“Famous” Jewish painting “The Talmud” pedigree
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I have a painting I inherited from my grandparents that I have seen reproduced elsewhere by seemingly other artists, with some variations. The scene depicts a number of rabbis/scholars around a table in a Beis Medrash arguing over some text. I'll post an example below.
This has intrigued me for some time. Does anyone know the original source of this painting? Who the original artist was? What the background of this painting is?
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I have a painting I inherited from my grandparents that I have seen reproduced elsewhere by seemingly other artists, with some variations. The scene depicts a number of rabbis/scholars around a table in a Beis Medrash arguing over some text. I'll post an example below.
This has intrigued me for some time. Does anyone know the original source of this painting? Who the original artist was? What the background of this painting is?
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asked Dec 11 at 16:56
Shmuel Brown
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I vote to re-open this post, as it is clearly about a depiction of Judaism, per se, not just of Jews.
– Isaac Moses♦
Dec 11 at 21:22
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@IsaacMoses It's not about Judaism. It's about art. It would be better suited for an Art SE, if it existed. (I don't think it does.)
– ezra
Dec 12 at 18:32
"Who painted it" isn't about Judaism, but I suppose the "background to the painting" is related to Judaism
– robev
Dec 12 at 19:50
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@ezra It's about art about Judaism. Other potential SE sites are irrelevant. Is it reasonable to expect people who know about Judaism to have an advantage at knowing about this painting? Yes.
– Isaac Moses♦
Dec 12 at 20:42
@IsaacMoses No, it's not about Judaism. It's about who painted it, who may or may not have been a Jew. (I'm pretty sure Schleicher was Jewish though.) To give you a better understanding of what I'm saying, asking "What are the rabbis doing in this painting?" would be on-topic, but in this case the OP is asking who originally painted it, so it's decidingly OFF-topic.
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Dec 13 at 4:27
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I have a painting I inherited from my grandparents that I have seen reproduced elsewhere by seemingly other artists, with some variations. The scene depicts a number of rabbis/scholars around a table in a Beis Medrash arguing over some text. I'll post an example below.
This has intrigued me for some time. Does anyone know the original source of this painting? Who the original artist was? What the background of this painting is?
history art
asked Dec 11 at 16:56
Shmuel Brown
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I have a painting I inherited from my grandparents that I have seen reproduced elsewhere by seemingly other artists, with some variations. The scene depicts a number of rabbis/scholars around a table in a Beis Medrash arguing over some text. I'll post an example below.
This has intrigued me for some time. Does anyone know the original source of this painting? Who the original artist was? What the background of this painting is?
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Shmuel Brown
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asked Dec 11 at 16:56
Shmuel Brown
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asked Dec 11 at 16:56
Shmuel Brown
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asked Dec 11 at 16:56
Shmuel Brown
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I vote to re-open this post, as it is clearly about a depiction of Judaism, per se, not just of Jews.
– Isaac Moses♦
Dec 11 at 21:22
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@IsaacMoses It's not about Judaism. It's about art. It would be better suited for an Art SE, if it existed. (I don't think it does.)
– ezra
Dec 12 at 18:32
"Who painted it" isn't about Judaism, but I suppose the "background to the painting" is related to Judaism
– robev
Dec 12 at 19:50
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@ezra It's about art about Judaism. Other potential SE sites are irrelevant. Is it reasonable to expect people who know about Judaism to have an advantage at knowing about this painting? Yes.
– Isaac Moses♦
Dec 12 at 20:42
@IsaacMoses No, it's not about Judaism. It's about who painted it, who may or may not have been a Jew. (I'm pretty sure Schleicher was Jewish though.) To give you a better understanding of what I'm saying, asking "What are the rabbis doing in this painting?" would be on-topic, but in this case the OP is asking who originally painted it, so it's decidingly OFF-topic.
– ezra
Dec 13 at 4:27
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I vote to re-open this post, as it is clearly about a depiction of Judaism, per se, not just of Jews.
– Isaac Moses♦
Dec 11 at 21:22
3
@IsaacMoses It's not about Judaism. It's about art. It would be better suited for an Art SE, if it existed. (I don't think it does.)
– ezra
Dec 12 at 18:32
"Who painted it" isn't about Judaism, but I suppose the "background to the painting" is related to Judaism
– robev
Dec 12 at 19:50
1
@ezra It's about art about Judaism. Other potential SE sites are irrelevant. Is it reasonable to expect people who know about Judaism to have an advantage at knowing about this painting? Yes.
– Isaac Moses♦
Dec 12 at 20:42
@IsaacMoses No, it's not about Judaism. It's about who painted it, who may or may not have been a Jew. (I'm pretty sure Schleicher was Jewish though.) To give you a better understanding of what I'm saying, asking "What are the rabbis doing in this painting?" would be on-topic, but in this case the OP is asking who originally painted it, so it's decidingly OFF-topic.
– ezra
Dec 13 at 4:27
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I vote to re-open this post, as it is clearly about a depiction of Judaism, per se, not just of Jews.
– Isaac Moses♦
Dec 11 at 21:22
I vote to re-open this post, as it is clearly about a depiction of Judaism, per se, not just of Jews.
– Isaac Moses♦
Dec 11 at 21:22
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@IsaacMoses It's not about Judaism. It's about art. It would be better suited for an Art SE, if it existed. (I don't think it does.)
– ezra
Dec 12 at 18:32
@IsaacMoses It's not about Judaism. It's about art. It would be better suited for an Art SE, if it existed. (I don't think it does.)
– ezra
Dec 12 at 18:32
"Who painted it" isn't about Judaism, but I suppose the "background to the painting" is related to Judaism
– robev
Dec 12 at 19:50
"Who painted it" isn't about Judaism, but I suppose the "background to the painting" is related to Judaism
– robev
Dec 12 at 19:50
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@ezra It's about art about Judaism. Other potential SE sites are irrelevant. Is it reasonable to expect people who know about Judaism to have an advantage at knowing about this painting? Yes.
– Isaac Moses♦
Dec 12 at 20:42
@ezra It's about art about Judaism. Other potential SE sites are irrelevant. Is it reasonable to expect people who know about Judaism to have an advantage at knowing about this painting? Yes.
– Isaac Moses♦
Dec 12 at 20:42
@IsaacMoses No, it's not about Judaism. It's about who painted it, who may or may not have been a Jew. (I'm pretty sure Schleicher was Jewish though.) To give you a better understanding of what I'm saying, asking "What are the rabbis doing in this painting?" would be on-topic, but in this case the OP is asking who originally painted it, so it's decidingly OFF-topic.
– ezra
Dec 13 at 4:27
@IsaacMoses No, it's not about Judaism. It's about who painted it, who may or may not have been a Jew. (I'm pretty sure Schleicher was Jewish though.) To give you a better understanding of what I'm saying, asking "What are the rabbis doing in this painting?" would be on-topic, but in this case the OP is asking who originally painted it, so it's decidingly OFF-topic.
– ezra
Dec 13 at 4:27
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The painting is called Eine Streitfrage aus dem Talmud (A Talmudic Dispute) by Carl Schleicher. It was painted sometime during the 19th Century in Germany. Here are some other works by him. I could not find much about him on English webpages, but here is a Wikipedia article in Spanish.
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Thank you Ezra. I'm wondering if that rendering is the original piece or a reproduction. I've edited my question to show two variants of the same theme. My question is whose is the original?
– Shmuel Brown
Dec 11 at 17:09
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@ShmuelBrown [You can clearly see that the second is from a later period...]
– Kazi bácsi
Dec 12 at 19:03
@dr.shmuel I wasn't asking specifically between those two variants, it was for illustrative purposes (see what I did there?). There are numerous variants of that scene - of differing qualities/styles - and I want to know where it originated.
– Shmuel Brown
Dec 13 at 3:36
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The painting is called Eine Streitfrage aus dem Talmud (A Talmudic Dispute) by Carl Schleicher. It was painted sometime during the 19th Century in Germany. Here are some other works by him. I could not find much about him on English webpages, but here is a Wikipedia article in Spanish.
answered Dec 11 at 17:07
ezra
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Thank you Ezra. I'm wondering if that rendering is the original piece or a reproduction. I've edited my question to show two variants of the same theme. My question is whose is the original?
– Shmuel Brown
Dec 11 at 17:09
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@ShmuelBrown [You can clearly see that the second is from a later period...]
– Kazi bácsi
Dec 12 at 19:03
@dr.shmuel I wasn't asking specifically between those two variants, it was for illustrative purposes (see what I did there?). There are numerous variants of that scene - of differing qualities/styles - and I want to know where it originated.
– Shmuel Brown
Dec 13 at 3:36
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The painting is called Eine Streitfrage aus dem Talmud (A Talmudic Dispute) by Carl Schleicher. It was painted sometime during the 19th Century in Germany. Here are some other works by him. I could not find much about him on English webpages, but here is a Wikipedia article in Spanish.
answered Dec 11 at 17:07
ezra
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Thank you Ezra. I'm wondering if that rendering is the original piece or a reproduction. I've edited my question to show two variants of the same theme. My question is whose is the original?
– Shmuel Brown
Dec 11 at 17:09
1
@ShmuelBrown [You can clearly see that the second is from a later period...]
– Kazi bácsi
Dec 12 at 19:03
@dr.shmuel I wasn't asking specifically between those two variants, it was for illustrative purposes (see what I did there?). There are numerous variants of that scene - of differing qualities/styles - and I want to know where it originated.
– Shmuel Brown
Dec 13 at 3:36
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The painting is called Eine Streitfrage aus dem Talmud (A Talmudic Dispute) by Carl Schleicher. It was painted sometime during the 19th Century in Germany. Here are some other works by him. I could not find much about him on English webpages, but here is a Wikipedia article in Spanish.
answered Dec 11 at 17:07
ezra
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The painting is called Eine Streitfrage aus dem Talmud (A Talmudic Dispute) by Carl Schleicher. It was painted sometime during the 19th Century in Germany. Here are some other works by him. I could not find much about him on English webpages, but here is a Wikipedia article in Spanish.
answered Dec 11 at 17:07
ezra
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answered Dec 11 at 17:07
ezra
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answered Dec 11 at 17:07
ezra
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answered Dec 11 at 17:07
ezra
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Thank you Ezra. I'm wondering if that rendering is the original piece or a reproduction. I've edited my question to show two variants of the same theme. My question is whose is the original?
– Shmuel Brown
Dec 11 at 17:09
1
@ShmuelBrown [You can clearly see that the second is from a later period...]
– Kazi bácsi
Dec 12 at 19:03
@dr.shmuel I wasn't asking specifically between those two variants, it was for illustrative purposes (see what I did there?). There are numerous variants of that scene - of differing qualities/styles - and I want to know where it originated.
– Shmuel Brown
Dec 13 at 3:36
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Thank you Ezra. I'm wondering if that rendering is the original piece or a reproduction. I've edited my question to show two variants of the same theme. My question is whose is the original?
– Shmuel Brown
Dec 11 at 17:09
1
@ShmuelBrown [You can clearly see that the second is from a later period...]
– Kazi bácsi
Dec 12 at 19:03
@dr.shmuel I wasn't asking specifically between those two variants, it was for illustrative purposes (see what I did there?). There are numerous variants of that scene - of differing qualities/styles - and I want to know where it originated.
– Shmuel Brown
Dec 13 at 3:36
1
1
Thank you Ezra. I'm wondering if that rendering is the original piece or a reproduction. I've edited my question to show two variants of the same theme. My question is whose is the original?
– Shmuel Brown
Dec 11 at 17:09
Thank you Ezra. I'm wondering if that rendering is the original piece or a reproduction. I've edited my question to show two variants of the same theme. My question is whose is the original?
– Shmuel Brown
Dec 11 at 17:09
1
1
@ShmuelBrown [You can clearly see that the second is from a later period...]
– Kazi bácsi
Dec 12 at 19:03
@ShmuelBrown [You can clearly see that the second is from a later period...]
– Kazi bácsi
Dec 12 at 19:03
@dr.shmuel I wasn't asking specifically between those two variants, it was for illustrative purposes (see what I did there?). There are numerous variants of that scene - of differing qualities/styles - and I want to know where it originated.
– Shmuel Brown
Dec 13 at 3:36
@dr.shmuel I wasn't asking specifically between those two variants, it was for illustrative purposes (see what I did there?). There are numerous variants of that scene - of differing qualities/styles - and I want to know where it originated.
– Shmuel Brown
Dec 13 at 3:36
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I vote to re-open this post, as it is clearly about a depiction of Judaism, per se, not just of Jews.
– Isaac Moses♦
Dec 11 at 21:22
3
@IsaacMoses It's not about Judaism. It's about art. It would be better suited for an Art SE, if it existed. (I don't think it does.)
– ezra
Dec 12 at 18:32
"Who painted it" isn't about Judaism, but I suppose the "background to the painting" is related to Judaism
– robev
Dec 12 at 19:50
1
@ezra It's about art about Judaism. Other potential SE sites are irrelevant. Is it reasonable to expect people who know about Judaism to have an advantage at knowing about this painting? Yes.
– Isaac Moses♦
Dec 12 at 20:42
@IsaacMoses No, it's not about Judaism. It's about who painted it, who may or may not have been a Jew. (I'm pretty sure Schleicher was Jewish though.) To give you a better understanding of what I'm saying, asking "What are the rabbis doing in this painting?" would be on-topic, but in this case the OP is asking who originally painted it, so it's decidingly OFF-topic.
– ezra
Dec 13 at 4:27