乘 vs 承 - are they related?
Just learnt a few verbs which use 乘 and 承 and was thinking that, not only do they look and sound mighty similar, but their ultimate meanings are both related to 'transfering' something. 乘 with vehicles from one place to another and 承 with transferring responsibility (承担) or transferring guilt (承认).
Anyone know if they stem from the same root? If so, how did they come to be different?
Hashamyim
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Just learnt a few verbs which use 乘 and 承 and was thinking that, not only do they look and sound mighty similar, but their ultimate meanings are both related to 'transfering' something. 乘 with vehicles from one place to another and 承 with transferring responsibility (承担) or transferring guilt (承认).
Anyone know if they stem from the same root? If so, how did they come to be different?
Hashamyim
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edited Dec 23 at 23:09
droooze
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Hashamyim
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乘= ride (on above) ; 承= hold up ( from under)/ take on
– Tang Ho
Dec 23 at 21:53
see dictionaries, e.g. bkrs, 乘 乗 (1) (会意。 甲骨文字形, 从大(人)从木, 表示人爬在树上。 "大"象"人"正面。 本义: 登, 升) (2) 同本义 [ascend] 乘, 升也。 --《玉篇》 承 (1) (会意。 甲骨文字形, 上面象跽跪着的人, 下面象两只手。 合起来表示人被双手捧着或接着。 本义: 捧着) (2) [hold in the palm; support with the palm; bear]
– user6065
Dec 23 at 22:51
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Just learnt a few verbs which use 乘 and 承 and was thinking that, not only do they look and sound mighty similar, but their ultimate meanings are both related to 'transfering' something. 乘 with vehicles from one place to another and 承 with transferring responsibility (承担) or transferring guilt (承认).
Anyone know if they stem from the same root? If so, how did they come to be different?
Hashamyim
etymology glyph-origin
edited Dec 23 at 23:09
droooze
6,8761719
asked Dec 23 at 21:38
Hashamyim
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Just learnt a few verbs which use 乘 and 承 and was thinking that, not only do they look and sound mighty similar, but their ultimate meanings are both related to 'transfering' something. 乘 with vehicles from one place to another and 承 with transferring responsibility (承担) or transferring guilt (承认).
Anyone know if they stem from the same root? If so, how did they come to be different?
Hashamyim
etymology glyph-origin
etymology glyph-origin
edited Dec 23 at 23:09
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asked Dec 23 at 21:38
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乘= ride (on above) ; 承= hold up ( from under)/ take on
– Tang Ho
Dec 23 at 21:53
see dictionaries, e.g. bkrs, 乘 乗 (1) (会意。 甲骨文字形, 从大(人)从木, 表示人爬在树上。 "大"象"人"正面。 本义: 登, 升) (2) 同本义 [ascend] 乘, 升也。 --《玉篇》 承 (1) (会意。 甲骨文字形, 上面象跽跪着的人, 下面象两只手。 合起来表示人被双手捧着或接着。 本义: 捧着) (2) [hold in the palm; support with the palm; bear]
– user6065
Dec 23 at 22:51
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乘= ride (on above) ; 承= hold up ( from under)/ take on
– Tang Ho
Dec 23 at 21:53
see dictionaries, e.g. bkrs, 乘 乗 (1) (会意。 甲骨文字形, 从大(人)从木, 表示人爬在树上。 "大"象"人"正面。 本义: 登, 升) (2) 同本义 [ascend] 乘, 升也。 --《玉篇》 承 (1) (会意。 甲骨文字形, 上面象跽跪着的人, 下面象两只手。 合起来表示人被双手捧着或接着。 本义: 捧着) (2) [hold in the palm; support with the palm; bear]
– user6065
Dec 23 at 22:51
乘= ride (on above) ; 承= hold up ( from under)/ take on
– Tang Ho
Dec 23 at 21:53
乘= ride (on above) ; 承= hold up ( from under)/ take on
– Tang Ho
Dec 23 at 21:53
see dictionaries, e.g. bkrs, 乘 乗 (1) (会意。 甲骨文字形, 从大(人)从木, 表示人爬在树上。 "大"象"人"正面。 本义: 登, 升) (2) 同本义 [ascend] 乘, 升也。 --《玉篇》 承 (1) (会意。 甲骨文字形, 上面象跽跪着的人, 下面象两只手。 合起来表示人被双手捧着或接着。 本义: 捧着) (2) [hold in the palm; support with the palm; bear]
– user6065
Dec 23 at 22:51
see dictionaries, e.g. bkrs, 乘 乗 (1) (会意。 甲骨文字形, 从大(人)从木, 表示人爬在树上。 "大"象"人"正面。 本义: 登, 升) (2) 同本义 [ascend] 乘, 升也。 --《玉篇》 承 (1) (会意。 甲骨文字形, 上面象跽跪着的人, 下面象两只手。 合起来表示人被双手捧着或接着。 本义: 捧着) (2) [hold in the palm; support with the palm; bear]
– user6065
Dec 23 at 22:51
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「乘」and「承」do indeed sound similar, but an etymological relation (if any) would be before the time of Old Chinese. They are unrelated, as far as usage or glyph origins is concerned.
乘
「乘」was originally a picture of a person「大」climbing on top of a tree「木」; feet「舛」were added on to the person later (Shape #2 onwards).
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甲
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篆
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現代
楷
The original meanings were to ascend, to ride an object, extended to mean to take advantage of [a situation]. It does not mean to transfer, which is a coincidence due to its meaning of ride.
承
「承」was originally a picture of two hands「𠂇」and「又」holding up a kneeling person「卩」. The kneeling person's legs were straightened (Shape #2), then replaced with another hand「手」to emphasise the meaning of holding up, leaving behind a small shape representing the rest of the person (Shape #3 onwards).
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The original meaning was to hold up, extended to mean to carry responsibility > to inherit, carry on, continue. To transfer may give a wrong impression if used incorrectly; it is only related in the sense of to inherit, carry on, continue.
References:
- 季旭昇《說文新證》
- 小學堂
- 國學大師
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Wow - very authoritative answer - thanks for taking the time to provide the info :-)
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「乘」and「承」do indeed sound similar, but an etymological relation (if any) would be before the time of Old Chinese. They are unrelated, as far as usage or glyph origins is concerned.
乘
「乘」was originally a picture of a person「大」climbing on top of a tree「木」; feet「舛」were added on to the person later (Shape #2 onwards).
商
甲
粹1109
合集6491西周
金
公臣簋
集成4186
篆
說文解字
現代
楷
The original meanings were to ascend, to ride an object, extended to mean to take advantage of [a situation]. It does not mean to transfer, which is a coincidence due to its meaning of ride.
承
「承」was originally a picture of two hands「𠂇」and「又」holding up a kneeling person「卩」. The kneeling person's legs were straightened (Shape #2), then replaced with another hand「手」to emphasise the meaning of holding up, leaving behind a small shape representing the rest of the person (Shape #3 onwards).
商
甲
後2.30.12
合集9175戰國
金
令狐君嗣子
集成9719
篆
說文解字
現代
楷
The original meaning was to hold up, extended to mean to carry responsibility > to inherit, carry on, continue. To transfer may give a wrong impression if used incorrectly; it is only related in the sense of to inherit, carry on, continue.
References:
- 季旭昇《說文新證》
- 小學堂
- 國學大師
answered Dec 23 at 23:03
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Wow - very authoritative answer - thanks for taking the time to provide the info :-)
– Hashamyim
Dec 24 at 0:13
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「乘」and「承」do indeed sound similar, but an etymological relation (if any) would be before the time of Old Chinese. They are unrelated, as far as usage or glyph origins is concerned.
乘
「乘」was originally a picture of a person「大」climbing on top of a tree「木」; feet「舛」were added on to the person later (Shape #2 onwards).
商
甲
粹1109
合集6491西周
金
公臣簋
集成4186
篆
說文解字
現代
楷
The original meanings were to ascend, to ride an object, extended to mean to take advantage of [a situation]. It does not mean to transfer, which is a coincidence due to its meaning of ride.
承
「承」was originally a picture of two hands「𠂇」and「又」holding up a kneeling person「卩」. The kneeling person's legs were straightened (Shape #2), then replaced with another hand「手」to emphasise the meaning of holding up, leaving behind a small shape representing the rest of the person (Shape #3 onwards).
商
甲
後2.30.12
合集9175戰國
金
令狐君嗣子
集成9719
篆
說文解字
現代
楷
The original meaning was to hold up, extended to mean to carry responsibility > to inherit, carry on, continue. To transfer may give a wrong impression if used incorrectly; it is only related in the sense of to inherit, carry on, continue.
References:
- 季旭昇《說文新證》
- 小學堂
- 國學大師
answered Dec 23 at 23:03
droooze
6,8761719
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Wow - very authoritative answer - thanks for taking the time to provide the info :-)
– Hashamyim
Dec 24 at 0:13
add a comment |
「乘」and「承」do indeed sound similar, but an etymological relation (if any) would be before the time of Old Chinese. They are unrelated, as far as usage or glyph origins is concerned.
乘
「乘」was originally a picture of a person「大」climbing on top of a tree「木」; feet「舛」were added on to the person later (Shape #2 onwards).
商
甲
粹1109
合集6491西周
金
公臣簋
集成4186
篆
說文解字
現代
楷
The original meanings were to ascend, to ride an object, extended to mean to take advantage of [a situation]. It does not mean to transfer, which is a coincidence due to its meaning of ride.
承
「承」was originally a picture of two hands「𠂇」and「又」holding up a kneeling person「卩」. The kneeling person's legs were straightened (Shape #2), then replaced with another hand「手」to emphasise the meaning of holding up, leaving behind a small shape representing the rest of the person (Shape #3 onwards).
商
甲
後2.30.12
合集9175戰國
金
令狐君嗣子
集成9719
篆
說文解字
現代
楷
The original meaning was to hold up, extended to mean to carry responsibility > to inherit, carry on, continue. To transfer may give a wrong impression if used incorrectly; it is only related in the sense of to inherit, carry on, continue.
References:
- 季旭昇《說文新證》
- 小學堂
- 國學大師
answered Dec 23 at 23:03
droooze
6,8761719
「乘」and「承」do indeed sound similar, but an etymological relation (if any) would be before the time of Old Chinese. They are unrelated, as far as usage or glyph origins is concerned.
乘
「乘」was originally a picture of a person「大」climbing on top of a tree「木」; feet「舛」were added on to the person later (Shape #2 onwards).
商
甲
粹1109
合集6491西周
金
公臣簋
集成4186
篆
說文解字
現代
楷
The original meanings were to ascend, to ride an object, extended to mean to take advantage of [a situation]. It does not mean to transfer, which is a coincidence due to its meaning of ride.
承
「承」was originally a picture of two hands「𠂇」and「又」holding up a kneeling person「卩」. The kneeling person's legs were straightened (Shape #2), then replaced with another hand「手」to emphasise the meaning of holding up, leaving behind a small shape representing the rest of the person (Shape #3 onwards).
商
甲
後2.30.12
合集9175戰國
金
令狐君嗣子
集成9719
篆
說文解字
現代
楷
The original meaning was to hold up, extended to mean to carry responsibility > to inherit, carry on, continue. To transfer may give a wrong impression if used incorrectly; it is only related in the sense of to inherit, carry on, continue.
References:
- 季旭昇《說文新證》
- 小學堂
- 國學大師
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Wow - very authoritative answer - thanks for taking the time to provide the info :-)
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乘= ride (on above) ; 承= hold up ( from under)/ take on
– Tang Ho
Dec 23 at 21:53
see dictionaries, e.g. bkrs, 乘 乗 (1) (会意。 甲骨文字形, 从大(人)从木, 表示人爬在树上。 "大"象"人"正面。 本义: 登, 升) (2) 同本义 [ascend] 乘, 升也。 --《玉篇》 承 (1) (会意。 甲骨文字形, 上面象跽跪着的人, 下面象两只手。 合起来表示人被双手捧着或接着。 本义: 捧着) (2) [hold in the palm; support with the palm; bear]
– user6065
Dec 23 at 22:51