Can I connect a SATA disk on a SAS connector on the motherboard?
I have a motherboard with a lot of SAS connectors. The motherboard manual specifies that:
these connectors are for the SAS signal cables for SAS hard disk drives that allows up to 6Gb/s of data transfer rate.
Can I connect SATA drives to SAS connectors?
It looks like other people are interested by the opposite (that is connecting SAS drives to SATA motherboard), and I'm unable to find the definitive answer.
Does the 6 Gb/s transfer rate means that I'll get an equivalent of SATA 3 (which is important if I use SATA 3 SSDs)?
Are there drawbacks using SAS connectors instead of SATA 3 ones for SATA 2 and SATA 3 drives? In other words, if the motherboard has both SATA 3 and SAS connectors, what is the reason, if any, to use SATA 3 connectors for SATA drives?
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I have a motherboard with a lot of SAS connectors. The motherboard manual specifies that:
these connectors are for the SAS signal cables for SAS hard disk drives that allows up to 6Gb/s of data transfer rate.
Can I connect SATA drives to SAS connectors?
It looks like other people are interested by the opposite (that is connecting SAS drives to SATA motherboard), and I'm unable to find the definitive answer.
Does the 6 Gb/s transfer rate means that I'll get an equivalent of SATA 3 (which is important if I use SATA 3 SSDs)?
Are there drawbacks using SAS connectors instead of SATA 3 ones for SATA 2 and SATA 3 drives? In other words, if the motherboard has both SATA 3 and SAS connectors, what is the reason, if any, to use SATA 3 connectors for SATA drives?
motherboard sata connector sas
add a comment |
I have a motherboard with a lot of SAS connectors. The motherboard manual specifies that:
these connectors are for the SAS signal cables for SAS hard disk drives that allows up to 6Gb/s of data transfer rate.
Can I connect SATA drives to SAS connectors?
It looks like other people are interested by the opposite (that is connecting SAS drives to SATA motherboard), and I'm unable to find the definitive answer.
Does the 6 Gb/s transfer rate means that I'll get an equivalent of SATA 3 (which is important if I use SATA 3 SSDs)?
Are there drawbacks using SAS connectors instead of SATA 3 ones for SATA 2 and SATA 3 drives? In other words, if the motherboard has both SATA 3 and SAS connectors, what is the reason, if any, to use SATA 3 connectors for SATA drives?
motherboard sata connector sas
I have a motherboard with a lot of SAS connectors. The motherboard manual specifies that:
these connectors are for the SAS signal cables for SAS hard disk drives that allows up to 6Gb/s of data transfer rate.
Can I connect SATA drives to SAS connectors?
It looks like other people are interested by the opposite (that is connecting SAS drives to SATA motherboard), and I'm unable to find the definitive answer.
Does the 6 Gb/s transfer rate means that I'll get an equivalent of SATA 3 (which is important if I use SATA 3 SSDs)?
Are there drawbacks using SAS connectors instead of SATA 3 ones for SATA 2 and SATA 3 drives? In other words, if the motherboard has both SATA 3 and SAS connectors, what is the reason, if any, to use SATA 3 connectors for SATA drives?
motherboard sata connector sas
motherboard sata connector sas
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Can I connect SATA drives to SAS connectors?
Yes, well known question / answer
Does the 6 Gb/s transfer rate means that I'll get an equivalent of SATA 3 (which is important if I use SATA 3 SSDs)?
Yes. They will negotiate the speed, slower device wins (12G sas ctrl will lower speed to sata 2 drive if needed) or drive will lower speed to older SAS controller. MSM software (or BIOS) can show you negotiated speeds.
Are there drawbacks using SAS connectors instead of SATA 3 ones for SATA 2 and SATA 3 drives? In other words, if the motherboard has both SATA 3 and SAS connectors, what is the reason, if any, to use SATA 3 connectors for SATA drives?
Use SAS. Usually SATA connector are part of Intel southbridge. Tests I've done show throughput drops proportionally to number of SATA drives connected to southbridge and results were horrific for 6 drives used simultaneously on Intel southbridge.
SAS controller on your motherboard is probably LSI using 4 pcie lanes - throughput was the same if you use 1 or 12 SAS drives (i lost the link to that blog I made).
Yes you might have to buy appropriate SAS cable (it's another topic, cheap on ebay from china).
The only reason where you might not use SAS is when BIOS doesn't allow booting from SAS drive (but todays everyone boots from NVME anyway).
Here is a test of my SAS setup, 16 drives on expander (expander slows things down, but results are shockingly better than you would achieve with intel southbridge).
Simultaneous test of 6GB eMLC on 12GB controller + 24 port SAS expander. Doesn't matter if drive is sas or sata.
add a comment |
You can usually (but not always) connect SATA drives to a SAS backplane - where the motherboard is designed to support it it will work, however there are a surprising number of corner cases - For example I help maintain a Dell Mass Storage array - it has an SAS backplane. You can plug a SATA drive in it and it will work - sort-of - until it causes corruption. You can get an "Interposer" to make a SATA drive work with an SAS backplane from Dell - of-course its not free.
On the otherhand, I've used SATA drives directly in Intel and HP systems without issues (well, without issues accepting SATA drives, the HP systems were older and did not like drives > 2TB).
Normally the spec sheet will tell you what drives are supported, although its usually not comprehensive.
add a comment |
The Wikipedia says
SAS offers backward compatibility with SATA, versions 2 and later. This allows for SATA drives to be connected to SAS backplanes. The reverse, connecting SAS drives to SATA backplanes, is not possible.
So...
- yes
- yes
- the reason to use a SATA port for a SATA drive? The things are kind of meant to go that way... If you want to connect the SATA drive to the SAS port, you'll need a breakout cable. The SAS port on your motherboard is probably the SFF-8087, but please double check that. If it is the case, you'll need something like this
Good luck :)
add a comment |
The Seagate knowledgebase article Connecting SATA drive to SAS controller confirms you can do this:
The use of SATA hard drives on SAS controllers is made possible by the
fact that both share the same infrastructure and have similar
features.
SATA drives may be plugged into SAS controllers.
SAS drives cannot be plugged into SATA controllers.
Please provide your answer as text in the body, not just as a link.
– Patrick Mevzek
Jul 23 '18 at 1:25
add a comment |
It depends on the motherboard manufacturer. For example the HP, you may need a license dongle.
The standards themselves are compatible, and you can connect SATA drives on SAS controllers.
Of course, if the manufacturer is not something invented to benefit from the void.
2
I don't understand your last sentence.
– Twisty Impersonator
Jun 7 '15 at 2:27
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Can I connect SATA drives to SAS connectors?
Yes, well known question / answer
Does the 6 Gb/s transfer rate means that I'll get an equivalent of SATA 3 (which is important if I use SATA 3 SSDs)?
Yes. They will negotiate the speed, slower device wins (12G sas ctrl will lower speed to sata 2 drive if needed) or drive will lower speed to older SAS controller. MSM software (or BIOS) can show you negotiated speeds.
Are there drawbacks using SAS connectors instead of SATA 3 ones for SATA 2 and SATA 3 drives? In other words, if the motherboard has both SATA 3 and SAS connectors, what is the reason, if any, to use SATA 3 connectors for SATA drives?
Use SAS. Usually SATA connector are part of Intel southbridge. Tests I've done show throughput drops proportionally to number of SATA drives connected to southbridge and results were horrific for 6 drives used simultaneously on Intel southbridge.
SAS controller on your motherboard is probably LSI using 4 pcie lanes - throughput was the same if you use 1 or 12 SAS drives (i lost the link to that blog I made).
Yes you might have to buy appropriate SAS cable (it's another topic, cheap on ebay from china).
The only reason where you might not use SAS is when BIOS doesn't allow booting from SAS drive (but todays everyone boots from NVME anyway).
Here is a test of my SAS setup, 16 drives on expander (expander slows things down, but results are shockingly better than you would achieve with intel southbridge).
Simultaneous test of 6GB eMLC on 12GB controller + 24 port SAS expander. Doesn't matter if drive is sas or sata.
add a comment |
Can I connect SATA drives to SAS connectors?
Yes, well known question / answer
Does the 6 Gb/s transfer rate means that I'll get an equivalent of SATA 3 (which is important if I use SATA 3 SSDs)?
Yes. They will negotiate the speed, slower device wins (12G sas ctrl will lower speed to sata 2 drive if needed) or drive will lower speed to older SAS controller. MSM software (or BIOS) can show you negotiated speeds.
Are there drawbacks using SAS connectors instead of SATA 3 ones for SATA 2 and SATA 3 drives? In other words, if the motherboard has both SATA 3 and SAS connectors, what is the reason, if any, to use SATA 3 connectors for SATA drives?
Use SAS. Usually SATA connector are part of Intel southbridge. Tests I've done show throughput drops proportionally to number of SATA drives connected to southbridge and results were horrific for 6 drives used simultaneously on Intel southbridge.
SAS controller on your motherboard is probably LSI using 4 pcie lanes - throughput was the same if you use 1 or 12 SAS drives (i lost the link to that blog I made).
Yes you might have to buy appropriate SAS cable (it's another topic, cheap on ebay from china).
The only reason where you might not use SAS is when BIOS doesn't allow booting from SAS drive (but todays everyone boots from NVME anyway).
Here is a test of my SAS setup, 16 drives on expander (expander slows things down, but results are shockingly better than you would achieve with intel southbridge).
Simultaneous test of 6GB eMLC on 12GB controller + 24 port SAS expander. Doesn't matter if drive is sas or sata.
add a comment |
Can I connect SATA drives to SAS connectors?
Yes, well known question / answer
Does the 6 Gb/s transfer rate means that I'll get an equivalent of SATA 3 (which is important if I use SATA 3 SSDs)?
Yes. They will negotiate the speed, slower device wins (12G sas ctrl will lower speed to sata 2 drive if needed) or drive will lower speed to older SAS controller. MSM software (or BIOS) can show you negotiated speeds.
Are there drawbacks using SAS connectors instead of SATA 3 ones for SATA 2 and SATA 3 drives? In other words, if the motherboard has both SATA 3 and SAS connectors, what is the reason, if any, to use SATA 3 connectors for SATA drives?
Use SAS. Usually SATA connector are part of Intel southbridge. Tests I've done show throughput drops proportionally to number of SATA drives connected to southbridge and results were horrific for 6 drives used simultaneously on Intel southbridge.
SAS controller on your motherboard is probably LSI using 4 pcie lanes - throughput was the same if you use 1 or 12 SAS drives (i lost the link to that blog I made).
Yes you might have to buy appropriate SAS cable (it's another topic, cheap on ebay from china).
The only reason where you might not use SAS is when BIOS doesn't allow booting from SAS drive (but todays everyone boots from NVME anyway).
Here is a test of my SAS setup, 16 drives on expander (expander slows things down, but results are shockingly better than you would achieve with intel southbridge).
Simultaneous test of 6GB eMLC on 12GB controller + 24 port SAS expander. Doesn't matter if drive is sas or sata.
Can I connect SATA drives to SAS connectors?
Yes, well known question / answer
Does the 6 Gb/s transfer rate means that I'll get an equivalent of SATA 3 (which is important if I use SATA 3 SSDs)?
Yes. They will negotiate the speed, slower device wins (12G sas ctrl will lower speed to sata 2 drive if needed) or drive will lower speed to older SAS controller. MSM software (or BIOS) can show you negotiated speeds.
Are there drawbacks using SAS connectors instead of SATA 3 ones for SATA 2 and SATA 3 drives? In other words, if the motherboard has both SATA 3 and SAS connectors, what is the reason, if any, to use SATA 3 connectors for SATA drives?
Use SAS. Usually SATA connector are part of Intel southbridge. Tests I've done show throughput drops proportionally to number of SATA drives connected to southbridge and results were horrific for 6 drives used simultaneously on Intel southbridge.
SAS controller on your motherboard is probably LSI using 4 pcie lanes - throughput was the same if you use 1 or 12 SAS drives (i lost the link to that blog I made).
Yes you might have to buy appropriate SAS cable (it's another topic, cheap on ebay from china).
The only reason where you might not use SAS is when BIOS doesn't allow booting from SAS drive (but todays everyone boots from NVME anyway).
Here is a test of my SAS setup, 16 drives on expander (expander slows things down, but results are shockingly better than you would achieve with intel southbridge).
Simultaneous test of 6GB eMLC on 12GB controller + 24 port SAS expander. Doesn't matter if drive is sas or sata.
edited Jan 26 at 21:51
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You can usually (but not always) connect SATA drives to a SAS backplane - where the motherboard is designed to support it it will work, however there are a surprising number of corner cases - For example I help maintain a Dell Mass Storage array - it has an SAS backplane. You can plug a SATA drive in it and it will work - sort-of - until it causes corruption. You can get an "Interposer" to make a SATA drive work with an SAS backplane from Dell - of-course its not free.
On the otherhand, I've used SATA drives directly in Intel and HP systems without issues (well, without issues accepting SATA drives, the HP systems were older and did not like drives > 2TB).
Normally the spec sheet will tell you what drives are supported, although its usually not comprehensive.
add a comment |
You can usually (but not always) connect SATA drives to a SAS backplane - where the motherboard is designed to support it it will work, however there are a surprising number of corner cases - For example I help maintain a Dell Mass Storage array - it has an SAS backplane. You can plug a SATA drive in it and it will work - sort-of - until it causes corruption. You can get an "Interposer" to make a SATA drive work with an SAS backplane from Dell - of-course its not free.
On the otherhand, I've used SATA drives directly in Intel and HP systems without issues (well, without issues accepting SATA drives, the HP systems were older and did not like drives > 2TB).
Normally the spec sheet will tell you what drives are supported, although its usually not comprehensive.
add a comment |
You can usually (but not always) connect SATA drives to a SAS backplane - where the motherboard is designed to support it it will work, however there are a surprising number of corner cases - For example I help maintain a Dell Mass Storage array - it has an SAS backplane. You can plug a SATA drive in it and it will work - sort-of - until it causes corruption. You can get an "Interposer" to make a SATA drive work with an SAS backplane from Dell - of-course its not free.
On the otherhand, I've used SATA drives directly in Intel and HP systems without issues (well, without issues accepting SATA drives, the HP systems were older and did not like drives > 2TB).
Normally the spec sheet will tell you what drives are supported, although its usually not comprehensive.
You can usually (but not always) connect SATA drives to a SAS backplane - where the motherboard is designed to support it it will work, however there are a surprising number of corner cases - For example I help maintain a Dell Mass Storage array - it has an SAS backplane. You can plug a SATA drive in it and it will work - sort-of - until it causes corruption. You can get an "Interposer" to make a SATA drive work with an SAS backplane from Dell - of-course its not free.
On the otherhand, I've used SATA drives directly in Intel and HP systems without issues (well, without issues accepting SATA drives, the HP systems were older and did not like drives > 2TB).
Normally the spec sheet will tell you what drives are supported, although its usually not comprehensive.
answered Jun 7 '15 at 2:45
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The Wikipedia says
SAS offers backward compatibility with SATA, versions 2 and later. This allows for SATA drives to be connected to SAS backplanes. The reverse, connecting SAS drives to SATA backplanes, is not possible.
So...
- yes
- yes
- the reason to use a SATA port for a SATA drive? The things are kind of meant to go that way... If you want to connect the SATA drive to the SAS port, you'll need a breakout cable. The SAS port on your motherboard is probably the SFF-8087, but please double check that. If it is the case, you'll need something like this
Good luck :)
add a comment |
The Wikipedia says
SAS offers backward compatibility with SATA, versions 2 and later. This allows for SATA drives to be connected to SAS backplanes. The reverse, connecting SAS drives to SATA backplanes, is not possible.
So...
- yes
- yes
- the reason to use a SATA port for a SATA drive? The things are kind of meant to go that way... If you want to connect the SATA drive to the SAS port, you'll need a breakout cable. The SAS port on your motherboard is probably the SFF-8087, but please double check that. If it is the case, you'll need something like this
Good luck :)
add a comment |
The Wikipedia says
SAS offers backward compatibility with SATA, versions 2 and later. This allows for SATA drives to be connected to SAS backplanes. The reverse, connecting SAS drives to SATA backplanes, is not possible.
So...
- yes
- yes
- the reason to use a SATA port for a SATA drive? The things are kind of meant to go that way... If you want to connect the SATA drive to the SAS port, you'll need a breakout cable. The SAS port on your motherboard is probably the SFF-8087, but please double check that. If it is the case, you'll need something like this
Good luck :)
The Wikipedia says
SAS offers backward compatibility with SATA, versions 2 and later. This allows for SATA drives to be connected to SAS backplanes. The reverse, connecting SAS drives to SATA backplanes, is not possible.
So...
- yes
- yes
- the reason to use a SATA port for a SATA drive? The things are kind of meant to go that way... If you want to connect the SATA drive to the SAS port, you'll need a breakout cable. The SAS port on your motherboard is probably the SFF-8087, but please double check that. If it is the case, you'll need something like this
Good luck :)
answered Feb 10 '16 at 17:08
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The Seagate knowledgebase article Connecting SATA drive to SAS controller confirms you can do this:
The use of SATA hard drives on SAS controllers is made possible by the
fact that both share the same infrastructure and have similar
features.
SATA drives may be plugged into SAS controllers.
SAS drives cannot be plugged into SATA controllers.
Please provide your answer as text in the body, not just as a link.
– Patrick Mevzek
Jul 23 '18 at 1:25
add a comment |
The Seagate knowledgebase article Connecting SATA drive to SAS controller confirms you can do this:
The use of SATA hard drives on SAS controllers is made possible by the
fact that both share the same infrastructure and have similar
features.
SATA drives may be plugged into SAS controllers.
SAS drives cannot be plugged into SATA controllers.
Please provide your answer as text in the body, not just as a link.
– Patrick Mevzek
Jul 23 '18 at 1:25
add a comment |
The Seagate knowledgebase article Connecting SATA drive to SAS controller confirms you can do this:
The use of SATA hard drives on SAS controllers is made possible by the
fact that both share the same infrastructure and have similar
features.
SATA drives may be plugged into SAS controllers.
SAS drives cannot be plugged into SATA controllers.
The Seagate knowledgebase article Connecting SATA drive to SAS controller confirms you can do this:
The use of SATA hard drives on SAS controllers is made possible by the
fact that both share the same infrastructure and have similar
features.
SATA drives may be plugged into SAS controllers.
SAS drives cannot be plugged into SATA controllers.
edited Jul 23 '18 at 2:20
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Please provide your answer as text in the body, not just as a link.
– Patrick Mevzek
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Please provide your answer as text in the body, not just as a link.
– Patrick Mevzek
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Please provide your answer as text in the body, not just as a link.
– Patrick Mevzek
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Please provide your answer as text in the body, not just as a link.
– Patrick Mevzek
Jul 23 '18 at 1:25
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It depends on the motherboard manufacturer. For example the HP, you may need a license dongle.
The standards themselves are compatible, and you can connect SATA drives on SAS controllers.
Of course, if the manufacturer is not something invented to benefit from the void.
2
I don't understand your last sentence.
– Twisty Impersonator
Jun 7 '15 at 2:27
add a comment |
It depends on the motherboard manufacturer. For example the HP, you may need a license dongle.
The standards themselves are compatible, and you can connect SATA drives on SAS controllers.
Of course, if the manufacturer is not something invented to benefit from the void.
2
I don't understand your last sentence.
– Twisty Impersonator
Jun 7 '15 at 2:27
add a comment |
It depends on the motherboard manufacturer. For example the HP, you may need a license dongle.
The standards themselves are compatible, and you can connect SATA drives on SAS controllers.
Of course, if the manufacturer is not something invented to benefit from the void.
It depends on the motherboard manufacturer. For example the HP, you may need a license dongle.
The standards themselves are compatible, and you can connect SATA drives on SAS controllers.
Of course, if the manufacturer is not something invented to benefit from the void.
answered Jun 7 '15 at 2:11
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