Can I demand re-submission of a manuscript that has an odd document layout?
I am assigned to review a paper that has an extremely strange page layout (the pages are squares, single column with about 150 characters per line), making it very impractical to print or read. It is for a journal and was submitted via Manuscript Central.
I could of course read it on my screen (which I don’t like at all), or print it with either rotating or stretching the pages (which I tried but it’s very awkward to read and therefore extremely distracting).
Is it okay to write to the ADM and ask them to demand a re-submission in a proper document layout, i.e., A4 or US Letter? Or am I being fussy?
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I am assigned to review a paper that has an extremely strange page layout (the pages are squares, single column with about 150 characters per line), making it very impractical to print or read. It is for a journal and was submitted via Manuscript Central.
I could of course read it on my screen (which I don’t like at all), or print it with either rotating or stretching the pages (which I tried but it’s very awkward to read and therefore extremely distracting).
Is it okay to write to the ADM and ask them to demand a re-submission in a proper document layout, i.e., A4 or US Letter? Or am I being fussy?
peer-review formatting
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That layout definitely seems strange, but I'm not quite understanding the issue with printing it. Is it simply going to take 30% more paper than you'd prefer to use?
– Bryan Krause
9 hours ago
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the problem is that, a square page with 150 characters per line printed onto an A4 page is very difficult to read, and makes reviewing unnecessary cumbersome.
– thrau
6 hours ago
1
Oh, 150 characters per line certainly seems bothersome... I'm still having trouble picturing this format but I can understand your complaint.
– Bryan Krause
6 hours ago
1
I would suspect that the publisher has some computer problem, and write an email to their technical staff if the manuscript is actually supposed to look that way. Depending on their answer, you can still forward it to the editor and ask him to ask for a resubmission.
– Karl
4 hours ago
add a comment |
I am assigned to review a paper that has an extremely strange page layout (the pages are squares, single column with about 150 characters per line), making it very impractical to print or read. It is for a journal and was submitted via Manuscript Central.
I could of course read it on my screen (which I don’t like at all), or print it with either rotating or stretching the pages (which I tried but it’s very awkward to read and therefore extremely distracting).
Is it okay to write to the ADM and ask them to demand a re-submission in a proper document layout, i.e., A4 or US Letter? Or am I being fussy?
peer-review formatting
I am assigned to review a paper that has an extremely strange page layout (the pages are squares, single column with about 150 characters per line), making it very impractical to print or read. It is for a journal and was submitted via Manuscript Central.
I could of course read it on my screen (which I don’t like at all), or print it with either rotating or stretching the pages (which I tried but it’s very awkward to read and therefore extremely distracting).
Is it okay to write to the ADM and ask them to demand a re-submission in a proper document layout, i.e., A4 or US Letter? Or am I being fussy?
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That layout definitely seems strange, but I'm not quite understanding the issue with printing it. Is it simply going to take 30% more paper than you'd prefer to use?
– Bryan Krause
9 hours ago
1
the problem is that, a square page with 150 characters per line printed onto an A4 page is very difficult to read, and makes reviewing unnecessary cumbersome.
– thrau
6 hours ago
1
Oh, 150 characters per line certainly seems bothersome... I'm still having trouble picturing this format but I can understand your complaint.
– Bryan Krause
6 hours ago
1
I would suspect that the publisher has some computer problem, and write an email to their technical staff if the manuscript is actually supposed to look that way. Depending on their answer, you can still forward it to the editor and ask him to ask for a resubmission.
– Karl
4 hours ago
add a comment |
2
That layout definitely seems strange, but I'm not quite understanding the issue with printing it. Is it simply going to take 30% more paper than you'd prefer to use?
– Bryan Krause
9 hours ago
1
the problem is that, a square page with 150 characters per line printed onto an A4 page is very difficult to read, and makes reviewing unnecessary cumbersome.
– thrau
6 hours ago
1
Oh, 150 characters per line certainly seems bothersome... I'm still having trouble picturing this format but I can understand your complaint.
– Bryan Krause
6 hours ago
1
I would suspect that the publisher has some computer problem, and write an email to their technical staff if the manuscript is actually supposed to look that way. Depending on their answer, you can still forward it to the editor and ask him to ask for a resubmission.
– Karl
4 hours ago
2
2
That layout definitely seems strange, but I'm not quite understanding the issue with printing it. Is it simply going to take 30% more paper than you'd prefer to use?
– Bryan Krause
9 hours ago
That layout definitely seems strange, but I'm not quite understanding the issue with printing it. Is it simply going to take 30% more paper than you'd prefer to use?
– Bryan Krause
9 hours ago
1
1
the problem is that, a square page with 150 characters per line printed onto an A4 page is very difficult to read, and makes reviewing unnecessary cumbersome.
– thrau
6 hours ago
the problem is that, a square page with 150 characters per line printed onto an A4 page is very difficult to read, and makes reviewing unnecessary cumbersome.
– thrau
6 hours ago
1
1
Oh, 150 characters per line certainly seems bothersome... I'm still having trouble picturing this format but I can understand your complaint.
– Bryan Krause
6 hours ago
Oh, 150 characters per line certainly seems bothersome... I'm still having trouble picturing this format but I can understand your complaint.
– Bryan Krause
6 hours ago
1
1
I would suspect that the publisher has some computer problem, and write an email to their technical staff if the manuscript is actually supposed to look that way. Depending on their answer, you can still forward it to the editor and ask him to ask for a resubmission.
– Karl
4 hours ago
I would suspect that the publisher has some computer problem, and write an email to their technical staff if the manuscript is actually supposed to look that way. Depending on their answer, you can still forward it to the editor and ask him to ask for a resubmission.
– Karl
4 hours ago
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No. It is not your job as a reviewer to demand things. You can inform the editor that given the format of the manuscript that you will not review it. The editor will then likely look at the manuscript and either decide that you are being a pain and find a new reviewer or that the manuscript format is ridiculous. In that case, they will apologize to you and tell you that they are requesting a reformatted version.
Unless the format is really awful (like less than 10 lines a page or greater than 100 characters per line), the editor will probably conclude you are a pain.
maybe i chose the words for the title poorly. suppose i rephrase the title to "can i respectfully request ...". (~150 characters per line by the way)
– thrau
7 hours ago
@thrau yeah, that qualifies as a crazy format.
– StrongBad♦
6 hours ago
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It's exactly the job of the reviewer to demand things. Always through the editor, of course. :-)
– Karl
4 hours ago
@thrau If the editor decides that you're being a pain and finds a new reviewer, I think there's a good chance the new reviewer will also be a pain for the same reason. After a few iterations, the editor might request a reformatted version and ask you to review it.
– Andreas Blass
3 hours ago
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You can certainly request a reformatted version. But whether it is appropriate depends on the nature of the material and the journal. If it can't be published in a format like the one submitted then it is almost certainly appropriate to ask for a different format.
But some things are different, of course, and I don't have the details here to judge. Some books are square, some posters, etc. But unless the journal can deal with such a format then the reviewers probably shouldn't either.
But probably someone "above your pay grade" should be the one to demand. Editor?
You can, of course, refuse the assignment based on the inconvenience.
1
If it can't be published in a format like the one submitted then it is almost certainly appropriate. – This sentence seems to have a missing or surplus not.
– Wrzlprmft♦
6 hours ago
@Wrzlprmft. Appropriate to ask for a new version. I'll clarify.
– Buffy
5 hours ago
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The one column is not ugly for a submission. It is very normal for the journal to handle that reformatting and for authors not to worry about it.
The square thing IS ugly and a little strange (surprised it won't just print normally in Word?) But maybe it is a pdf.
I would lean to printing it and reviewing it. It's a minor imposition. (Reading poor English is much worse and if you have to handle a paper that needs a translator because of the flawed grammar, than just stop the review on those). But let the journal deal with the format peculiarity.
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But unless the OP has an A3 (or tabloid) size printer, 150 characters per line will be unreadable without a magnifying glass.
– alephzero
3 hours ago
150 characters per line is also unreasonable regardless of the type size.
– Reid
2 hours ago
Yeah I didn't see that part of it. Even if you rotate the page, it's tiny. Punt.
– guest
1 hour ago
@guest you didn't see it, because it want there originally. The OP mentioned it in a comment and I edited into the question.
– StrongBad♦
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No. It is not your job as a reviewer to demand things. You can inform the editor that given the format of the manuscript that you will not review it. The editor will then likely look at the manuscript and either decide that you are being a pain and find a new reviewer or that the manuscript format is ridiculous. In that case, they will apologize to you and tell you that they are requesting a reformatted version.
Unless the format is really awful (like less than 10 lines a page or greater than 100 characters per line), the editor will probably conclude you are a pain.
maybe i chose the words for the title poorly. suppose i rephrase the title to "can i respectfully request ...". (~150 characters per line by the way)
– thrau
7 hours ago
@thrau yeah, that qualifies as a crazy format.
– StrongBad♦
6 hours ago
2
It's exactly the job of the reviewer to demand things. Always through the editor, of course. :-)
– Karl
4 hours ago
@thrau If the editor decides that you're being a pain and finds a new reviewer, I think there's a good chance the new reviewer will also be a pain for the same reason. After a few iterations, the editor might request a reformatted version and ask you to review it.
– Andreas Blass
3 hours ago
add a comment |
No. It is not your job as a reviewer to demand things. You can inform the editor that given the format of the manuscript that you will not review it. The editor will then likely look at the manuscript and either decide that you are being a pain and find a new reviewer or that the manuscript format is ridiculous. In that case, they will apologize to you and tell you that they are requesting a reformatted version.
Unless the format is really awful (like less than 10 lines a page or greater than 100 characters per line), the editor will probably conclude you are a pain.
maybe i chose the words for the title poorly. suppose i rephrase the title to "can i respectfully request ...". (~150 characters per line by the way)
– thrau
7 hours ago
@thrau yeah, that qualifies as a crazy format.
– StrongBad♦
6 hours ago
2
It's exactly the job of the reviewer to demand things. Always through the editor, of course. :-)
– Karl
4 hours ago
@thrau If the editor decides that you're being a pain and finds a new reviewer, I think there's a good chance the new reviewer will also be a pain for the same reason. After a few iterations, the editor might request a reformatted version and ask you to review it.
– Andreas Blass
3 hours ago
add a comment |
No. It is not your job as a reviewer to demand things. You can inform the editor that given the format of the manuscript that you will not review it. The editor will then likely look at the manuscript and either decide that you are being a pain and find a new reviewer or that the manuscript format is ridiculous. In that case, they will apologize to you and tell you that they are requesting a reformatted version.
Unless the format is really awful (like less than 10 lines a page or greater than 100 characters per line), the editor will probably conclude you are a pain.
No. It is not your job as a reviewer to demand things. You can inform the editor that given the format of the manuscript that you will not review it. The editor will then likely look at the manuscript and either decide that you are being a pain and find a new reviewer or that the manuscript format is ridiculous. In that case, they will apologize to you and tell you that they are requesting a reformatted version.
Unless the format is really awful (like less than 10 lines a page or greater than 100 characters per line), the editor will probably conclude you are a pain.
answered 7 hours ago
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maybe i chose the words for the title poorly. suppose i rephrase the title to "can i respectfully request ...". (~150 characters per line by the way)
– thrau
7 hours ago
@thrau yeah, that qualifies as a crazy format.
– StrongBad♦
6 hours ago
2
It's exactly the job of the reviewer to demand things. Always through the editor, of course. :-)
– Karl
4 hours ago
@thrau If the editor decides that you're being a pain and finds a new reviewer, I think there's a good chance the new reviewer will also be a pain for the same reason. After a few iterations, the editor might request a reformatted version and ask you to review it.
– Andreas Blass
3 hours ago
add a comment |
maybe i chose the words for the title poorly. suppose i rephrase the title to "can i respectfully request ...". (~150 characters per line by the way)
– thrau
7 hours ago
@thrau yeah, that qualifies as a crazy format.
– StrongBad♦
6 hours ago
2
It's exactly the job of the reviewer to demand things. Always through the editor, of course. :-)
– Karl
4 hours ago
@thrau If the editor decides that you're being a pain and finds a new reviewer, I think there's a good chance the new reviewer will also be a pain for the same reason. After a few iterations, the editor might request a reformatted version and ask you to review it.
– Andreas Blass
3 hours ago
maybe i chose the words for the title poorly. suppose i rephrase the title to "can i respectfully request ...". (~150 characters per line by the way)
– thrau
7 hours ago
maybe i chose the words for the title poorly. suppose i rephrase the title to "can i respectfully request ...". (~150 characters per line by the way)
– thrau
7 hours ago
@thrau yeah, that qualifies as a crazy format.
– StrongBad♦
6 hours ago
@thrau yeah, that qualifies as a crazy format.
– StrongBad♦
6 hours ago
2
2
It's exactly the job of the reviewer to demand things. Always through the editor, of course. :-)
– Karl
4 hours ago
It's exactly the job of the reviewer to demand things. Always through the editor, of course. :-)
– Karl
4 hours ago
@thrau If the editor decides that you're being a pain and finds a new reviewer, I think there's a good chance the new reviewer will also be a pain for the same reason. After a few iterations, the editor might request a reformatted version and ask you to review it.
– Andreas Blass
3 hours ago
@thrau If the editor decides that you're being a pain and finds a new reviewer, I think there's a good chance the new reviewer will also be a pain for the same reason. After a few iterations, the editor might request a reformatted version and ask you to review it.
– Andreas Blass
3 hours ago
add a comment |
You can certainly request a reformatted version. But whether it is appropriate depends on the nature of the material and the journal. If it can't be published in a format like the one submitted then it is almost certainly appropriate to ask for a different format.
But some things are different, of course, and I don't have the details here to judge. Some books are square, some posters, etc. But unless the journal can deal with such a format then the reviewers probably shouldn't either.
But probably someone "above your pay grade" should be the one to demand. Editor?
You can, of course, refuse the assignment based on the inconvenience.
1
If it can't be published in a format like the one submitted then it is almost certainly appropriate. – This sentence seems to have a missing or surplus not.
– Wrzlprmft♦
6 hours ago
@Wrzlprmft. Appropriate to ask for a new version. I'll clarify.
– Buffy
5 hours ago
add a comment |
You can certainly request a reformatted version. But whether it is appropriate depends on the nature of the material and the journal. If it can't be published in a format like the one submitted then it is almost certainly appropriate to ask for a different format.
But some things are different, of course, and I don't have the details here to judge. Some books are square, some posters, etc. But unless the journal can deal with such a format then the reviewers probably shouldn't either.
But probably someone "above your pay grade" should be the one to demand. Editor?
You can, of course, refuse the assignment based on the inconvenience.
1
If it can't be published in a format like the one submitted then it is almost certainly appropriate. – This sentence seems to have a missing or surplus not.
– Wrzlprmft♦
6 hours ago
@Wrzlprmft. Appropriate to ask for a new version. I'll clarify.
– Buffy
5 hours ago
add a comment |
You can certainly request a reformatted version. But whether it is appropriate depends on the nature of the material and the journal. If it can't be published in a format like the one submitted then it is almost certainly appropriate to ask for a different format.
But some things are different, of course, and I don't have the details here to judge. Some books are square, some posters, etc. But unless the journal can deal with such a format then the reviewers probably shouldn't either.
But probably someone "above your pay grade" should be the one to demand. Editor?
You can, of course, refuse the assignment based on the inconvenience.
You can certainly request a reformatted version. But whether it is appropriate depends on the nature of the material and the journal. If it can't be published in a format like the one submitted then it is almost certainly appropriate to ask for a different format.
But some things are different, of course, and I don't have the details here to judge. Some books are square, some posters, etc. But unless the journal can deal with such a format then the reviewers probably shouldn't either.
But probably someone "above your pay grade" should be the one to demand. Editor?
You can, of course, refuse the assignment based on the inconvenience.
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If it can't be published in a format like the one submitted then it is almost certainly appropriate. – This sentence seems to have a missing or surplus not.
– Wrzlprmft♦
6 hours ago
@Wrzlprmft. Appropriate to ask for a new version. I'll clarify.
– Buffy
5 hours ago
add a comment |
1
If it can't be published in a format like the one submitted then it is almost certainly appropriate. – This sentence seems to have a missing or surplus not.
– Wrzlprmft♦
6 hours ago
@Wrzlprmft. Appropriate to ask for a new version. I'll clarify.
– Buffy
5 hours ago
1
1
If it can't be published in a format like the one submitted then it is almost certainly appropriate. – This sentence seems to have a missing or surplus not.
– Wrzlprmft♦
6 hours ago
If it can't be published in a format like the one submitted then it is almost certainly appropriate. – This sentence seems to have a missing or surplus not.
– Wrzlprmft♦
6 hours ago
@Wrzlprmft. Appropriate to ask for a new version. I'll clarify.
– Buffy
5 hours ago
@Wrzlprmft. Appropriate to ask for a new version. I'll clarify.
– Buffy
5 hours ago
add a comment |
The one column is not ugly for a submission. It is very normal for the journal to handle that reformatting and for authors not to worry about it.
The square thing IS ugly and a little strange (surprised it won't just print normally in Word?) But maybe it is a pdf.
I would lean to printing it and reviewing it. It's a minor imposition. (Reading poor English is much worse and if you have to handle a paper that needs a translator because of the flawed grammar, than just stop the review on those). But let the journal deal with the format peculiarity.
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But unless the OP has an A3 (or tabloid) size printer, 150 characters per line will be unreadable without a magnifying glass.
– alephzero
3 hours ago
150 characters per line is also unreasonable regardless of the type size.
– Reid
2 hours ago
Yeah I didn't see that part of it. Even if you rotate the page, it's tiny. Punt.
– guest
1 hour ago
@guest you didn't see it, because it want there originally. The OP mentioned it in a comment and I edited into the question.
– StrongBad♦
7 mins ago
add a comment |
The one column is not ugly for a submission. It is very normal for the journal to handle that reformatting and for authors not to worry about it.
The square thing IS ugly and a little strange (surprised it won't just print normally in Word?) But maybe it is a pdf.
I would lean to printing it and reviewing it. It's a minor imposition. (Reading poor English is much worse and if you have to handle a paper that needs a translator because of the flawed grammar, than just stop the review on those). But let the journal deal with the format peculiarity.
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But unless the OP has an A3 (or tabloid) size printer, 150 characters per line will be unreadable without a magnifying glass.
– alephzero
3 hours ago
150 characters per line is also unreasonable regardless of the type size.
– Reid
2 hours ago
Yeah I didn't see that part of it. Even if you rotate the page, it's tiny. Punt.
– guest
1 hour ago
@guest you didn't see it, because it want there originally. The OP mentioned it in a comment and I edited into the question.
– StrongBad♦
7 mins ago
add a comment |
The one column is not ugly for a submission. It is very normal for the journal to handle that reformatting and for authors not to worry about it.
The square thing IS ugly and a little strange (surprised it won't just print normally in Word?) But maybe it is a pdf.
I would lean to printing it and reviewing it. It's a minor imposition. (Reading poor English is much worse and if you have to handle a paper that needs a translator because of the flawed grammar, than just stop the review on those). But let the journal deal with the format peculiarity.
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The one column is not ugly for a submission. It is very normal for the journal to handle that reformatting and for authors not to worry about it.
The square thing IS ugly and a little strange (surprised it won't just print normally in Word?) But maybe it is a pdf.
I would lean to printing it and reviewing it. It's a minor imposition. (Reading poor English is much worse and if you have to handle a paper that needs a translator because of the flawed grammar, than just stop the review on those). But let the journal deal with the format peculiarity.
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But unless the OP has an A3 (or tabloid) size printer, 150 characters per line will be unreadable without a magnifying glass.
– alephzero
3 hours ago
150 characters per line is also unreasonable regardless of the type size.
– Reid
2 hours ago
Yeah I didn't see that part of it. Even if you rotate the page, it's tiny. Punt.
– guest
1 hour ago
@guest you didn't see it, because it want there originally. The OP mentioned it in a comment and I edited into the question.
– StrongBad♦
7 mins ago
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1
But unless the OP has an A3 (or tabloid) size printer, 150 characters per line will be unreadable without a magnifying glass.
– alephzero
3 hours ago
150 characters per line is also unreasonable regardless of the type size.
– Reid
2 hours ago
Yeah I didn't see that part of it. Even if you rotate the page, it's tiny. Punt.
– guest
1 hour ago
@guest you didn't see it, because it want there originally. The OP mentioned it in a comment and I edited into the question.
– StrongBad♦
7 mins ago
1
1
But unless the OP has an A3 (or tabloid) size printer, 150 characters per line will be unreadable without a magnifying glass.
– alephzero
3 hours ago
But unless the OP has an A3 (or tabloid) size printer, 150 characters per line will be unreadable without a magnifying glass.
– alephzero
3 hours ago
150 characters per line is also unreasonable regardless of the type size.
– Reid
2 hours ago
150 characters per line is also unreasonable regardless of the type size.
– Reid
2 hours ago
Yeah I didn't see that part of it. Even if you rotate the page, it's tiny. Punt.
– guest
1 hour ago
Yeah I didn't see that part of it. Even if you rotate the page, it's tiny. Punt.
– guest
1 hour ago
@guest you didn't see it, because it want there originally. The OP mentioned it in a comment and I edited into the question.
– StrongBad♦
7 mins ago
@guest you didn't see it, because it want there originally. The OP mentioned it in a comment and I edited into the question.
– StrongBad♦
7 mins ago
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That layout definitely seems strange, but I'm not quite understanding the issue with printing it. Is it simply going to take 30% more paper than you'd prefer to use?
– Bryan Krause
9 hours ago
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the problem is that, a square page with 150 characters per line printed onto an A4 page is very difficult to read, and makes reviewing unnecessary cumbersome.
– thrau
6 hours ago
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Oh, 150 characters per line certainly seems bothersome... I'm still having trouble picturing this format but I can understand your complaint.
– Bryan Krause
6 hours ago
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I would suspect that the publisher has some computer problem, and write an email to their technical staff if the manuscript is actually supposed to look that way. Depending on their answer, you can still forward it to the editor and ask him to ask for a resubmission.
– Karl
4 hours ago