Unpublished research similar to mine
up vote
7
down vote
favorite
I am a PhD student and I wrote a paper in the social sciences. The contribution of my paper is that it's the first non-North American analysis on the subject.
There is a working paper I found online from a doctoral student in another university, whose research is semi-similar to mine, and who looks outside of North America.
I am submitting my paper to an academic Journal. I have not cited the other students paper. It's been two years since they uploaded the working paper, and there is no sign of it published anywhere, and no update on the students (now a post doc) own research website. I tried to contact the author to ask if they intend to publish, I got no response.
I did not reference their paper in my research, because I don't think it's right that I should forfeit my contribution for an incomplete paper that doesn't seem to be heading to a journal and undergo peer review.
I am seeking opinions/guidance as to whether I am right. My supervisor has provided no guidance, and I can't find information on the internet.
publications citations peer-review
add a comment |
up vote
7
down vote
favorite
I am a PhD student and I wrote a paper in the social sciences. The contribution of my paper is that it's the first non-North American analysis on the subject.
There is a working paper I found online from a doctoral student in another university, whose research is semi-similar to mine, and who looks outside of North America.
I am submitting my paper to an academic Journal. I have not cited the other students paper. It's been two years since they uploaded the working paper, and there is no sign of it published anywhere, and no update on the students (now a post doc) own research website. I tried to contact the author to ask if they intend to publish, I got no response.
I did not reference their paper in my research, because I don't think it's right that I should forfeit my contribution for an incomplete paper that doesn't seem to be heading to a journal and undergo peer review.
I am seeking opinions/guidance as to whether I am right. My supervisor has provided no guidance, and I can't find information on the internet.
publications citations peer-review
10
Surely you should reference that paper in your literature survey (or equivalent). If a reviewer knows of that paper then you may end up worse off... How can yours be the "first" if that other one exists?
– Solar Mike
Dec 11 at 16:13
For most fields, whether the other paper was done in North America or elsewhere will have no bearing. For some research on government, or social systems it would be different. But that implies that "place" is an inherent part of the research itself.
– Buffy
Dec 12 at 18:34
add a comment |
up vote
7
down vote
favorite
up vote
7
down vote
favorite
I am a PhD student and I wrote a paper in the social sciences. The contribution of my paper is that it's the first non-North American analysis on the subject.
There is a working paper I found online from a doctoral student in another university, whose research is semi-similar to mine, and who looks outside of North America.
I am submitting my paper to an academic Journal. I have not cited the other students paper. It's been two years since they uploaded the working paper, and there is no sign of it published anywhere, and no update on the students (now a post doc) own research website. I tried to contact the author to ask if they intend to publish, I got no response.
I did not reference their paper in my research, because I don't think it's right that I should forfeit my contribution for an incomplete paper that doesn't seem to be heading to a journal and undergo peer review.
I am seeking opinions/guidance as to whether I am right. My supervisor has provided no guidance, and I can't find information on the internet.
publications citations peer-review
I am a PhD student and I wrote a paper in the social sciences. The contribution of my paper is that it's the first non-North American analysis on the subject.
There is a working paper I found online from a doctoral student in another university, whose research is semi-similar to mine, and who looks outside of North America.
I am submitting my paper to an academic Journal. I have not cited the other students paper. It's been two years since they uploaded the working paper, and there is no sign of it published anywhere, and no update on the students (now a post doc) own research website. I tried to contact the author to ask if they intend to publish, I got no response.
I did not reference their paper in my research, because I don't think it's right that I should forfeit my contribution for an incomplete paper that doesn't seem to be heading to a journal and undergo peer review.
I am seeking opinions/guidance as to whether I am right. My supervisor has provided no guidance, and I can't find information on the internet.
publications citations peer-review
publications citations peer-review
edited Dec 11 at 21:43
corey979
3,68441831
3,68441831
asked Dec 11 at 15:59
Kelly
489613
489613
10
Surely you should reference that paper in your literature survey (or equivalent). If a reviewer knows of that paper then you may end up worse off... How can yours be the "first" if that other one exists?
– Solar Mike
Dec 11 at 16:13
For most fields, whether the other paper was done in North America or elsewhere will have no bearing. For some research on government, or social systems it would be different. But that implies that "place" is an inherent part of the research itself.
– Buffy
Dec 12 at 18:34
add a comment |
10
Surely you should reference that paper in your literature survey (or equivalent). If a reviewer knows of that paper then you may end up worse off... How can yours be the "first" if that other one exists?
– Solar Mike
Dec 11 at 16:13
For most fields, whether the other paper was done in North America or elsewhere will have no bearing. For some research on government, or social systems it would be different. But that implies that "place" is an inherent part of the research itself.
– Buffy
Dec 12 at 18:34
10
10
Surely you should reference that paper in your literature survey (or equivalent). If a reviewer knows of that paper then you may end up worse off... How can yours be the "first" if that other one exists?
– Solar Mike
Dec 11 at 16:13
Surely you should reference that paper in your literature survey (or equivalent). If a reviewer knows of that paper then you may end up worse off... How can yours be the "first" if that other one exists?
– Solar Mike
Dec 11 at 16:13
For most fields, whether the other paper was done in North America or elsewhere will have no bearing. For some research on government, or social systems it would be different. But that implies that "place" is an inherent part of the research itself.
– Buffy
Dec 12 at 18:34
For most fields, whether the other paper was done in North America or elsewhere will have no bearing. For some research on government, or social systems it would be different. But that implies that "place" is an inherent part of the research itself.
– Buffy
Dec 12 at 18:34
add a comment |
4 Answers
4
active
oldest
votes
up vote
9
down vote
accepted
I think in your literature review where you point to the gap in studies that look outside of North America, you could add something like, "Little research has applied this theory/concept/idea outside of the North American context (for an exception, see Smith, 2016).
And then cite it in your references as
Author, A. A. (2016). Title of paper or manuscript. Unpublished manuscript. Date retrieved. URL.
New contributor
That is perfect and reasonable! Thank you for that suggestion! I will be using it!
– Kelly
Dec 12 at 13:29
add a comment |
up vote
12
down vote
You need to cite the paper only if you use it or depend on it in your research in some way. However, if you have a section on "Similar Research" then you should probably mention it there. You don't forfeit anything if your work was independent. For purposes of your degree, your supervisor will decide if you have made a proper contribution. For purposes of publishing, the editors and reviewers will decide on priority. Just because you don't cite it doesn't mean that it isn't known.
Independent research on a topic goes on constantly in the real world.
The worst case for you is that if you don't cite it and someone thinks you have plagiarized. But the real world situation is as it is. You can't change that.
2
You need to cite the paper only if you use it in your research in some way. — I strongly disagree. Ethical scholarship requires acknowledging relevant prior work.
– JeffE
Dec 12 at 16:38
add a comment |
up vote
6
down vote
I'll add another aspect to the main issue that's covered in Buffy's answer. It seems that the working paper is not at all identical to your work. As you say, it is "semi-similar" and focuses on a different region. First, this means that your paper remains original. Second and more importantly, your work and that of your colleague seem complementary. You said you already contacted your colleague without response, but in general, this is a great opportunity for collaboration, for example on a comparative paper. Maybe you'll get a response if you suggest a collaborative project that builds on both of your contributions.
add a comment |
up vote
-1
down vote
New answer
Comments below explain the OP posted their work online first and that their underlying question is about priority, in particular, is priority awarded to the first author(s) to make their work public or the first author(s) to formally publish their peer-reviewed work? My original answer to the original question appears below, and my answer to the aforementioned question is as follows:
Priority is rather contentious. Ultimately, no one can deny that a work publicly available before another takes priority, regardless of whether one work is formally published after peer-review and the other was merely part of the public record. Moreover, no one can deny that authors of the second work had an advantage. Nonetheless, some will argue that being first doesn't matter; being formally published does. But, they still cannot deny the previous statements. Thus, they can only make claims such as "this is the first published, peer-reviewed work that ...," which implicitly acknowledges that the work isn't first. I recommend avoiding such claims altogether and mentioning related work, regardless of whether it is formally published.
Original answer
You open by explaining
...The contribution of my paper is that it's the first non-North American analysis on the subject.
Yet,
There is a working paper...from a doctoral student in another university...who looks outside of North America.
So, your claimed contribution is seemingly a lie: It's [not] the first non-North American analysis on the subject.
(I don't understand how a paper can contribute simply by conducting analysis in a new geographical region; to contribute, you surely need to bring new science. I'll proceed regardless.)
I did not reference their paper in my research, because I don't think it's right that I should forfeit my contribution for an incomplete paper that doesn't seem to be heading to a journal and undergo peer review.
I consider that to be morally and ethically wrong. You should rightly forfeit your claim of first non-North American analysis, because by your own admission, you aren't first.
Keep your comments non-accusatory, the tone is inappropriate. I am first, in that I wrote it first, and it will be published first. Somebody has to be first, otherwise no seminal contributions would ever exist. In my field, analysis in a different region is a major contribution. The other person, never referenced my paper, and did not respond to my email. So if I did something bad, they did something even worse.
– Kelly
Dec 12 at 13:34
@Kelly You aren't first by your own admission: In academia, first is measured on the basis of public record, i.e., results that have been made public, you weren't first to make your results public. (Regarding your contribution, I didn't question it, I merely said I didn't understand it. Thanks for the clarification.) I don't understand how you expect the existing paper to cite your paper, since it pre-dates your paper. I also don't understand how "they did something even worse" (nor your opening sentence).
– user2768
Dec 12 at 14:23
I accepted the answer a few comments up. However, as you are tying to counter productively twist my words, I have to correct your statements so others find value in the context of this page. I am first, I wrote it worst, and posted it online first. The underlying point of my question is, is it who posts their paper online first, or publishes it in a journal first that makes the contribution. Someone can post an unpublished working paper but the statistical method is invalid and thus results unfounded, and thus there is no contribution. I'm confused about it.
– Kelly
Dec 12 at 14:41
@Kelly your question makes no mention that you "posted it online first," I would have given an entirely different answer had that of been mentioned, nor was the "underlying point of [your] question" apparent to me. Priority goes to whomever publishes in the public record first. Some will contend that priority goes to whomever published peer-reviewed work first, but that isn't the first work, that's the first peer-reviewed work. I avoid the use of the term first in my own work; my work is novel, so it is first implicitly. I prefer that to haggling over what precise aspects I was first to do.
– user2768
Dec 12 at 14:50
2
I think there is still merit to make that claim because its sounds like it would be the first peer reviewed published work. I think he can cite the exception in brackets and reference the unpublished paper.
– Jay Ballerit
Dec 13 at 6:20
|
show 1 more comment
Your Answer
StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "415"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);
StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});
function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: true,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: 10,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});
}
});
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2facademia.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f121471%2funpublished-research-similar-to-mine%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
4 Answers
4
active
oldest
votes
4 Answers
4
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
9
down vote
accepted
I think in your literature review where you point to the gap in studies that look outside of North America, you could add something like, "Little research has applied this theory/concept/idea outside of the North American context (for an exception, see Smith, 2016).
And then cite it in your references as
Author, A. A. (2016). Title of paper or manuscript. Unpublished manuscript. Date retrieved. URL.
New contributor
That is perfect and reasonable! Thank you for that suggestion! I will be using it!
– Kelly
Dec 12 at 13:29
add a comment |
up vote
9
down vote
accepted
I think in your literature review where you point to the gap in studies that look outside of North America, you could add something like, "Little research has applied this theory/concept/idea outside of the North American context (for an exception, see Smith, 2016).
And then cite it in your references as
Author, A. A. (2016). Title of paper or manuscript. Unpublished manuscript. Date retrieved. URL.
New contributor
That is perfect and reasonable! Thank you for that suggestion! I will be using it!
– Kelly
Dec 12 at 13:29
add a comment |
up vote
9
down vote
accepted
up vote
9
down vote
accepted
I think in your literature review where you point to the gap in studies that look outside of North America, you could add something like, "Little research has applied this theory/concept/idea outside of the North American context (for an exception, see Smith, 2016).
And then cite it in your references as
Author, A. A. (2016). Title of paper or manuscript. Unpublished manuscript. Date retrieved. URL.
New contributor
I think in your literature review where you point to the gap in studies that look outside of North America, you could add something like, "Little research has applied this theory/concept/idea outside of the North American context (for an exception, see Smith, 2016).
And then cite it in your references as
Author, A. A. (2016). Title of paper or manuscript. Unpublished manuscript. Date retrieved. URL.
New contributor
New contributor
answered Dec 12 at 7:53
Jay Ballerit
2564
2564
New contributor
New contributor
That is perfect and reasonable! Thank you for that suggestion! I will be using it!
– Kelly
Dec 12 at 13:29
add a comment |
That is perfect and reasonable! Thank you for that suggestion! I will be using it!
– Kelly
Dec 12 at 13:29
That is perfect and reasonable! Thank you for that suggestion! I will be using it!
– Kelly
Dec 12 at 13:29
That is perfect and reasonable! Thank you for that suggestion! I will be using it!
– Kelly
Dec 12 at 13:29
add a comment |
up vote
12
down vote
You need to cite the paper only if you use it or depend on it in your research in some way. However, if you have a section on "Similar Research" then you should probably mention it there. You don't forfeit anything if your work was independent. For purposes of your degree, your supervisor will decide if you have made a proper contribution. For purposes of publishing, the editors and reviewers will decide on priority. Just because you don't cite it doesn't mean that it isn't known.
Independent research on a topic goes on constantly in the real world.
The worst case for you is that if you don't cite it and someone thinks you have plagiarized. But the real world situation is as it is. You can't change that.
2
You need to cite the paper only if you use it in your research in some way. — I strongly disagree. Ethical scholarship requires acknowledging relevant prior work.
– JeffE
Dec 12 at 16:38
add a comment |
up vote
12
down vote
You need to cite the paper only if you use it or depend on it in your research in some way. However, if you have a section on "Similar Research" then you should probably mention it there. You don't forfeit anything if your work was independent. For purposes of your degree, your supervisor will decide if you have made a proper contribution. For purposes of publishing, the editors and reviewers will decide on priority. Just because you don't cite it doesn't mean that it isn't known.
Independent research on a topic goes on constantly in the real world.
The worst case for you is that if you don't cite it and someone thinks you have plagiarized. But the real world situation is as it is. You can't change that.
2
You need to cite the paper only if you use it in your research in some way. — I strongly disagree. Ethical scholarship requires acknowledging relevant prior work.
– JeffE
Dec 12 at 16:38
add a comment |
up vote
12
down vote
up vote
12
down vote
You need to cite the paper only if you use it or depend on it in your research in some way. However, if you have a section on "Similar Research" then you should probably mention it there. You don't forfeit anything if your work was independent. For purposes of your degree, your supervisor will decide if you have made a proper contribution. For purposes of publishing, the editors and reviewers will decide on priority. Just because you don't cite it doesn't mean that it isn't known.
Independent research on a topic goes on constantly in the real world.
The worst case for you is that if you don't cite it and someone thinks you have plagiarized. But the real world situation is as it is. You can't change that.
You need to cite the paper only if you use it or depend on it in your research in some way. However, if you have a section on "Similar Research" then you should probably mention it there. You don't forfeit anything if your work was independent. For purposes of your degree, your supervisor will decide if you have made a proper contribution. For purposes of publishing, the editors and reviewers will decide on priority. Just because you don't cite it doesn't mean that it isn't known.
Independent research on a topic goes on constantly in the real world.
The worst case for you is that if you don't cite it and someone thinks you have plagiarized. But the real world situation is as it is. You can't change that.
edited Dec 12 at 18:30
answered Dec 11 at 16:14
Buffy
34.7k7109178
34.7k7109178
2
You need to cite the paper only if you use it in your research in some way. — I strongly disagree. Ethical scholarship requires acknowledging relevant prior work.
– JeffE
Dec 12 at 16:38
add a comment |
2
You need to cite the paper only if you use it in your research in some way. — I strongly disagree. Ethical scholarship requires acknowledging relevant prior work.
– JeffE
Dec 12 at 16:38
2
2
You need to cite the paper only if you use it in your research in some way. — I strongly disagree. Ethical scholarship requires acknowledging relevant prior work.
– JeffE
Dec 12 at 16:38
You need to cite the paper only if you use it in your research in some way. — I strongly disagree. Ethical scholarship requires acknowledging relevant prior work.
– JeffE
Dec 12 at 16:38
add a comment |
up vote
6
down vote
I'll add another aspect to the main issue that's covered in Buffy's answer. It seems that the working paper is not at all identical to your work. As you say, it is "semi-similar" and focuses on a different region. First, this means that your paper remains original. Second and more importantly, your work and that of your colleague seem complementary. You said you already contacted your colleague without response, but in general, this is a great opportunity for collaboration, for example on a comparative paper. Maybe you'll get a response if you suggest a collaborative project that builds on both of your contributions.
add a comment |
up vote
6
down vote
I'll add another aspect to the main issue that's covered in Buffy's answer. It seems that the working paper is not at all identical to your work. As you say, it is "semi-similar" and focuses on a different region. First, this means that your paper remains original. Second and more importantly, your work and that of your colleague seem complementary. You said you already contacted your colleague without response, but in general, this is a great opportunity for collaboration, for example on a comparative paper. Maybe you'll get a response if you suggest a collaborative project that builds on both of your contributions.
add a comment |
up vote
6
down vote
up vote
6
down vote
I'll add another aspect to the main issue that's covered in Buffy's answer. It seems that the working paper is not at all identical to your work. As you say, it is "semi-similar" and focuses on a different region. First, this means that your paper remains original. Second and more importantly, your work and that of your colleague seem complementary. You said you already contacted your colleague without response, but in general, this is a great opportunity for collaboration, for example on a comparative paper. Maybe you'll get a response if you suggest a collaborative project that builds on both of your contributions.
I'll add another aspect to the main issue that's covered in Buffy's answer. It seems that the working paper is not at all identical to your work. As you say, it is "semi-similar" and focuses on a different region. First, this means that your paper remains original. Second and more importantly, your work and that of your colleague seem complementary. You said you already contacted your colleague without response, but in general, this is a great opportunity for collaboration, for example on a comparative paper. Maybe you'll get a response if you suggest a collaborative project that builds on both of your contributions.
edited Dec 11 at 17:02
answered Dec 11 at 16:56
henning
18.2k46290
18.2k46290
add a comment |
add a comment |
up vote
-1
down vote
New answer
Comments below explain the OP posted their work online first and that their underlying question is about priority, in particular, is priority awarded to the first author(s) to make their work public or the first author(s) to formally publish their peer-reviewed work? My original answer to the original question appears below, and my answer to the aforementioned question is as follows:
Priority is rather contentious. Ultimately, no one can deny that a work publicly available before another takes priority, regardless of whether one work is formally published after peer-review and the other was merely part of the public record. Moreover, no one can deny that authors of the second work had an advantage. Nonetheless, some will argue that being first doesn't matter; being formally published does. But, they still cannot deny the previous statements. Thus, they can only make claims such as "this is the first published, peer-reviewed work that ...," which implicitly acknowledges that the work isn't first. I recommend avoiding such claims altogether and mentioning related work, regardless of whether it is formally published.
Original answer
You open by explaining
...The contribution of my paper is that it's the first non-North American analysis on the subject.
Yet,
There is a working paper...from a doctoral student in another university...who looks outside of North America.
So, your claimed contribution is seemingly a lie: It's [not] the first non-North American analysis on the subject.
(I don't understand how a paper can contribute simply by conducting analysis in a new geographical region; to contribute, you surely need to bring new science. I'll proceed regardless.)
I did not reference their paper in my research, because I don't think it's right that I should forfeit my contribution for an incomplete paper that doesn't seem to be heading to a journal and undergo peer review.
I consider that to be morally and ethically wrong. You should rightly forfeit your claim of first non-North American analysis, because by your own admission, you aren't first.
Keep your comments non-accusatory, the tone is inappropriate. I am first, in that I wrote it first, and it will be published first. Somebody has to be first, otherwise no seminal contributions would ever exist. In my field, analysis in a different region is a major contribution. The other person, never referenced my paper, and did not respond to my email. So if I did something bad, they did something even worse.
– Kelly
Dec 12 at 13:34
@Kelly You aren't first by your own admission: In academia, first is measured on the basis of public record, i.e., results that have been made public, you weren't first to make your results public. (Regarding your contribution, I didn't question it, I merely said I didn't understand it. Thanks for the clarification.) I don't understand how you expect the existing paper to cite your paper, since it pre-dates your paper. I also don't understand how "they did something even worse" (nor your opening sentence).
– user2768
Dec 12 at 14:23
I accepted the answer a few comments up. However, as you are tying to counter productively twist my words, I have to correct your statements so others find value in the context of this page. I am first, I wrote it worst, and posted it online first. The underlying point of my question is, is it who posts their paper online first, or publishes it in a journal first that makes the contribution. Someone can post an unpublished working paper but the statistical method is invalid and thus results unfounded, and thus there is no contribution. I'm confused about it.
– Kelly
Dec 12 at 14:41
@Kelly your question makes no mention that you "posted it online first," I would have given an entirely different answer had that of been mentioned, nor was the "underlying point of [your] question" apparent to me. Priority goes to whomever publishes in the public record first. Some will contend that priority goes to whomever published peer-reviewed work first, but that isn't the first work, that's the first peer-reviewed work. I avoid the use of the term first in my own work; my work is novel, so it is first implicitly. I prefer that to haggling over what precise aspects I was first to do.
– user2768
Dec 12 at 14:50
2
I think there is still merit to make that claim because its sounds like it would be the first peer reviewed published work. I think he can cite the exception in brackets and reference the unpublished paper.
– Jay Ballerit
Dec 13 at 6:20
|
show 1 more comment
up vote
-1
down vote
New answer
Comments below explain the OP posted their work online first and that their underlying question is about priority, in particular, is priority awarded to the first author(s) to make their work public or the first author(s) to formally publish their peer-reviewed work? My original answer to the original question appears below, and my answer to the aforementioned question is as follows:
Priority is rather contentious. Ultimately, no one can deny that a work publicly available before another takes priority, regardless of whether one work is formally published after peer-review and the other was merely part of the public record. Moreover, no one can deny that authors of the second work had an advantage. Nonetheless, some will argue that being first doesn't matter; being formally published does. But, they still cannot deny the previous statements. Thus, they can only make claims such as "this is the first published, peer-reviewed work that ...," which implicitly acknowledges that the work isn't first. I recommend avoiding such claims altogether and mentioning related work, regardless of whether it is formally published.
Original answer
You open by explaining
...The contribution of my paper is that it's the first non-North American analysis on the subject.
Yet,
There is a working paper...from a doctoral student in another university...who looks outside of North America.
So, your claimed contribution is seemingly a lie: It's [not] the first non-North American analysis on the subject.
(I don't understand how a paper can contribute simply by conducting analysis in a new geographical region; to contribute, you surely need to bring new science. I'll proceed regardless.)
I did not reference their paper in my research, because I don't think it's right that I should forfeit my contribution for an incomplete paper that doesn't seem to be heading to a journal and undergo peer review.
I consider that to be morally and ethically wrong. You should rightly forfeit your claim of first non-North American analysis, because by your own admission, you aren't first.
Keep your comments non-accusatory, the tone is inappropriate. I am first, in that I wrote it first, and it will be published first. Somebody has to be first, otherwise no seminal contributions would ever exist. In my field, analysis in a different region is a major contribution. The other person, never referenced my paper, and did not respond to my email. So if I did something bad, they did something even worse.
– Kelly
Dec 12 at 13:34
@Kelly You aren't first by your own admission: In academia, first is measured on the basis of public record, i.e., results that have been made public, you weren't first to make your results public. (Regarding your contribution, I didn't question it, I merely said I didn't understand it. Thanks for the clarification.) I don't understand how you expect the existing paper to cite your paper, since it pre-dates your paper. I also don't understand how "they did something even worse" (nor your opening sentence).
– user2768
Dec 12 at 14:23
I accepted the answer a few comments up. However, as you are tying to counter productively twist my words, I have to correct your statements so others find value in the context of this page. I am first, I wrote it worst, and posted it online first. The underlying point of my question is, is it who posts their paper online first, or publishes it in a journal first that makes the contribution. Someone can post an unpublished working paper but the statistical method is invalid and thus results unfounded, and thus there is no contribution. I'm confused about it.
– Kelly
Dec 12 at 14:41
@Kelly your question makes no mention that you "posted it online first," I would have given an entirely different answer had that of been mentioned, nor was the "underlying point of [your] question" apparent to me. Priority goes to whomever publishes in the public record first. Some will contend that priority goes to whomever published peer-reviewed work first, but that isn't the first work, that's the first peer-reviewed work. I avoid the use of the term first in my own work; my work is novel, so it is first implicitly. I prefer that to haggling over what precise aspects I was first to do.
– user2768
Dec 12 at 14:50
2
I think there is still merit to make that claim because its sounds like it would be the first peer reviewed published work. I think he can cite the exception in brackets and reference the unpublished paper.
– Jay Ballerit
Dec 13 at 6:20
|
show 1 more comment
up vote
-1
down vote
up vote
-1
down vote
New answer
Comments below explain the OP posted their work online first and that their underlying question is about priority, in particular, is priority awarded to the first author(s) to make their work public or the first author(s) to formally publish their peer-reviewed work? My original answer to the original question appears below, and my answer to the aforementioned question is as follows:
Priority is rather contentious. Ultimately, no one can deny that a work publicly available before another takes priority, regardless of whether one work is formally published after peer-review and the other was merely part of the public record. Moreover, no one can deny that authors of the second work had an advantage. Nonetheless, some will argue that being first doesn't matter; being formally published does. But, they still cannot deny the previous statements. Thus, they can only make claims such as "this is the first published, peer-reviewed work that ...," which implicitly acknowledges that the work isn't first. I recommend avoiding such claims altogether and mentioning related work, regardless of whether it is formally published.
Original answer
You open by explaining
...The contribution of my paper is that it's the first non-North American analysis on the subject.
Yet,
There is a working paper...from a doctoral student in another university...who looks outside of North America.
So, your claimed contribution is seemingly a lie: It's [not] the first non-North American analysis on the subject.
(I don't understand how a paper can contribute simply by conducting analysis in a new geographical region; to contribute, you surely need to bring new science. I'll proceed regardless.)
I did not reference their paper in my research, because I don't think it's right that I should forfeit my contribution for an incomplete paper that doesn't seem to be heading to a journal and undergo peer review.
I consider that to be morally and ethically wrong. You should rightly forfeit your claim of first non-North American analysis, because by your own admission, you aren't first.
New answer
Comments below explain the OP posted their work online first and that their underlying question is about priority, in particular, is priority awarded to the first author(s) to make their work public or the first author(s) to formally publish their peer-reviewed work? My original answer to the original question appears below, and my answer to the aforementioned question is as follows:
Priority is rather contentious. Ultimately, no one can deny that a work publicly available before another takes priority, regardless of whether one work is formally published after peer-review and the other was merely part of the public record. Moreover, no one can deny that authors of the second work had an advantage. Nonetheless, some will argue that being first doesn't matter; being formally published does. But, they still cannot deny the previous statements. Thus, they can only make claims such as "this is the first published, peer-reviewed work that ...," which implicitly acknowledges that the work isn't first. I recommend avoiding such claims altogether and mentioning related work, regardless of whether it is formally published.
Original answer
You open by explaining
...The contribution of my paper is that it's the first non-North American analysis on the subject.
Yet,
There is a working paper...from a doctoral student in another university...who looks outside of North America.
So, your claimed contribution is seemingly a lie: It's [not] the first non-North American analysis on the subject.
(I don't understand how a paper can contribute simply by conducting analysis in a new geographical region; to contribute, you surely need to bring new science. I'll proceed regardless.)
I did not reference their paper in my research, because I don't think it's right that I should forfeit my contribution for an incomplete paper that doesn't seem to be heading to a journal and undergo peer review.
I consider that to be morally and ethically wrong. You should rightly forfeit your claim of first non-North American analysis, because by your own admission, you aren't first.
edited Dec 12 at 15:16
answered Dec 12 at 8:09
user2768
11.2k22949
11.2k22949
Keep your comments non-accusatory, the tone is inappropriate. I am first, in that I wrote it first, and it will be published first. Somebody has to be first, otherwise no seminal contributions would ever exist. In my field, analysis in a different region is a major contribution. The other person, never referenced my paper, and did not respond to my email. So if I did something bad, they did something even worse.
– Kelly
Dec 12 at 13:34
@Kelly You aren't first by your own admission: In academia, first is measured on the basis of public record, i.e., results that have been made public, you weren't first to make your results public. (Regarding your contribution, I didn't question it, I merely said I didn't understand it. Thanks for the clarification.) I don't understand how you expect the existing paper to cite your paper, since it pre-dates your paper. I also don't understand how "they did something even worse" (nor your opening sentence).
– user2768
Dec 12 at 14:23
I accepted the answer a few comments up. However, as you are tying to counter productively twist my words, I have to correct your statements so others find value in the context of this page. I am first, I wrote it worst, and posted it online first. The underlying point of my question is, is it who posts their paper online first, or publishes it in a journal first that makes the contribution. Someone can post an unpublished working paper but the statistical method is invalid and thus results unfounded, and thus there is no contribution. I'm confused about it.
– Kelly
Dec 12 at 14:41
@Kelly your question makes no mention that you "posted it online first," I would have given an entirely different answer had that of been mentioned, nor was the "underlying point of [your] question" apparent to me. Priority goes to whomever publishes in the public record first. Some will contend that priority goes to whomever published peer-reviewed work first, but that isn't the first work, that's the first peer-reviewed work. I avoid the use of the term first in my own work; my work is novel, so it is first implicitly. I prefer that to haggling over what precise aspects I was first to do.
– user2768
Dec 12 at 14:50
2
I think there is still merit to make that claim because its sounds like it would be the first peer reviewed published work. I think he can cite the exception in brackets and reference the unpublished paper.
– Jay Ballerit
Dec 13 at 6:20
|
show 1 more comment
Keep your comments non-accusatory, the tone is inappropriate. I am first, in that I wrote it first, and it will be published first. Somebody has to be first, otherwise no seminal contributions would ever exist. In my field, analysis in a different region is a major contribution. The other person, never referenced my paper, and did not respond to my email. So if I did something bad, they did something even worse.
– Kelly
Dec 12 at 13:34
@Kelly You aren't first by your own admission: In academia, first is measured on the basis of public record, i.e., results that have been made public, you weren't first to make your results public. (Regarding your contribution, I didn't question it, I merely said I didn't understand it. Thanks for the clarification.) I don't understand how you expect the existing paper to cite your paper, since it pre-dates your paper. I also don't understand how "they did something even worse" (nor your opening sentence).
– user2768
Dec 12 at 14:23
I accepted the answer a few comments up. However, as you are tying to counter productively twist my words, I have to correct your statements so others find value in the context of this page. I am first, I wrote it worst, and posted it online first. The underlying point of my question is, is it who posts their paper online first, or publishes it in a journal first that makes the contribution. Someone can post an unpublished working paper but the statistical method is invalid and thus results unfounded, and thus there is no contribution. I'm confused about it.
– Kelly
Dec 12 at 14:41
@Kelly your question makes no mention that you "posted it online first," I would have given an entirely different answer had that of been mentioned, nor was the "underlying point of [your] question" apparent to me. Priority goes to whomever publishes in the public record first. Some will contend that priority goes to whomever published peer-reviewed work first, but that isn't the first work, that's the first peer-reviewed work. I avoid the use of the term first in my own work; my work is novel, so it is first implicitly. I prefer that to haggling over what precise aspects I was first to do.
– user2768
Dec 12 at 14:50
2
I think there is still merit to make that claim because its sounds like it would be the first peer reviewed published work. I think he can cite the exception in brackets and reference the unpublished paper.
– Jay Ballerit
Dec 13 at 6:20
Keep your comments non-accusatory, the tone is inappropriate. I am first, in that I wrote it first, and it will be published first. Somebody has to be first, otherwise no seminal contributions would ever exist. In my field, analysis in a different region is a major contribution. The other person, never referenced my paper, and did not respond to my email. So if I did something bad, they did something even worse.
– Kelly
Dec 12 at 13:34
Keep your comments non-accusatory, the tone is inappropriate. I am first, in that I wrote it first, and it will be published first. Somebody has to be first, otherwise no seminal contributions would ever exist. In my field, analysis in a different region is a major contribution. The other person, never referenced my paper, and did not respond to my email. So if I did something bad, they did something even worse.
– Kelly
Dec 12 at 13:34
@Kelly You aren't first by your own admission: In academia, first is measured on the basis of public record, i.e., results that have been made public, you weren't first to make your results public. (Regarding your contribution, I didn't question it, I merely said I didn't understand it. Thanks for the clarification.) I don't understand how you expect the existing paper to cite your paper, since it pre-dates your paper. I also don't understand how "they did something even worse" (nor your opening sentence).
– user2768
Dec 12 at 14:23
@Kelly You aren't first by your own admission: In academia, first is measured on the basis of public record, i.e., results that have been made public, you weren't first to make your results public. (Regarding your contribution, I didn't question it, I merely said I didn't understand it. Thanks for the clarification.) I don't understand how you expect the existing paper to cite your paper, since it pre-dates your paper. I also don't understand how "they did something even worse" (nor your opening sentence).
– user2768
Dec 12 at 14:23
I accepted the answer a few comments up. However, as you are tying to counter productively twist my words, I have to correct your statements so others find value in the context of this page. I am first, I wrote it worst, and posted it online first. The underlying point of my question is, is it who posts their paper online first, or publishes it in a journal first that makes the contribution. Someone can post an unpublished working paper but the statistical method is invalid and thus results unfounded, and thus there is no contribution. I'm confused about it.
– Kelly
Dec 12 at 14:41
I accepted the answer a few comments up. However, as you are tying to counter productively twist my words, I have to correct your statements so others find value in the context of this page. I am first, I wrote it worst, and posted it online first. The underlying point of my question is, is it who posts their paper online first, or publishes it in a journal first that makes the contribution. Someone can post an unpublished working paper but the statistical method is invalid and thus results unfounded, and thus there is no contribution. I'm confused about it.
– Kelly
Dec 12 at 14:41
@Kelly your question makes no mention that you "posted it online first," I would have given an entirely different answer had that of been mentioned, nor was the "underlying point of [your] question" apparent to me. Priority goes to whomever publishes in the public record first. Some will contend that priority goes to whomever published peer-reviewed work first, but that isn't the first work, that's the first peer-reviewed work. I avoid the use of the term first in my own work; my work is novel, so it is first implicitly. I prefer that to haggling over what precise aspects I was first to do.
– user2768
Dec 12 at 14:50
@Kelly your question makes no mention that you "posted it online first," I would have given an entirely different answer had that of been mentioned, nor was the "underlying point of [your] question" apparent to me. Priority goes to whomever publishes in the public record first. Some will contend that priority goes to whomever published peer-reviewed work first, but that isn't the first work, that's the first peer-reviewed work. I avoid the use of the term first in my own work; my work is novel, so it is first implicitly. I prefer that to haggling over what precise aspects I was first to do.
– user2768
Dec 12 at 14:50
2
2
I think there is still merit to make that claim because its sounds like it would be the first peer reviewed published work. I think he can cite the exception in brackets and reference the unpublished paper.
– Jay Ballerit
Dec 13 at 6:20
I think there is still merit to make that claim because its sounds like it would be the first peer reviewed published work. I think he can cite the exception in brackets and reference the unpublished paper.
– Jay Ballerit
Dec 13 at 6:20
|
show 1 more comment
Thanks for contributing an answer to Academia Stack Exchange!
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Some of your past answers have not been well-received, and you're in danger of being blocked from answering.
Please pay close attention to the following guidance:
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2facademia.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f121471%2funpublished-research-similar-to-mine%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
10
Surely you should reference that paper in your literature survey (or equivalent). If a reviewer knows of that paper then you may end up worse off... How can yours be the "first" if that other one exists?
– Solar Mike
Dec 11 at 16:13
For most fields, whether the other paper was done in North America or elsewhere will have no bearing. For some research on government, or social systems it would be different. But that implies that "place" is an inherent part of the research itself.
– Buffy
Dec 12 at 18:34