Why did Aragorn call this stranger father?
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At the edge of Fangorn, Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas noticed a man robed in white. After seeing him, Aragorn leapt up and said:
Well, father, what can we do for you? Come be warm, if you are cold!
Why did Aragorn call the stranger father? Did he think he was his father? Or was it something else?
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At the edge of Fangorn, Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas noticed a man robed in white. After seeing him, Aragorn leapt up and said:
Well, father, what can we do for you? Come be warm, if you are cold!
Why did Aragorn call the stranger father? Did he think he was his father? Or was it something else?
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This question, I think, stems from either non-native English speakers (which is of course perfectly fine) or people who are not familiar with this convention in English literature. I was exposed to it by reading literature that was written before I was born, so it's understandable that others don't know it.
– methuseus
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If you find the usage of a word strange, you should probably start by looking it up in the dictionary. Given that the accepted answer basically just quotes a dictionary, one might be inclined to say this is an English language question more than a question that has anything to do with Science Fiction and Fantasy.
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@NotThatGuy Thanks. I will remember it.
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At the edge of Fangorn, Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas noticed a man robed in white. After seeing him, Aragorn leapt up and said:
Well, father, what can we do for you? Come be warm, if you are cold!
Why did Aragorn call the stranger father? Did he think he was his father? Or was it something else?
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At the edge of Fangorn, Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas noticed a man robed in white. After seeing him, Aragorn leapt up and said:
Well, father, what can we do for you? Come be warm, if you are cold!
Why did Aragorn call the stranger father? Did he think he was his father? Or was it something else?
tolkiens-legendarium the-lord-of-the-rings the-two-towers
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This question, I think, stems from either non-native English speakers (which is of course perfectly fine) or people who are not familiar with this convention in English literature. I was exposed to it by reading literature that was written before I was born, so it's understandable that others don't know it.
– methuseus
Dec 9 at 6:17
7
If you find the usage of a word strange, you should probably start by looking it up in the dictionary. Given that the accepted answer basically just quotes a dictionary, one might be inclined to say this is an English language question more than a question that has anything to do with Science Fiction and Fantasy.
– NotThatGuy
Dec 9 at 21:05
@NotThatGuy Thanks. I will remember it.
– the-profile-that-was-promised
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add a comment |
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This question, I think, stems from either non-native English speakers (which is of course perfectly fine) or people who are not familiar with this convention in English literature. I was exposed to it by reading literature that was written before I was born, so it's understandable that others don't know it.
– methuseus
Dec 9 at 6:17
7
If you find the usage of a word strange, you should probably start by looking it up in the dictionary. Given that the accepted answer basically just quotes a dictionary, one might be inclined to say this is an English language question more than a question that has anything to do with Science Fiction and Fantasy.
– NotThatGuy
Dec 9 at 21:05
@NotThatGuy Thanks. I will remember it.
– the-profile-that-was-promised
Dec 10 at 5:01
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This question, I think, stems from either non-native English speakers (which is of course perfectly fine) or people who are not familiar with this convention in English literature. I was exposed to it by reading literature that was written before I was born, so it's understandable that others don't know it.
– methuseus
Dec 9 at 6:17
This question, I think, stems from either non-native English speakers (which is of course perfectly fine) or people who are not familiar with this convention in English literature. I was exposed to it by reading literature that was written before I was born, so it's understandable that others don't know it.
– methuseus
Dec 9 at 6:17
7
7
If you find the usage of a word strange, you should probably start by looking it up in the dictionary. Given that the accepted answer basically just quotes a dictionary, one might be inclined to say this is an English language question more than a question that has anything to do with Science Fiction and Fantasy.
– NotThatGuy
Dec 9 at 21:05
If you find the usage of a word strange, you should probably start by looking it up in the dictionary. Given that the accepted answer basically just quotes a dictionary, one might be inclined to say this is an English language question more than a question that has anything to do with Science Fiction and Fantasy.
– NotThatGuy
Dec 9 at 21:05
@NotThatGuy Thanks. I will remember it.
– the-profile-that-was-promised
Dec 10 at 5:01
@NotThatGuy Thanks. I will remember it.
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Definition 4 of “father” from Collins English Dictionary:
A respectful term of address for an old man.
That is the sense in which Aragorn uses the word, he doesn’t think that the old man is actually his father Arathorn, who had died over eighty years earlier.
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The same as an old man might call a much younger man "son", without implying any actual relationship.
– DevSolar
Dec 7 at 10:23
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Given OP is from Bangladesh, this would be similar to calling older people "aunty" or "uncle", even when they're not your aunt or uncle.
– J...
Dec 7 at 13:09
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@Taladris It’s somewhat archaic, and wouldn’t generally be used in everyday speech. Tolkien learned his English over a century ago, after all.
– Mike Scott
Dec 9 at 7:08
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@Taladris I wouldn't use this today. I'd say it's most likely to cause confusion and possibly even offence -- there's usually no reason to address somebody in a way that draws attention to their age, so people will wonder why you're doing that.
– David Richerby
Dec 9 at 13:46
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@Mike Not only was Tolkien born much earlier than we were, but he was writing a story set not in the country and time he lived in, but a somewhat similar, fictional place with older/more formal forms of address and expression as a matter of style to evoke a particular feel (it wasn't 20th century England, but something that represented somewhat of a mythological parallel, much earlier). Some of what he was writing would be (deliberately) archaic for him, let alone us.
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Definition 4 of “father” from Collins English Dictionary:
A respectful term of address for an old man.
That is the sense in which Aragorn uses the word, he doesn’t think that the old man is actually his father Arathorn, who had died over eighty years earlier.
answered Dec 7 at 6:36
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The same as an old man might call a much younger man "son", without implying any actual relationship.
– DevSolar
Dec 7 at 10:23
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Given OP is from Bangladesh, this would be similar to calling older people "aunty" or "uncle", even when they're not your aunt or uncle.
– J...
Dec 7 at 13:09
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@Taladris It’s somewhat archaic, and wouldn’t generally be used in everyday speech. Tolkien learned his English over a century ago, after all.
– Mike Scott
Dec 9 at 7:08
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@Taladris I wouldn't use this today. I'd say it's most likely to cause confusion and possibly even offence -- there's usually no reason to address somebody in a way that draws attention to their age, so people will wonder why you're doing that.
– David Richerby
Dec 9 at 13:46
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@Mike Not only was Tolkien born much earlier than we were, but he was writing a story set not in the country and time he lived in, but a somewhat similar, fictional place with older/more formal forms of address and expression as a matter of style to evoke a particular feel (it wasn't 20th century England, but something that represented somewhat of a mythological parallel, much earlier). Some of what he was writing would be (deliberately) archaic for him, let alone us.
– Glen_b
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Definition 4 of “father” from Collins English Dictionary:
A respectful term of address for an old man.
That is the sense in which Aragorn uses the word, he doesn’t think that the old man is actually his father Arathorn, who had died over eighty years earlier.
answered Dec 7 at 6:36
Mike Scott
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The same as an old man might call a much younger man "son", without implying any actual relationship.
– DevSolar
Dec 7 at 10:23
56
Given OP is from Bangladesh, this would be similar to calling older people "aunty" or "uncle", even when they're not your aunt or uncle.
– J...
Dec 7 at 13:09
9
@Taladris It’s somewhat archaic, and wouldn’t generally be used in everyday speech. Tolkien learned his English over a century ago, after all.
– Mike Scott
Dec 9 at 7:08
4
@Taladris I wouldn't use this today. I'd say it's most likely to cause confusion and possibly even offence -- there's usually no reason to address somebody in a way that draws attention to their age, so people will wonder why you're doing that.
– David Richerby
Dec 9 at 13:46
8
@Mike Not only was Tolkien born much earlier than we were, but he was writing a story set not in the country and time he lived in, but a somewhat similar, fictional place with older/more formal forms of address and expression as a matter of style to evoke a particular feel (it wasn't 20th century England, but something that represented somewhat of a mythological parallel, much earlier). Some of what he was writing would be (deliberately) archaic for him, let alone us.
– Glen_b
Dec 10 at 9:17
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up vote
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Definition 4 of “father” from Collins English Dictionary:
A respectful term of address for an old man.
That is the sense in which Aragorn uses the word, he doesn’t think that the old man is actually his father Arathorn, who had died over eighty years earlier.
answered Dec 7 at 6:36
Mike Scott
49.4k4155202
Definition 4 of “father” from Collins English Dictionary:
A respectful term of address for an old man.
That is the sense in which Aragorn uses the word, he doesn’t think that the old man is actually his father Arathorn, who had died over eighty years earlier.
answered Dec 7 at 6:36
Mike Scott
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answered Dec 7 at 6:36
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answered Dec 7 at 6:36
Mike Scott
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answered Dec 7 at 6:36
Mike Scott
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The same as an old man might call a much younger man "son", without implying any actual relationship.
– DevSolar
Dec 7 at 10:23
56
Given OP is from Bangladesh, this would be similar to calling older people "aunty" or "uncle", even when they're not your aunt or uncle.
– J...
Dec 7 at 13:09
9
@Taladris It’s somewhat archaic, and wouldn’t generally be used in everyday speech. Tolkien learned his English over a century ago, after all.
– Mike Scott
Dec 9 at 7:08
4
@Taladris I wouldn't use this today. I'd say it's most likely to cause confusion and possibly even offence -- there's usually no reason to address somebody in a way that draws attention to their age, so people will wonder why you're doing that.
– David Richerby
Dec 9 at 13:46
8
@Mike Not only was Tolkien born much earlier than we were, but he was writing a story set not in the country and time he lived in, but a somewhat similar, fictional place with older/more formal forms of address and expression as a matter of style to evoke a particular feel (it wasn't 20th century England, but something that represented somewhat of a mythological parallel, much earlier). Some of what he was writing would be (deliberately) archaic for him, let alone us.
– Glen_b
Dec 10 at 9:17
|
show 3 more comments
73
The same as an old man might call a much younger man "son", without implying any actual relationship.
– DevSolar
Dec 7 at 10:23
56
Given OP is from Bangladesh, this would be similar to calling older people "aunty" or "uncle", even when they're not your aunt or uncle.
– J...
Dec 7 at 13:09
9
@Taladris It’s somewhat archaic, and wouldn’t generally be used in everyday speech. Tolkien learned his English over a century ago, after all.
– Mike Scott
Dec 9 at 7:08
4
@Taladris I wouldn't use this today. I'd say it's most likely to cause confusion and possibly even offence -- there's usually no reason to address somebody in a way that draws attention to their age, so people will wonder why you're doing that.
– David Richerby
Dec 9 at 13:46
8
@Mike Not only was Tolkien born much earlier than we were, but he was writing a story set not in the country and time he lived in, but a somewhat similar, fictional place with older/more formal forms of address and expression as a matter of style to evoke a particular feel (it wasn't 20th century England, but something that represented somewhat of a mythological parallel, much earlier). Some of what he was writing would be (deliberately) archaic for him, let alone us.
– Glen_b
Dec 10 at 9:17
73
73
The same as an old man might call a much younger man "son", without implying any actual relationship.
– DevSolar
Dec 7 at 10:23
The same as an old man might call a much younger man "son", without implying any actual relationship.
– DevSolar
Dec 7 at 10:23
56
56
Given OP is from Bangladesh, this would be similar to calling older people "aunty" or "uncle", even when they're not your aunt or uncle.
– J...
Dec 7 at 13:09
Given OP is from Bangladesh, this would be similar to calling older people "aunty" or "uncle", even when they're not your aunt or uncle.
– J...
Dec 7 at 13:09
9
9
@Taladris It’s somewhat archaic, and wouldn’t generally be used in everyday speech. Tolkien learned his English over a century ago, after all.
– Mike Scott
Dec 9 at 7:08
@Taladris It’s somewhat archaic, and wouldn’t generally be used in everyday speech. Tolkien learned his English over a century ago, after all.
– Mike Scott
Dec 9 at 7:08
4
4
@Taladris I wouldn't use this today. I'd say it's most likely to cause confusion and possibly even offence -- there's usually no reason to address somebody in a way that draws attention to their age, so people will wonder why you're doing that.
– David Richerby
Dec 9 at 13:46
@Taladris I wouldn't use this today. I'd say it's most likely to cause confusion and possibly even offence -- there's usually no reason to address somebody in a way that draws attention to their age, so people will wonder why you're doing that.
– David Richerby
Dec 9 at 13:46
8
8
@Mike Not only was Tolkien born much earlier than we were, but he was writing a story set not in the country and time he lived in, but a somewhat similar, fictional place with older/more formal forms of address and expression as a matter of style to evoke a particular feel (it wasn't 20th century England, but something that represented somewhat of a mythological parallel, much earlier). Some of what he was writing would be (deliberately) archaic for him, let alone us.
– Glen_b
Dec 10 at 9:17
@Mike Not only was Tolkien born much earlier than we were, but he was writing a story set not in the country and time he lived in, but a somewhat similar, fictional place with older/more formal forms of address and expression as a matter of style to evoke a particular feel (it wasn't 20th century England, but something that represented somewhat of a mythological parallel, much earlier). Some of what he was writing would be (deliberately) archaic for him, let alone us.
– Glen_b
Dec 10 at 9:17
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This question, I think, stems from either non-native English speakers (which is of course perfectly fine) or people who are not familiar with this convention in English literature. I was exposed to it by reading literature that was written before I was born, so it's understandable that others don't know it.
– methuseus
Dec 9 at 6:17
7
If you find the usage of a word strange, you should probably start by looking it up in the dictionary. Given that the accepted answer basically just quotes a dictionary, one might be inclined to say this is an English language question more than a question that has anything to do with Science Fiction and Fantasy.
– NotThatGuy
Dec 9 at 21:05
@NotThatGuy Thanks. I will remember it.
– the-profile-that-was-promised
Dec 10 at 5:01