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Im looking to connect multiple servers together so they can all get the same public IP address, but is this possible with VLAN? Or only with VPN? If public subnet IP address under VLAN is possible also that is good too, for example: xx.xx.xx.1, xx.xx.xx.2, xx.xx.xx.3 something like this. Thanks for the answer.
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Im looking to connect multiple servers together so they can all get the same public IP address, but is this possible with VLAN? Or only with VPN? If public subnet IP address under VLAN is possible also that is good too, for example: xx.xx.xx.1, xx.xx.xx.2, xx.xx.xx.3 something like this. Thanks for the answer.
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they can all get the same public IP address Not VLAN, not VPN. NAT, proxy, another front-end.
– Akina
Nov 15 at 18:39
I know proxy can do it but no idea how to get system wide proxy working, also with VPN you can have the same public IP. Can you elaborate a little bit more please? Thanks. :)
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 18:52
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@Xalyy you might get better help if you provide a more specific question - your question, as asked, borders on non-sensical, and answers, like mine below, can only address the generalities. Relevant information would include OS's involved, use case, locations of the systems and models, locations and connectivity of routers. Also if you are talking about 1 IP, or a block of iP's.
– davidgo
Nov 15 at 19:06
Well currently im using linux but I can get Windows too if it would required for this. The servers are in the same datacenters so its 1 provider. And the VLAN is Hetzners vSwitch. For the rest I explained that in the comments below.
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 20:11
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Im looking to connect multiple servers together so they can all get the same public IP address, but is this possible with VLAN? Or only with VPN? If public subnet IP address under VLAN is possible also that is good too, for example: xx.xx.xx.1, xx.xx.xx.2, xx.xx.xx.3 something like this. Thanks for the answer.
vpn vlan
asked Nov 15 at 18:34
Xalyy
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Im looking to connect multiple servers together so they can all get the same public IP address, but is this possible with VLAN? Or only with VPN? If public subnet IP address under VLAN is possible also that is good too, for example: xx.xx.xx.1, xx.xx.xx.2, xx.xx.xx.3 something like this. Thanks for the answer.
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they can all get the same public IP address Not VLAN, not VPN. NAT, proxy, another front-end.
– Akina
Nov 15 at 18:39
I know proxy can do it but no idea how to get system wide proxy working, also with VPN you can have the same public IP. Can you elaborate a little bit more please? Thanks. :)
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 18:52
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@Xalyy you might get better help if you provide a more specific question - your question, as asked, borders on non-sensical, and answers, like mine below, can only address the generalities. Relevant information would include OS's involved, use case, locations of the systems and models, locations and connectivity of routers. Also if you are talking about 1 IP, or a block of iP's.
– davidgo
Nov 15 at 19:06
Well currently im using linux but I can get Windows too if it would required for this. The servers are in the same datacenters so its 1 provider. And the VLAN is Hetzners vSwitch. For the rest I explained that in the comments below.
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 20:11
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they can all get the same public IP address Not VLAN, not VPN. NAT, proxy, another front-end.
– Akina
Nov 15 at 18:39
I know proxy can do it but no idea how to get system wide proxy working, also with VPN you can have the same public IP. Can you elaborate a little bit more please? Thanks. :)
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 18:52
2
@Xalyy you might get better help if you provide a more specific question - your question, as asked, borders on non-sensical, and answers, like mine below, can only address the generalities. Relevant information would include OS's involved, use case, locations of the systems and models, locations and connectivity of routers. Also if you are talking about 1 IP, or a block of iP's.
– davidgo
Nov 15 at 19:06
Well currently im using linux but I can get Windows too if it would required for this. The servers are in the same datacenters so its 1 provider. And the VLAN is Hetzners vSwitch. For the rest I explained that in the comments below.
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 20:11
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they can all get the same public IP address Not VLAN, not VPN. NAT, proxy, another front-end.
– Akina
Nov 15 at 18:39
they can all get the same public IP address Not VLAN, not VPN. NAT, proxy, another front-end.
– Akina
Nov 15 at 18:39
I know proxy can do it but no idea how to get system wide proxy working, also with VPN you can have the same public IP. Can you elaborate a little bit more please? Thanks. :)
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 18:52
I know proxy can do it but no idea how to get system wide proxy working, also with VPN you can have the same public IP. Can you elaborate a little bit more please? Thanks. :)
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 18:52
2
2
@Xalyy you might get better help if you provide a more specific question - your question, as asked, borders on non-sensical, and answers, like mine below, can only address the generalities. Relevant information would include OS's involved, use case, locations of the systems and models, locations and connectivity of routers. Also if you are talking about 1 IP, or a block of iP's.
– davidgo
Nov 15 at 19:06
@Xalyy you might get better help if you provide a more specific question - your question, as asked, borders on non-sensical, and answers, like mine below, can only address the generalities. Relevant information would include OS's involved, use case, locations of the systems and models, locations and connectivity of routers. Also if you are talking about 1 IP, or a block of iP's.
– davidgo
Nov 15 at 19:06
Well currently im using linux but I can get Windows too if it would required for this. The servers are in the same datacenters so its 1 provider. And the VLAN is Hetzners vSwitch. For the rest I explained that in the comments below.
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 20:11
Well currently im using linux but I can get Windows too if it would required for this. The servers are in the same datacenters so its 1 provider. And the VLAN is Hetzners vSwitch. For the rest I explained that in the comments below.
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 20:11
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Your question is unclear, so I'll address the various components.
In most cases (and the edge cases won't apply to you, they apply where you have exceptional connectivity and are multicasting, eg Googles nameservers and using technologies you most likely don't have access too - like powerful BGP routers with upstreams who you talk BGP to), only 1 device can legitimately have a public address. If you want multiple devices to appear to share the same single public IP address, then you would typically put them behind a router, give the router that public IP address and translate from the internal IP addresses of the devices behind it to the external devices using NAT and/or port forwarding.
VLANs don't directly help you because they are IP address agnostic. They carve out broadcast domains/networks from a large flat network. IE if you have, for example, 3 groups of computers on a LAN that you want to be able to communicate directly with each other, but not between groups, a VLAN can divide the traffic. A VLAN won't help you with your stated goal, but can help organise your network.
VPNs allow you to encrypt data between 2 points, and make your connection appear to come from somewhere else. If the devices all connect to the same location/switch, you don't want a VPN. If your computers are in multiple places, you can use a VPN to force the computers to all go through the same router - which you would want to do if you are wanting all traffic to appear from 1 address. A VPN itself though does not share the public IP address, that would still be down to the router doing NAT.
A proxy is an alternative way of asking a single computer (which uses the desired IP address) to get content on behalf of other computers. Proxy servers are protocol specific (mainly used for http and https requests). There is no single way to do proxying, so the solution depends on your OS and what you are trying to do. SQUID is a well known piece of software that can do powerful proxying. SOCKS is another lightweight protocol which will allow you to do some proxying (and is more generic then SQUID).
answered Nov 15 at 19:04
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Basically I use a service that use IP binding and I can only bind 1 IP, and I want to workaround this with a something so multiple server will have the same public IP that the service is binded to. They allow subnet IP's so its not that the service is limited to 1 server they just dont provide it that way. For proxies I would need socks5 protocol.
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 20:04
So sounds like VPN would be the most suitable, but the testing that I did so far is that VPN was really really slower compared to a proxy server, which had basically direct connection speeds. For example I thought proxifier would be good but that doesnt support stuff like Virtualbox and etc. So I need a different solution. Looks like so far I have to stick to a VPN server.
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 20:08
No offense, but you appear to need expert help (I assume its business related as you mention servers in a DC). Most of what you say makes no sense (ie they allow Subnet IP's) - do you mean they allow a subnet - which implies multiple IP's in which case thats what you should be using? Also "the VLAN is Hetzners vSwitch" is nonsensical as it confused a technology with an implementation. If all machines are connected to the same switch a VPN is not a sensible solution.
– davidgo
Nov 15 at 21:22
Generalising somewhat, the information you have about VPNs being slower then a proxy server is false, or at least not necessarily true. The only heavy lifting involved in a VPN is encryption, and that can often by handled by hardware now. A VPN also has the advantage of being able to use its own protocol which can make it faster and more efficient then a proxy. A proxy may also need to deal with double the encryption (eg decrypt and re-encrypt https) as well as mangling content rather then just encapsulating it which can make it slower.
– davidgo
Nov 15 at 21:25
Im sorry but im not really an expert in these things. In short I just need multiple servers to have the same IP, thats the main focus. I started this topic with VLAN because I thought its possible to do something like this with it but guess not. So this is the only thing I need it doesnt matter if its with VPN or proxy or this VLAN but this VLAN doesnt seem like its meant for this. Guess there are tutorials how to setup a VPN to get the encryption handled by hardware or even turned it off? Or what do you suggest? Thanks.
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 21:30
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Your question is unclear, so I'll address the various components.
In most cases (and the edge cases won't apply to you, they apply where you have exceptional connectivity and are multicasting, eg Googles nameservers and using technologies you most likely don't have access too - like powerful BGP routers with upstreams who you talk BGP to), only 1 device can legitimately have a public address. If you want multiple devices to appear to share the same single public IP address, then you would typically put them behind a router, give the router that public IP address and translate from the internal IP addresses of the devices behind it to the external devices using NAT and/or port forwarding.
VLANs don't directly help you because they are IP address agnostic. They carve out broadcast domains/networks from a large flat network. IE if you have, for example, 3 groups of computers on a LAN that you want to be able to communicate directly with each other, but not between groups, a VLAN can divide the traffic. A VLAN won't help you with your stated goal, but can help organise your network.
VPNs allow you to encrypt data between 2 points, and make your connection appear to come from somewhere else. If the devices all connect to the same location/switch, you don't want a VPN. If your computers are in multiple places, you can use a VPN to force the computers to all go through the same router - which you would want to do if you are wanting all traffic to appear from 1 address. A VPN itself though does not share the public IP address, that would still be down to the router doing NAT.
A proxy is an alternative way of asking a single computer (which uses the desired IP address) to get content on behalf of other computers. Proxy servers are protocol specific (mainly used for http and https requests). There is no single way to do proxying, so the solution depends on your OS and what you are trying to do. SQUID is a well known piece of software that can do powerful proxying. SOCKS is another lightweight protocol which will allow you to do some proxying (and is more generic then SQUID).
answered Nov 15 at 19:04
davidgo
41.4k74985
Basically I use a service that use IP binding and I can only bind 1 IP, and I want to workaround this with a something so multiple server will have the same public IP that the service is binded to. They allow subnet IP's so its not that the service is limited to 1 server they just dont provide it that way. For proxies I would need socks5 protocol.
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 20:04
So sounds like VPN would be the most suitable, but the testing that I did so far is that VPN was really really slower compared to a proxy server, which had basically direct connection speeds. For example I thought proxifier would be good but that doesnt support stuff like Virtualbox and etc. So I need a different solution. Looks like so far I have to stick to a VPN server.
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 20:08
No offense, but you appear to need expert help (I assume its business related as you mention servers in a DC). Most of what you say makes no sense (ie they allow Subnet IP's) - do you mean they allow a subnet - which implies multiple IP's in which case thats what you should be using? Also "the VLAN is Hetzners vSwitch" is nonsensical as it confused a technology with an implementation. If all machines are connected to the same switch a VPN is not a sensible solution.
– davidgo
Nov 15 at 21:22
Generalising somewhat, the information you have about VPNs being slower then a proxy server is false, or at least not necessarily true. The only heavy lifting involved in a VPN is encryption, and that can often by handled by hardware now. A VPN also has the advantage of being able to use its own protocol which can make it faster and more efficient then a proxy. A proxy may also need to deal with double the encryption (eg decrypt and re-encrypt https) as well as mangling content rather then just encapsulating it which can make it slower.
– davidgo
Nov 15 at 21:25
Im sorry but im not really an expert in these things. In short I just need multiple servers to have the same IP, thats the main focus. I started this topic with VLAN because I thought its possible to do something like this with it but guess not. So this is the only thing I need it doesnt matter if its with VPN or proxy or this VLAN but this VLAN doesnt seem like its meant for this. Guess there are tutorials how to setup a VPN to get the encryption handled by hardware or even turned it off? Or what do you suggest? Thanks.
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 21:30
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Your question is unclear, so I'll address the various components.
In most cases (and the edge cases won't apply to you, they apply where you have exceptional connectivity and are multicasting, eg Googles nameservers and using technologies you most likely don't have access too - like powerful BGP routers with upstreams who you talk BGP to), only 1 device can legitimately have a public address. If you want multiple devices to appear to share the same single public IP address, then you would typically put them behind a router, give the router that public IP address and translate from the internal IP addresses of the devices behind it to the external devices using NAT and/or port forwarding.
VLANs don't directly help you because they are IP address agnostic. They carve out broadcast domains/networks from a large flat network. IE if you have, for example, 3 groups of computers on a LAN that you want to be able to communicate directly with each other, but not between groups, a VLAN can divide the traffic. A VLAN won't help you with your stated goal, but can help organise your network.
VPNs allow you to encrypt data between 2 points, and make your connection appear to come from somewhere else. If the devices all connect to the same location/switch, you don't want a VPN. If your computers are in multiple places, you can use a VPN to force the computers to all go through the same router - which you would want to do if you are wanting all traffic to appear from 1 address. A VPN itself though does not share the public IP address, that would still be down to the router doing NAT.
A proxy is an alternative way of asking a single computer (which uses the desired IP address) to get content on behalf of other computers. Proxy servers are protocol specific (mainly used for http and https requests). There is no single way to do proxying, so the solution depends on your OS and what you are trying to do. SQUID is a well known piece of software that can do powerful proxying. SOCKS is another lightweight protocol which will allow you to do some proxying (and is more generic then SQUID).
answered Nov 15 at 19:04
davidgo
41.4k74985
Basically I use a service that use IP binding and I can only bind 1 IP, and I want to workaround this with a something so multiple server will have the same public IP that the service is binded to. They allow subnet IP's so its not that the service is limited to 1 server they just dont provide it that way. For proxies I would need socks5 protocol.
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 20:04
So sounds like VPN would be the most suitable, but the testing that I did so far is that VPN was really really slower compared to a proxy server, which had basically direct connection speeds. For example I thought proxifier would be good but that doesnt support stuff like Virtualbox and etc. So I need a different solution. Looks like so far I have to stick to a VPN server.
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 20:08
No offense, but you appear to need expert help (I assume its business related as you mention servers in a DC). Most of what you say makes no sense (ie they allow Subnet IP's) - do you mean they allow a subnet - which implies multiple IP's in which case thats what you should be using? Also "the VLAN is Hetzners vSwitch" is nonsensical as it confused a technology with an implementation. If all machines are connected to the same switch a VPN is not a sensible solution.
– davidgo
Nov 15 at 21:22
Generalising somewhat, the information you have about VPNs being slower then a proxy server is false, or at least not necessarily true. The only heavy lifting involved in a VPN is encryption, and that can often by handled by hardware now. A VPN also has the advantage of being able to use its own protocol which can make it faster and more efficient then a proxy. A proxy may also need to deal with double the encryption (eg decrypt and re-encrypt https) as well as mangling content rather then just encapsulating it which can make it slower.
– davidgo
Nov 15 at 21:25
Im sorry but im not really an expert in these things. In short I just need multiple servers to have the same IP, thats the main focus. I started this topic with VLAN because I thought its possible to do something like this with it but guess not. So this is the only thing I need it doesnt matter if its with VPN or proxy or this VLAN but this VLAN doesnt seem like its meant for this. Guess there are tutorials how to setup a VPN to get the encryption handled by hardware or even turned it off? Or what do you suggest? Thanks.
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 21:30
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Your question is unclear, so I'll address the various components.
In most cases (and the edge cases won't apply to you, they apply where you have exceptional connectivity and are multicasting, eg Googles nameservers and using technologies you most likely don't have access too - like powerful BGP routers with upstreams who you talk BGP to), only 1 device can legitimately have a public address. If you want multiple devices to appear to share the same single public IP address, then you would typically put them behind a router, give the router that public IP address and translate from the internal IP addresses of the devices behind it to the external devices using NAT and/or port forwarding.
VLANs don't directly help you because they are IP address agnostic. They carve out broadcast domains/networks from a large flat network. IE if you have, for example, 3 groups of computers on a LAN that you want to be able to communicate directly with each other, but not between groups, a VLAN can divide the traffic. A VLAN won't help you with your stated goal, but can help organise your network.
VPNs allow you to encrypt data between 2 points, and make your connection appear to come from somewhere else. If the devices all connect to the same location/switch, you don't want a VPN. If your computers are in multiple places, you can use a VPN to force the computers to all go through the same router - which you would want to do if you are wanting all traffic to appear from 1 address. A VPN itself though does not share the public IP address, that would still be down to the router doing NAT.
A proxy is an alternative way of asking a single computer (which uses the desired IP address) to get content on behalf of other computers. Proxy servers are protocol specific (mainly used for http and https requests). There is no single way to do proxying, so the solution depends on your OS and what you are trying to do. SQUID is a well known piece of software that can do powerful proxying. SOCKS is another lightweight protocol which will allow you to do some proxying (and is more generic then SQUID).
answered Nov 15 at 19:04
davidgo
41.4k74985
Your question is unclear, so I'll address the various components.
In most cases (and the edge cases won't apply to you, they apply where you have exceptional connectivity and are multicasting, eg Googles nameservers and using technologies you most likely don't have access too - like powerful BGP routers with upstreams who you talk BGP to), only 1 device can legitimately have a public address. If you want multiple devices to appear to share the same single public IP address, then you would typically put them behind a router, give the router that public IP address and translate from the internal IP addresses of the devices behind it to the external devices using NAT and/or port forwarding.
VLANs don't directly help you because they are IP address agnostic. They carve out broadcast domains/networks from a large flat network. IE if you have, for example, 3 groups of computers on a LAN that you want to be able to communicate directly with each other, but not between groups, a VLAN can divide the traffic. A VLAN won't help you with your stated goal, but can help organise your network.
VPNs allow you to encrypt data between 2 points, and make your connection appear to come from somewhere else. If the devices all connect to the same location/switch, you don't want a VPN. If your computers are in multiple places, you can use a VPN to force the computers to all go through the same router - which you would want to do if you are wanting all traffic to appear from 1 address. A VPN itself though does not share the public IP address, that would still be down to the router doing NAT.
A proxy is an alternative way of asking a single computer (which uses the desired IP address) to get content on behalf of other computers. Proxy servers are protocol specific (mainly used for http and https requests). There is no single way to do proxying, so the solution depends on your OS and what you are trying to do. SQUID is a well known piece of software that can do powerful proxying. SOCKS is another lightweight protocol which will allow you to do some proxying (and is more generic then SQUID).
answered Nov 15 at 19:04
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answered Nov 15 at 19:04
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answered Nov 15 at 19:04
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answered Nov 15 at 19:04
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Basically I use a service that use IP binding and I can only bind 1 IP, and I want to workaround this with a something so multiple server will have the same public IP that the service is binded to. They allow subnet IP's so its not that the service is limited to 1 server they just dont provide it that way. For proxies I would need socks5 protocol.
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 20:04
So sounds like VPN would be the most suitable, but the testing that I did so far is that VPN was really really slower compared to a proxy server, which had basically direct connection speeds. For example I thought proxifier would be good but that doesnt support stuff like Virtualbox and etc. So I need a different solution. Looks like so far I have to stick to a VPN server.
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 20:08
No offense, but you appear to need expert help (I assume its business related as you mention servers in a DC). Most of what you say makes no sense (ie they allow Subnet IP's) - do you mean they allow a subnet - which implies multiple IP's in which case thats what you should be using? Also "the VLAN is Hetzners vSwitch" is nonsensical as it confused a technology with an implementation. If all machines are connected to the same switch a VPN is not a sensible solution.
– davidgo
Nov 15 at 21:22
Generalising somewhat, the information you have about VPNs being slower then a proxy server is false, or at least not necessarily true. The only heavy lifting involved in a VPN is encryption, and that can often by handled by hardware now. A VPN also has the advantage of being able to use its own protocol which can make it faster and more efficient then a proxy. A proxy may also need to deal with double the encryption (eg decrypt and re-encrypt https) as well as mangling content rather then just encapsulating it which can make it slower.
– davidgo
Nov 15 at 21:25
Im sorry but im not really an expert in these things. In short I just need multiple servers to have the same IP, thats the main focus. I started this topic with VLAN because I thought its possible to do something like this with it but guess not. So this is the only thing I need it doesnt matter if its with VPN or proxy or this VLAN but this VLAN doesnt seem like its meant for this. Guess there are tutorials how to setup a VPN to get the encryption handled by hardware or even turned it off? Or what do you suggest? Thanks.
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 21:30
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show 11 more comments
Basically I use a service that use IP binding and I can only bind 1 IP, and I want to workaround this with a something so multiple server will have the same public IP that the service is binded to. They allow subnet IP's so its not that the service is limited to 1 server they just dont provide it that way. For proxies I would need socks5 protocol.
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 20:04
So sounds like VPN would be the most suitable, but the testing that I did so far is that VPN was really really slower compared to a proxy server, which had basically direct connection speeds. For example I thought proxifier would be good but that doesnt support stuff like Virtualbox and etc. So I need a different solution. Looks like so far I have to stick to a VPN server.
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 20:08
No offense, but you appear to need expert help (I assume its business related as you mention servers in a DC). Most of what you say makes no sense (ie they allow Subnet IP's) - do you mean they allow a subnet - which implies multiple IP's in which case thats what you should be using? Also "the VLAN is Hetzners vSwitch" is nonsensical as it confused a technology with an implementation. If all machines are connected to the same switch a VPN is not a sensible solution.
– davidgo
Nov 15 at 21:22
Generalising somewhat, the information you have about VPNs being slower then a proxy server is false, or at least not necessarily true. The only heavy lifting involved in a VPN is encryption, and that can often by handled by hardware now. A VPN also has the advantage of being able to use its own protocol which can make it faster and more efficient then a proxy. A proxy may also need to deal with double the encryption (eg decrypt and re-encrypt https) as well as mangling content rather then just encapsulating it which can make it slower.
– davidgo
Nov 15 at 21:25
Im sorry but im not really an expert in these things. In short I just need multiple servers to have the same IP, thats the main focus. I started this topic with VLAN because I thought its possible to do something like this with it but guess not. So this is the only thing I need it doesnt matter if its with VPN or proxy or this VLAN but this VLAN doesnt seem like its meant for this. Guess there are tutorials how to setup a VPN to get the encryption handled by hardware or even turned it off? Or what do you suggest? Thanks.
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 21:30
Basically I use a service that use IP binding and I can only bind 1 IP, and I want to workaround this with a something so multiple server will have the same public IP that the service is binded to. They allow subnet IP's so its not that the service is limited to 1 server they just dont provide it that way. For proxies I would need socks5 protocol.
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 20:04
Basically I use a service that use IP binding and I can only bind 1 IP, and I want to workaround this with a something so multiple server will have the same public IP that the service is binded to. They allow subnet IP's so its not that the service is limited to 1 server they just dont provide it that way. For proxies I would need socks5 protocol.
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 20:04
So sounds like VPN would be the most suitable, but the testing that I did so far is that VPN was really really slower compared to a proxy server, which had basically direct connection speeds. For example I thought proxifier would be good but that doesnt support stuff like Virtualbox and etc. So I need a different solution. Looks like so far I have to stick to a VPN server.
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 20:08
So sounds like VPN would be the most suitable, but the testing that I did so far is that VPN was really really slower compared to a proxy server, which had basically direct connection speeds. For example I thought proxifier would be good but that doesnt support stuff like Virtualbox and etc. So I need a different solution. Looks like so far I have to stick to a VPN server.
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 20:08
No offense, but you appear to need expert help (I assume its business related as you mention servers in a DC). Most of what you say makes no sense (ie they allow Subnet IP's) - do you mean they allow a subnet - which implies multiple IP's in which case thats what you should be using? Also "the VLAN is Hetzners vSwitch" is nonsensical as it confused a technology with an implementation. If all machines are connected to the same switch a VPN is not a sensible solution.
– davidgo
Nov 15 at 21:22
No offense, but you appear to need expert help (I assume its business related as you mention servers in a DC). Most of what you say makes no sense (ie they allow Subnet IP's) - do you mean they allow a subnet - which implies multiple IP's in which case thats what you should be using? Also "the VLAN is Hetzners vSwitch" is nonsensical as it confused a technology with an implementation. If all machines are connected to the same switch a VPN is not a sensible solution.
– davidgo
Nov 15 at 21:22
Generalising somewhat, the information you have about VPNs being slower then a proxy server is false, or at least not necessarily true. The only heavy lifting involved in a VPN is encryption, and that can often by handled by hardware now. A VPN also has the advantage of being able to use its own protocol which can make it faster and more efficient then a proxy. A proxy may also need to deal with double the encryption (eg decrypt and re-encrypt https) as well as mangling content rather then just encapsulating it which can make it slower.
– davidgo
Nov 15 at 21:25
Generalising somewhat, the information you have about VPNs being slower then a proxy server is false, or at least not necessarily true. The only heavy lifting involved in a VPN is encryption, and that can often by handled by hardware now. A VPN also has the advantage of being able to use its own protocol which can make it faster and more efficient then a proxy. A proxy may also need to deal with double the encryption (eg decrypt and re-encrypt https) as well as mangling content rather then just encapsulating it which can make it slower.
– davidgo
Nov 15 at 21:25
Im sorry but im not really an expert in these things. In short I just need multiple servers to have the same IP, thats the main focus. I started this topic with VLAN because I thought its possible to do something like this with it but guess not. So this is the only thing I need it doesnt matter if its with VPN or proxy or this VLAN but this VLAN doesnt seem like its meant for this. Guess there are tutorials how to setup a VPN to get the encryption handled by hardware or even turned it off? Or what do you suggest? Thanks.
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 21:30
Im sorry but im not really an expert in these things. In short I just need multiple servers to have the same IP, thats the main focus. I started this topic with VLAN because I thought its possible to do something like this with it but guess not. So this is the only thing I need it doesnt matter if its with VPN or proxy or this VLAN but this VLAN doesnt seem like its meant for this. Guess there are tutorials how to setup a VPN to get the encryption handled by hardware or even turned it off? Or what do you suggest? Thanks.
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 21:30
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they can all get the same public IP address Not VLAN, not VPN. NAT, proxy, another front-end.
– Akina
Nov 15 at 18:39
I know proxy can do it but no idea how to get system wide proxy working, also with VPN you can have the same public IP. Can you elaborate a little bit more please? Thanks. :)
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 18:52
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@Xalyy you might get better help if you provide a more specific question - your question, as asked, borders on non-sensical, and answers, like mine below, can only address the generalities. Relevant information would include OS's involved, use case, locations of the systems and models, locations and connectivity of routers. Also if you are talking about 1 IP, or a block of iP's.
– davidgo
Nov 15 at 19:06
Well currently im using linux but I can get Windows too if it would required for this. The servers are in the same datacenters so its 1 provider. And the VLAN is Hetzners vSwitch. For the rest I explained that in the comments below.
– Xalyy
Nov 15 at 20:11