Can my ISP see what I'm downloading off my second router?












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I have a second router(one I purchased from best buy) attached to the ISP's default router (one they provided)



Can the ISP see what I download off of the second router? Or can they only directly see what goes through their router?










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    It entirely depends if the download link is secured, if it's not secured, then all insecure traffic can be tracked by your ISP.
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I have a second router(one I purchased from best buy) attached to the ISP's default router (one they provided)



Can the ISP see what I download off of the second router? Or can they only directly see what goes through their router?










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    It entirely depends if the download link is secured, if it's not secured, then all insecure traffic can be tracked by your ISP.
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I have a second router(one I purchased from best buy) attached to the ISP's default router (one they provided)



Can the ISP see what I download off of the second router? Or can they only directly see what goes through their router?










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I have a second router(one I purchased from best buy) attached to the ISP's default router (one they provided)



Can the ISP see what I download off of the second router? Or can they only directly see what goes through their router?







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    It entirely depends if the download link is secured, if it's not secured, then all insecure traffic can be tracked by your ISP.
    – Ramhound
    Dec 3 at 18:00














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    It entirely depends if the download link is secured, if it's not secured, then all insecure traffic can be tracked by your ISP.
    – Ramhound
    Dec 3 at 18:00








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It entirely depends if the download link is secured, if it's not secured, then all insecure traffic can be tracked by your ISP.
– Ramhound
Dec 3 at 18:00




It entirely depends if the download link is secured, if it's not secured, then all insecure traffic can be tracked by your ISP.
– Ramhound
Dec 3 at 18:00










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I am assuming all your home devices are connected to the Best Buy router you purchased. Any files/data/streams/websites accessed from the internet will flow to and from the internet, to the ISP router, to your router, to your device. This means the ISP can potentially see everything you do on the internet. However, this does not mean they can, or even try to.






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  • Thanks everyone. I was just curious because I switched providers and on my old provider I used the second router to download torrents with, and never had a problem. But with the new ISP I got nabbed with a copyright alert real quick
    – Marie Adele
    Dec 3 at 18:58





















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They can see where you connect, unless you route through a VPN - in which case all traffic would appear to route only to the VPN.



Whether they can see what you do as opposed to where you do it is dependant on the connection being secure [HTTPS]. At the least, they can still see how much data is transmitted from which address.



The added router is not any additional layer of security, it is merely another node on the route.






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    There are three different levels of information that an ISP might know (for data passing through their router):




    1. The server address that you are retrieving information from. For
      example, 172.217.15.78 is one of the server addresses that serves
      google.com. A server address can be associated with multiple
      websites or services (but not always, especially for large
      services). Typically, unless you use a VPN, an ISP will have access
      to this information.


    2. The domain name you are requesting. For
      example, google.com If you use the ISP's DNS (e.g., a phone book for
      domain names -> addresses), then the ISP will have that information.
      If you use a service like 1.1.1.1 as a DNS, then the ISP will
      not have that information. Mind you, it may be easy to associate the
      address with the domain.


    3. The actual data you transmit. If you are
      connected using HTTPS and have not ignored any security warnings
      in your browser, you can be relatively confident that the ISP does
      not have access to this information.



    If your question is: will my local data (e.g., data between computers are your home) be seen by the ISP then the answer is (probably) no.






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      I am assuming all your home devices are connected to the Best Buy router you purchased. Any files/data/streams/websites accessed from the internet will flow to and from the internet, to the ISP router, to your router, to your device. This means the ISP can potentially see everything you do on the internet. However, this does not mean they can, or even try to.






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      • Thanks everyone. I was just curious because I switched providers and on my old provider I used the second router to download torrents with, and never had a problem. But with the new ISP I got nabbed with a copyright alert real quick
        – Marie Adele
        Dec 3 at 18:58


















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      I am assuming all your home devices are connected to the Best Buy router you purchased. Any files/data/streams/websites accessed from the internet will flow to and from the internet, to the ISP router, to your router, to your device. This means the ISP can potentially see everything you do on the internet. However, this does not mean they can, or even try to.






      share|improve this answer





















      • Thanks everyone. I was just curious because I switched providers and on my old provider I used the second router to download torrents with, and never had a problem. But with the new ISP I got nabbed with a copyright alert real quick
        – Marie Adele
        Dec 3 at 18:58
















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      I am assuming all your home devices are connected to the Best Buy router you purchased. Any files/data/streams/websites accessed from the internet will flow to and from the internet, to the ISP router, to your router, to your device. This means the ISP can potentially see everything you do on the internet. However, this does not mean they can, or even try to.






      share|improve this answer












      I am assuming all your home devices are connected to the Best Buy router you purchased. Any files/data/streams/websites accessed from the internet will flow to and from the internet, to the ISP router, to your router, to your device. This means the ISP can potentially see everything you do on the internet. However, this does not mean they can, or even try to.







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      • Thanks everyone. I was just curious because I switched providers and on my old provider I used the second router to download torrents with, and never had a problem. But with the new ISP I got nabbed with a copyright alert real quick
        – Marie Adele
        Dec 3 at 18:58




















      • Thanks everyone. I was just curious because I switched providers and on my old provider I used the second router to download torrents with, and never had a problem. But with the new ISP I got nabbed with a copyright alert real quick
        – Marie Adele
        Dec 3 at 18:58


















      Thanks everyone. I was just curious because I switched providers and on my old provider I used the second router to download torrents with, and never had a problem. But with the new ISP I got nabbed with a copyright alert real quick
      – Marie Adele
      Dec 3 at 18:58






      Thanks everyone. I was just curious because I switched providers and on my old provider I used the second router to download torrents with, and never had a problem. But with the new ISP I got nabbed with a copyright alert real quick
      – Marie Adele
      Dec 3 at 18:58















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      They can see where you connect, unless you route through a VPN - in which case all traffic would appear to route only to the VPN.



      Whether they can see what you do as opposed to where you do it is dependant on the connection being secure [HTTPS]. At the least, they can still see how much data is transmitted from which address.



      The added router is not any additional layer of security, it is merely another node on the route.






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        They can see where you connect, unless you route through a VPN - in which case all traffic would appear to route only to the VPN.



        Whether they can see what you do as opposed to where you do it is dependant on the connection being secure [HTTPS]. At the least, they can still see how much data is transmitted from which address.



        The added router is not any additional layer of security, it is merely another node on the route.






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          They can see where you connect, unless you route through a VPN - in which case all traffic would appear to route only to the VPN.



          Whether they can see what you do as opposed to where you do it is dependant on the connection being secure [HTTPS]. At the least, they can still see how much data is transmitted from which address.



          The added router is not any additional layer of security, it is merely another node on the route.






          share|improve this answer












          They can see where you connect, unless you route through a VPN - in which case all traffic would appear to route only to the VPN.



          Whether they can see what you do as opposed to where you do it is dependant on the connection being secure [HTTPS]. At the least, they can still see how much data is transmitted from which address.



          The added router is not any additional layer of security, it is merely another node on the route.







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              There are three different levels of information that an ISP might know (for data passing through their router):




              1. The server address that you are retrieving information from. For
                example, 172.217.15.78 is one of the server addresses that serves
                google.com. A server address can be associated with multiple
                websites or services (but not always, especially for large
                services). Typically, unless you use a VPN, an ISP will have access
                to this information.


              2. The domain name you are requesting. For
                example, google.com If you use the ISP's DNS (e.g., a phone book for
                domain names -> addresses), then the ISP will have that information.
                If you use a service like 1.1.1.1 as a DNS, then the ISP will
                not have that information. Mind you, it may be easy to associate the
                address with the domain.


              3. The actual data you transmit. If you are
                connected using HTTPS and have not ignored any security warnings
                in your browser, you can be relatively confident that the ISP does
                not have access to this information.



              If your question is: will my local data (e.g., data between computers are your home) be seen by the ISP then the answer is (probably) no.






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                There are three different levels of information that an ISP might know (for data passing through their router):




                1. The server address that you are retrieving information from. For
                  example, 172.217.15.78 is one of the server addresses that serves
                  google.com. A server address can be associated with multiple
                  websites or services (but not always, especially for large
                  services). Typically, unless you use a VPN, an ISP will have access
                  to this information.


                2. The domain name you are requesting. For
                  example, google.com If you use the ISP's DNS (e.g., a phone book for
                  domain names -> addresses), then the ISP will have that information.
                  If you use a service like 1.1.1.1 as a DNS, then the ISP will
                  not have that information. Mind you, it may be easy to associate the
                  address with the domain.


                3. The actual data you transmit. If you are
                  connected using HTTPS and have not ignored any security warnings
                  in your browser, you can be relatively confident that the ISP does
                  not have access to this information.



                If your question is: will my local data (e.g., data between computers are your home) be seen by the ISP then the answer is (probably) no.






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                  There are three different levels of information that an ISP might know (for data passing through their router):




                  1. The server address that you are retrieving information from. For
                    example, 172.217.15.78 is one of the server addresses that serves
                    google.com. A server address can be associated with multiple
                    websites or services (but not always, especially for large
                    services). Typically, unless you use a VPN, an ISP will have access
                    to this information.


                  2. The domain name you are requesting. For
                    example, google.com If you use the ISP's DNS (e.g., a phone book for
                    domain names -> addresses), then the ISP will have that information.
                    If you use a service like 1.1.1.1 as a DNS, then the ISP will
                    not have that information. Mind you, it may be easy to associate the
                    address with the domain.


                  3. The actual data you transmit. If you are
                    connected using HTTPS and have not ignored any security warnings
                    in your browser, you can be relatively confident that the ISP does
                    not have access to this information.



                  If your question is: will my local data (e.g., data between computers are your home) be seen by the ISP then the answer is (probably) no.






                  share|improve this answer












                  There are three different levels of information that an ISP might know (for data passing through their router):




                  1. The server address that you are retrieving information from. For
                    example, 172.217.15.78 is one of the server addresses that serves
                    google.com. A server address can be associated with multiple
                    websites or services (but not always, especially for large
                    services). Typically, unless you use a VPN, an ISP will have access
                    to this information.


                  2. The domain name you are requesting. For
                    example, google.com If you use the ISP's DNS (e.g., a phone book for
                    domain names -> addresses), then the ISP will have that information.
                    If you use a service like 1.1.1.1 as a DNS, then the ISP will
                    not have that information. Mind you, it may be easy to associate the
                    address with the domain.


                  3. The actual data you transmit. If you are
                    connected using HTTPS and have not ignored any security warnings
                    in your browser, you can be relatively confident that the ISP does
                    not have access to this information.



                  If your question is: will my local data (e.g., data between computers are your home) be seen by the ISP then the answer is (probably) no.







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