Does multi-classing into Fighter give you heavy armor proficiency?
$begingroup$
A lot of build guides I've seen suggest you should dip into Fighter in order to get heavy armor proficiency. But that doesn't seem right since the multi-class rules in the PHB (p164) does not list heavy armor as a proficiency you get.
Have I misunderstood something? Is there a way to get heavy armor by multi-classing into fighter?
dnd-5e multi-classing fighter armor proficiency
edited 25 mins ago
V2Blast
24.7k383155
asked 1 hour ago
M.T. BlackM.T. Black
212
New contributor
M.T. Black is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
A lot of build guides I've seen suggest you should dip into Fighter in order to get heavy armor proficiency. But that doesn't seem right since the multi-class rules in the PHB (p164) does not list heavy armor as a proficiency you get.
Have I misunderstood something? Is there a way to get heavy armor by multi-classing into fighter?
dnd-5e multi-classing fighter armor proficiency
edited 25 mins ago
V2Blast
24.7k383155
asked 1 hour ago
M.T. BlackM.T. Black
212
New contributor
M.T. Black is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour, and check out the help center for more guidance.
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
25 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
A lot of build guides I've seen suggest you should dip into Fighter in order to get heavy armor proficiency. But that doesn't seem right since the multi-class rules in the PHB (p164) does not list heavy armor as a proficiency you get.
Have I misunderstood something? Is there a way to get heavy armor by multi-classing into fighter?
dnd-5e multi-classing fighter armor proficiency
edited 25 mins ago
V2Blast
24.7k383155
asked 1 hour ago
M.T. BlackM.T. Black
212
New contributor
M.T. Black is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
$endgroup$
A lot of build guides I've seen suggest you should dip into Fighter in order to get heavy armor proficiency. But that doesn't seem right since the multi-class rules in the PHB (p164) does not list heavy armor as a proficiency you get.
Have I misunderstood something? Is there a way to get heavy armor by multi-classing into fighter?
dnd-5e multi-classing fighter armor proficiency
dnd-5e multi-classing fighter armor proficiency
edited 25 mins ago
V2Blast
24.7k383155
asked 1 hour ago
M.T. BlackM.T. Black
212
New contributor
M.T. Black is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
edited 25 mins ago
V2Blast
24.7k383155
asked 1 hour ago
M.T. BlackM.T. Black
212
New contributor
M.T. Black is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
edited 25 mins ago
V2Blast
24.7k383155
edited 25 mins ago
V2Blast
24.7k383155
edited 25 mins ago
V2Blast
24.7k383155
24.7k383155
asked 1 hour ago
M.T. BlackM.T. Black
212
New contributor
M.T. Black is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
asked 1 hour ago
M.T. BlackM.T. Black
212
asked 1 hour ago
M.T. BlackM.T. Black
212
212
New contributor
M.T. Black is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
New contributor
M.T. Black is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
M.T. Black is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
$begingroup$
Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour, and check out the help center for more guidance.
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
25 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour, and check out the help center for more guidance.
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
25 mins ago
$begingroup$
Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour, and check out the help center for more guidance.
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
25 mins ago
$begingroup$
Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour, and check out the help center for more guidance.
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
25 mins ago
add a comment |
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
What you've missed is that if you take a Fighter level first, it gives you heavy armour. Likewise, one of the main reasons people recommend Fighter dips is that if you take it at first level, you get the enormously useful Constitution saving throw proficiency. So when a guide recommends a Fighter dip, it's generally recommending starting with a level of Fighter, then taking further levels in what you actually want to do.
answered 1 hour ago
MinimanMiniman
114k28515709
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
That's a helpful distinction. Is it still called "dipping" if I take the minor class first?
$endgroup$
– M.T. Black
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
@M.T.Black: It can be, I suppose, as long as it's not your "main class" - the one you intend to take the most levels in.
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
24 mins ago
$begingroup$
@MTBlack Yes, especially if you don't start at level 1, so you never actually play as a pure Fighter.
$endgroup$
– Miniman
43 secs ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
You are not missing something. Multiclassing into fighter only gives light and medium armor proficiency (as well as shields and simple and martial weapons). You would have to also take the Heavily Armored feat to get heavy armor proficiency.
Somewhat oddly, while multiclassing into cleric only gives light and medium armor plus shields, it also gives you full access to the cleric domains, several of which give heavy armor proficiency. It doesn't seem quite fair that fighters don't get that, but there it is.
Perhaps fighter was considered too attractive of a "dip" with fighting style and second wind also at first level and very attractive additional features at second and third. But that's just speculation. Whatever the reason, if you want heavy armor proficiency from fighter (or paladin), you need to take that as your first-level class.
answered 1 hour ago
mattdmmattdm
16.6k877122
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Excellent, thankyou. I don't have the rep to uptick yet or I would
$endgroup$
– M.T. Black
1 hour ago
add a comment |
Your Answer
StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["\$", "\$"]]);
});
});
}, "mathjax-editing");
StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "122"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);
StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});
function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: false,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: null,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});
}
});
M.T. Black is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2frpg.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f143308%2fdoes-multi-classing-into-fighter-give-you-heavy-armor-proficiency%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
What you've missed is that if you take a Fighter level first, it gives you heavy armour. Likewise, one of the main reasons people recommend Fighter dips is that if you take it at first level, you get the enormously useful Constitution saving throw proficiency. So when a guide recommends a Fighter dip, it's generally recommending starting with a level of Fighter, then taking further levels in what you actually want to do.
answered 1 hour ago
MinimanMiniman
114k28515709
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
That's a helpful distinction. Is it still called "dipping" if I take the minor class first?
$endgroup$
– M.T. Black
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
@M.T.Black: It can be, I suppose, as long as it's not your "main class" - the one you intend to take the most levels in.
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
24 mins ago
$begingroup$
@MTBlack Yes, especially if you don't start at level 1, so you never actually play as a pure Fighter.
$endgroup$
– Miniman
43 secs ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
What you've missed is that if you take a Fighter level first, it gives you heavy armour. Likewise, one of the main reasons people recommend Fighter dips is that if you take it at first level, you get the enormously useful Constitution saving throw proficiency. So when a guide recommends a Fighter dip, it's generally recommending starting with a level of Fighter, then taking further levels in what you actually want to do.
answered 1 hour ago
MinimanMiniman
114k28515709
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
That's a helpful distinction. Is it still called "dipping" if I take the minor class first?
$endgroup$
– M.T. Black
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
@M.T.Black: It can be, I suppose, as long as it's not your "main class" - the one you intend to take the most levels in.
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
24 mins ago
$begingroup$
@MTBlack Yes, especially if you don't start at level 1, so you never actually play as a pure Fighter.
$endgroup$
– Miniman
43 secs ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
What you've missed is that if you take a Fighter level first, it gives you heavy armour. Likewise, one of the main reasons people recommend Fighter dips is that if you take it at first level, you get the enormously useful Constitution saving throw proficiency. So when a guide recommends a Fighter dip, it's generally recommending starting with a level of Fighter, then taking further levels in what you actually want to do.
answered 1 hour ago
MinimanMiniman
114k28515709
$endgroup$
What you've missed is that if you take a Fighter level first, it gives you heavy armour. Likewise, one of the main reasons people recommend Fighter dips is that if you take it at first level, you get the enormously useful Constitution saving throw proficiency. So when a guide recommends a Fighter dip, it's generally recommending starting with a level of Fighter, then taking further levels in what you actually want to do.
answered 1 hour ago
MinimanMiniman
114k28515709
answered 1 hour ago
MinimanMiniman
114k28515709
answered 1 hour ago
MinimanMiniman
114k28515709
answered 1 hour ago
MinimanMiniman
114k28515709
114k28515709
$begingroup$
That's a helpful distinction. Is it still called "dipping" if I take the minor class first?
$endgroup$
– M.T. Black
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
@M.T.Black: It can be, I suppose, as long as it's not your "main class" - the one you intend to take the most levels in.
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
24 mins ago
$begingroup$
@MTBlack Yes, especially if you don't start at level 1, so you never actually play as a pure Fighter.
$endgroup$
– Miniman
43 secs ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
That's a helpful distinction. Is it still called "dipping" if I take the minor class first?
$endgroup$
– M.T. Black
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
@M.T.Black: It can be, I suppose, as long as it's not your "main class" - the one you intend to take the most levels in.
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
24 mins ago
$begingroup$
@MTBlack Yes, especially if you don't start at level 1, so you never actually play as a pure Fighter.
$endgroup$
– Miniman
43 secs ago
$begingroup$
That's a helpful distinction. Is it still called "dipping" if I take the minor class first?
$endgroup$
– M.T. Black
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
That's a helpful distinction. Is it still called "dipping" if I take the minor class first?
$endgroup$
– M.T. Black
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
@M.T.Black: It can be, I suppose, as long as it's not your "main class" - the one you intend to take the most levels in.
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
24 mins ago
$begingroup$
@M.T.Black: It can be, I suppose, as long as it's not your "main class" - the one you intend to take the most levels in.
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
24 mins ago
$begingroup$
@MTBlack Yes, especially if you don't start at level 1, so you never actually play as a pure Fighter.
$endgroup$
– Miniman
43 secs ago
$begingroup$
@MTBlack Yes, especially if you don't start at level 1, so you never actually play as a pure Fighter.
$endgroup$
– Miniman
43 secs ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
You are not missing something. Multiclassing into fighter only gives light and medium armor proficiency (as well as shields and simple and martial weapons). You would have to also take the Heavily Armored feat to get heavy armor proficiency.
Somewhat oddly, while multiclassing into cleric only gives light and medium armor plus shields, it also gives you full access to the cleric domains, several of which give heavy armor proficiency. It doesn't seem quite fair that fighters don't get that, but there it is.
Perhaps fighter was considered too attractive of a "dip" with fighting style and second wind also at first level and very attractive additional features at second and third. But that's just speculation. Whatever the reason, if you want heavy armor proficiency from fighter (or paladin), you need to take that as your first-level class.
answered 1 hour ago
mattdmmattdm
16.6k877122
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Excellent, thankyou. I don't have the rep to uptick yet or I would
$endgroup$
– M.T. Black
1 hour ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
You are not missing something. Multiclassing into fighter only gives light and medium armor proficiency (as well as shields and simple and martial weapons). You would have to also take the Heavily Armored feat to get heavy armor proficiency.
Somewhat oddly, while multiclassing into cleric only gives light and medium armor plus shields, it also gives you full access to the cleric domains, several of which give heavy armor proficiency. It doesn't seem quite fair that fighters don't get that, but there it is.
Perhaps fighter was considered too attractive of a "dip" with fighting style and second wind also at first level and very attractive additional features at second and third. But that's just speculation. Whatever the reason, if you want heavy armor proficiency from fighter (or paladin), you need to take that as your first-level class.
answered 1 hour ago
mattdmmattdm
16.6k877122
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Excellent, thankyou. I don't have the rep to uptick yet or I would
$endgroup$
– M.T. Black
1 hour ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
You are not missing something. Multiclassing into fighter only gives light and medium armor proficiency (as well as shields and simple and martial weapons). You would have to also take the Heavily Armored feat to get heavy armor proficiency.
Somewhat oddly, while multiclassing into cleric only gives light and medium armor plus shields, it also gives you full access to the cleric domains, several of which give heavy armor proficiency. It doesn't seem quite fair that fighters don't get that, but there it is.
Perhaps fighter was considered too attractive of a "dip" with fighting style and second wind also at first level and very attractive additional features at second and third. But that's just speculation. Whatever the reason, if you want heavy armor proficiency from fighter (or paladin), you need to take that as your first-level class.
answered 1 hour ago
mattdmmattdm
16.6k877122
$endgroup$
You are not missing something. Multiclassing into fighter only gives light and medium armor proficiency (as well as shields and simple and martial weapons). You would have to also take the Heavily Armored feat to get heavy armor proficiency.
Somewhat oddly, while multiclassing into cleric only gives light and medium armor plus shields, it also gives you full access to the cleric domains, several of which give heavy armor proficiency. It doesn't seem quite fair that fighters don't get that, but there it is.
Perhaps fighter was considered too attractive of a "dip" with fighting style and second wind also at first level and very attractive additional features at second and third. But that's just speculation. Whatever the reason, if you want heavy armor proficiency from fighter (or paladin), you need to take that as your first-level class.
answered 1 hour ago
mattdmmattdm
16.6k877122
edited 1 hour ago
answered 1 hour ago
mattdmmattdm
16.6k877122
answered 1 hour ago
mattdmmattdm
16.6k877122
answered 1 hour ago
mattdmmattdm
16.6k877122
16.6k877122
$begingroup$
Excellent, thankyou. I don't have the rep to uptick yet or I would
$endgroup$
– M.T. Black
1 hour ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Excellent, thankyou. I don't have the rep to uptick yet or I would
$endgroup$
– M.T. Black
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
Excellent, thankyou. I don't have the rep to uptick yet or I would
$endgroup$
– M.T. Black
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
Excellent, thankyou. I don't have the rep to uptick yet or I would
$endgroup$
– M.T. Black
1 hour ago
add a comment |
M.T. Black is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
M.T. Black is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
M.T. Black is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
M.T. Black is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
Thanks for contributing an answer to Role-playing Games Stack Exchange!
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2frpg.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f143308%2fdoes-multi-classing-into-fighter-give-you-heavy-armor-proficiency%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
$begingroup$
Welcome to RPG.SE! Take the tour, and check out the help center for more guidance.
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
25 mins ago