.
acaron.map
LHSName "acaron"
RHSName "a"
pass(Unicode)
; replace acaron with a
U+01CE > U+0061 ;
; ligatures from Knuth's original CMR fonts
U+002D U+002D <> U+2013 ; -- -> en dash
U+002D U+002D U+002D <> U+2014 ; --- -> em dash
U+0027 <> U+2019 ; ' -> right single quote
U+0027 U+0027 <> U+201D ; '' -> right double quote
U+0022 > U+201D ; " -> right double quote
U+0060 <> U+2018 ; ` -> left single quote
U+0060 U+0060 <> U+201C ; `` -> left double quote
U+0021 U+0060 <> U+00A1 ; !` -> inverted exclam
U+003F U+0060 <> U+00BF ; ?` -> inverted question
The I compile the mapping using the TECkit tool.
teckit_compile -u acaron.map -o acaron.tec
Afterwards it can be used in XeLaTeX.
documentclass[margin=10pt]{standalone}
usepackage{xeCJK,xpinyin}
setmainfont[Mapping=acaron]{Adobe Garamond Pro}
begin{document}
xpinyin*{学而不思则罔}
end{document}
You could also choose the mapping
U+01CE > U+02C7 U+0061 ;
, i.e. caron followed by a, which then renders as
That's not pretty but at least preserves the meaning.
edited 3 hours ago
answered 3 hours ago
Henri MenkeHenri Menke
72.6k8160270
72.6k8160270
+1 for mentioningEB Garamond
! However, as a native speaker, I disagree with the last solution withU+01CE > U+02C7 U+0061 ;
. A more acceptable solution would bewang3
with the3
denoting the tone, whilewang
(with only the regulara
) would be utterly wrong. ;-)
– Ruixi Zhang
2 hours ago
add a comment |
+1 for mentioningEB Garamond
! However, as a native speaker, I disagree with the last solution withU+01CE > U+02C7 U+0061 ;
. A more acceptable solution would bewang3
with the3
denoting the tone, whilewang
(with only the regulara
) would be utterly wrong. ;-)
– Ruixi Zhang
2 hours ago
+1 for mentioning
EB Garamond
! However, as a native speaker, I disagree with the last solution with U+01CE > U+02C7 U+0061 ;
. A more acceptable solution would be wang3
with the 3
denoting the tone, while wang
(with only the regular a
) would be utterly wrong. ;-)– Ruixi Zhang
2 hours ago
+1 for mentioning
EB Garamond
! However, as a native speaker, I disagree with the last solution with U+01CE > U+02C7 U+0061 ;
. A more acceptable solution would be wang3
with the 3
denoting the tone, while wang
(with only the regular a
) would be utterly wrong. ;-)– Ruixi Zhang
2 hours ago
add a comment |
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This is a just a MWE. I need the Adobe fonts! @Henri Menke
– Tony Tan
4 hours ago
2
I am assuming that you understand Chinese, so I will copy and paste the following description in the user manual of
xpinyin
:设置拼音的字体,缺省值是 normalfont,即以正文西文字体相同。为了保证拼音能正确输出,最好选用收字量较大的西文字体
, which roughly translates toThe font for pīnyīn is the same as the Latin main font. To guarantee correct output of pīnyīn, better choose a Latin font which contains a lot of glyphs
So clearlyAdobe Garamond Pro
is NOT suitable for pīnyīn here.– Ruixi Zhang
2 hours ago
1
For a comprehensive discussion on pīnyīn, I suggest this article by Type is Beautiful. The article (in Chinese, simplified and traditional versions available) also gives suggestions on the font choice for pīnyīn.
– Ruixi Zhang
2 hours ago
@RuixiZhang Thank you for your information!
– Tony Tan
1 hour ago
@HenriMenke Deleting my answer: Huh. For whatever reason, when Adobe’s site gives me the ability to type in a font sample for Adobe Garamond Pro, and I enter that combination, it works. Is that a newer version of the font, or is the website giving inaccurate information?
– Davislor
49 mins ago