How to create an array of values in LibreOffice Calc?











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I'm using LibreOffice 5.1.4.2 Calc and need to calculate the internal rate of return for a certain payment (say, in cell A1), a certain number of times (say, 100).



If I had the value repeated 100 times (say, in A1:A100), I could do:



=IRR(A1:A100)


But it seems odd (what if it's 100,000 times?).



The problem is, the function IIR expects “an array containing the values”.



How can I pass along to IRR an array of the value in A1 repeated 100 times?










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  • I believe I've been confused what you were after here, sorry about that. In your example above do the cells A1:A100 all contain a single fixed payment? That is, the spreadsheet equivalent of { 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 ... 95x ... 7 }. Is your question "What if I needed { 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 ... 100,995x ... 7 } instead"? Now that I read more carefully, that appears to be how Jim DeLaHunt has interpreted the question.
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I'm using LibreOffice 5.1.4.2 Calc and need to calculate the internal rate of return for a certain payment (say, in cell A1), a certain number of times (say, 100).



If I had the value repeated 100 times (say, in A1:A100), I could do:



=IRR(A1:A100)


But it seems odd (what if it's 100,000 times?).



The problem is, the function IIR expects “an array containing the values”.



How can I pass along to IRR an array of the value in A1 repeated 100 times?










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  • I believe I've been confused what you were after here, sorry about that. In your example above do the cells A1:A100 all contain a single fixed payment? That is, the spreadsheet equivalent of { 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 ... 95x ... 7 }. Is your question "What if I needed { 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 ... 100,995x ... 7 } instead"? Now that I read more carefully, that appears to be how Jim DeLaHunt has interpreted the question.
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I'm using LibreOffice 5.1.4.2 Calc and need to calculate the internal rate of return for a certain payment (say, in cell A1), a certain number of times (say, 100).



If I had the value repeated 100 times (say, in A1:A100), I could do:



=IRR(A1:A100)


But it seems odd (what if it's 100,000 times?).



The problem is, the function IIR expects “an array containing the values”.



How can I pass along to IRR an array of the value in A1 repeated 100 times?










share|improve this question













I'm using LibreOffice 5.1.4.2 Calc and need to calculate the internal rate of return for a certain payment (say, in cell A1), a certain number of times (say, 100).



If I had the value repeated 100 times (say, in A1:A100), I could do:



=IRR(A1:A100)


But it seems odd (what if it's 100,000 times?).



The problem is, the function IIR expects “an array containing the values”.



How can I pass along to IRR an array of the value in A1 repeated 100 times?







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  • I believe I've been confused what you were after here, sorry about that. In your example above do the cells A1:A100 all contain a single fixed payment? That is, the spreadsheet equivalent of { 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 ... 95x ... 7 }. Is your question "What if I needed { 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 ... 100,995x ... 7 } instead"? Now that I read more carefully, that appears to be how Jim DeLaHunt has interpreted the question.
    – kwutchak
    Nov 23 at 19:48




















  • I believe I've been confused what you were after here, sorry about that. In your example above do the cells A1:A100 all contain a single fixed payment? That is, the spreadsheet equivalent of { 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 ... 95x ... 7 }. Is your question "What if I needed { 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 ... 100,995x ... 7 } instead"? Now that I read more carefully, that appears to be how Jim DeLaHunt has interpreted the question.
    – kwutchak
    Nov 23 at 19:48


















I believe I've been confused what you were after here, sorry about that. In your example above do the cells A1:A100 all contain a single fixed payment? That is, the spreadsheet equivalent of { 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 ... 95x ... 7 }. Is your question "What if I needed { 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 ... 100,995x ... 7 } instead"? Now that I read more carefully, that appears to be how Jim DeLaHunt has interpreted the question.
– kwutchak
Nov 23 at 19:48






I believe I've been confused what you were after here, sorry about that. In your example above do the cells A1:A100 all contain a single fixed payment? That is, the spreadsheet equivalent of { 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 ... 95x ... 7 }. Is your question "What if I needed { 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 ... 100,995x ... 7 } instead"? Now that I read more carefully, that appears to be how Jim DeLaHunt has interpreted the question.
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I think you are asking Libreoffice Calc to do something it cannot do.



In LibreOffice Calc, an array is a "a linked range of cells on a spreadsheet containing values" (per Help article Array Functions). There is such a thing as an "Inline Array Constant", but that's for putting values into an array. IRR() is not an array function, it is a single-valued function which takes an array as an argument.



I think LibreOffice Calc wants to you allocate those 100 (or 100,000) cells with the same value.



You can populate the cells in various ways. I would put the value in the first cell, then give the second cell a formula that read from the first cell with an absolute reference, then fill that second cell down 100 (or 100,000) times to get the array I needed. All I have to change is the value in the first cell, and it gets propagated through the array.



If you really want to type a concise formula to calculate the Internal Rate of Return for 100,000 payments of the same amount, maybe LibreOffice isn't the best tool for the job. It's a spreadsheet. A programming language, like the Python language and the numpy.irr() function, might work better.






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  • Thank you, @jim-delahunt. I still find it odd that there's no elegant way to do what I need (without actually using n cells), so I'm not accepting your answer as the good one just yet, in case someone else weighs in on this.
    – tripu
    Jul 7 '17 at 13:45


















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Yes, it is possible to write the array directly in your formula.

Calc refers to this as an "inline array constant".



A simple 3x2 example is



{1;2;3|"a";"b";"c"}.


Calc's Documentation has full details...






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  • Again, my problem is that I may need to use a very long array. Imagine 300x2,000 instead. This syntax doesn't help with that.
    – tripu
    Nov 20 at 23:22


















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Write a function which creates a repeating array based on cells in the spreadsheet.



I haven't written any code for Calc, so I'm not familiar with the syntax used, but in pseudo-code:



function repeat( value, amount ) -> { value | value | value ... value } 


... then call this code from IRR.



Alternatively, create a function that does everything:



function repeatIrr( value, amount ) -> value


... and call that from the spreadsheet.






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  • @tripu I assume this isn't what you are personally after (feel free to correct me on that!). I'm adding this answer in as it would be a solution, and may be acceptable to someone in a similar situation.
    – kwutchak
    Nov 23 at 20:05










  • ... personally if somebody else is interested in filling in the implementation details for Calc in this solution I'd love to see them!
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I think you are asking Libreoffice Calc to do something it cannot do.



In LibreOffice Calc, an array is a "a linked range of cells on a spreadsheet containing values" (per Help article Array Functions). There is such a thing as an "Inline Array Constant", but that's for putting values into an array. IRR() is not an array function, it is a single-valued function which takes an array as an argument.



I think LibreOffice Calc wants to you allocate those 100 (or 100,000) cells with the same value.



You can populate the cells in various ways. I would put the value in the first cell, then give the second cell a formula that read from the first cell with an absolute reference, then fill that second cell down 100 (or 100,000) times to get the array I needed. All I have to change is the value in the first cell, and it gets propagated through the array.



If you really want to type a concise formula to calculate the Internal Rate of Return for 100,000 payments of the same amount, maybe LibreOffice isn't the best tool for the job. It's a spreadsheet. A programming language, like the Python language and the numpy.irr() function, might work better.






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  • Thank you, @jim-delahunt. I still find it odd that there's no elegant way to do what I need (without actually using n cells), so I'm not accepting your answer as the good one just yet, in case someone else weighs in on this.
    – tripu
    Jul 7 '17 at 13:45















up vote
2
down vote













I think you are asking Libreoffice Calc to do something it cannot do.



In LibreOffice Calc, an array is a "a linked range of cells on a spreadsheet containing values" (per Help article Array Functions). There is such a thing as an "Inline Array Constant", but that's for putting values into an array. IRR() is not an array function, it is a single-valued function which takes an array as an argument.



I think LibreOffice Calc wants to you allocate those 100 (or 100,000) cells with the same value.



You can populate the cells in various ways. I would put the value in the first cell, then give the second cell a formula that read from the first cell with an absolute reference, then fill that second cell down 100 (or 100,000) times to get the array I needed. All I have to change is the value in the first cell, and it gets propagated through the array.



If you really want to type a concise formula to calculate the Internal Rate of Return for 100,000 payments of the same amount, maybe LibreOffice isn't the best tool for the job. It's a spreadsheet. A programming language, like the Python language and the numpy.irr() function, might work better.






share|improve this answer





















  • Thank you, @jim-delahunt. I still find it odd that there's no elegant way to do what I need (without actually using n cells), so I'm not accepting your answer as the good one just yet, in case someone else weighs in on this.
    – tripu
    Jul 7 '17 at 13:45













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I think you are asking Libreoffice Calc to do something it cannot do.



In LibreOffice Calc, an array is a "a linked range of cells on a spreadsheet containing values" (per Help article Array Functions). There is such a thing as an "Inline Array Constant", but that's for putting values into an array. IRR() is not an array function, it is a single-valued function which takes an array as an argument.



I think LibreOffice Calc wants to you allocate those 100 (or 100,000) cells with the same value.



You can populate the cells in various ways. I would put the value in the first cell, then give the second cell a formula that read from the first cell with an absolute reference, then fill that second cell down 100 (or 100,000) times to get the array I needed. All I have to change is the value in the first cell, and it gets propagated through the array.



If you really want to type a concise formula to calculate the Internal Rate of Return for 100,000 payments of the same amount, maybe LibreOffice isn't the best tool for the job. It's a spreadsheet. A programming language, like the Python language and the numpy.irr() function, might work better.






share|improve this answer












I think you are asking Libreoffice Calc to do something it cannot do.



In LibreOffice Calc, an array is a "a linked range of cells on a spreadsheet containing values" (per Help article Array Functions). There is such a thing as an "Inline Array Constant", but that's for putting values into an array. IRR() is not an array function, it is a single-valued function which takes an array as an argument.



I think LibreOffice Calc wants to you allocate those 100 (or 100,000) cells with the same value.



You can populate the cells in various ways. I would put the value in the first cell, then give the second cell a formula that read from the first cell with an absolute reference, then fill that second cell down 100 (or 100,000) times to get the array I needed. All I have to change is the value in the first cell, and it gets propagated through the array.



If you really want to type a concise formula to calculate the Internal Rate of Return for 100,000 payments of the same amount, maybe LibreOffice isn't the best tool for the job. It's a spreadsheet. A programming language, like the Python language and the numpy.irr() function, might work better.







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  • Thank you, @jim-delahunt. I still find it odd that there's no elegant way to do what I need (without actually using n cells), so I'm not accepting your answer as the good one just yet, in case someone else weighs in on this.
    – tripu
    Jul 7 '17 at 13:45


















  • Thank you, @jim-delahunt. I still find it odd that there's no elegant way to do what I need (without actually using n cells), so I'm not accepting your answer as the good one just yet, in case someone else weighs in on this.
    – tripu
    Jul 7 '17 at 13:45
















Thank you, @jim-delahunt. I still find it odd that there's no elegant way to do what I need (without actually using n cells), so I'm not accepting your answer as the good one just yet, in case someone else weighs in on this.
– tripu
Jul 7 '17 at 13:45




Thank you, @jim-delahunt. I still find it odd that there's no elegant way to do what I need (without actually using n cells), so I'm not accepting your answer as the good one just yet, in case someone else weighs in on this.
– tripu
Jul 7 '17 at 13:45












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Yes, it is possible to write the array directly in your formula.

Calc refers to this as an "inline array constant".



A simple 3x2 example is



{1;2;3|"a";"b";"c"}.


Calc's Documentation has full details...






share|improve this answer























  • Again, my problem is that I may need to use a very long array. Imagine 300x2,000 instead. This syntax doesn't help with that.
    – tripu
    Nov 20 at 23:22















up vote
1
down vote













Yes, it is possible to write the array directly in your formula.

Calc refers to this as an "inline array constant".



A simple 3x2 example is



{1;2;3|"a";"b";"c"}.


Calc's Documentation has full details...






share|improve this answer























  • Again, my problem is that I may need to use a very long array. Imagine 300x2,000 instead. This syntax doesn't help with that.
    – tripu
    Nov 20 at 23:22













up vote
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up vote
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Yes, it is possible to write the array directly in your formula.

Calc refers to this as an "inline array constant".



A simple 3x2 example is



{1;2;3|"a";"b";"c"}.


Calc's Documentation has full details...






share|improve this answer














Yes, it is possible to write the array directly in your formula.

Calc refers to this as an "inline array constant".



A simple 3x2 example is



{1;2;3|"a";"b";"c"}.


Calc's Documentation has full details...







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  • Again, my problem is that I may need to use a very long array. Imagine 300x2,000 instead. This syntax doesn't help with that.
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  • Again, my problem is that I may need to use a very long array. Imagine 300x2,000 instead. This syntax doesn't help with that.
    – tripu
    Nov 20 at 23:22
















Again, my problem is that I may need to use a very long array. Imagine 300x2,000 instead. This syntax doesn't help with that.
– tripu
Nov 20 at 23:22




Again, my problem is that I may need to use a very long array. Imagine 300x2,000 instead. This syntax doesn't help with that.
– tripu
Nov 20 at 23:22










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Write a function which creates a repeating array based on cells in the spreadsheet.



I haven't written any code for Calc, so I'm not familiar with the syntax used, but in pseudo-code:



function repeat( value, amount ) -> { value | value | value ... value } 


... then call this code from IRR.



Alternatively, create a function that does everything:



function repeatIrr( value, amount ) -> value


... and call that from the spreadsheet.






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  • @tripu I assume this isn't what you are personally after (feel free to correct me on that!). I'm adding this answer in as it would be a solution, and may be acceptable to someone in a similar situation.
    – kwutchak
    Nov 23 at 20:05










  • ... personally if somebody else is interested in filling in the implementation details for Calc in this solution I'd love to see them!
    – kwutchak
    Nov 23 at 20:07















up vote
0
down vote













Write a function which creates a repeating array based on cells in the spreadsheet.



I haven't written any code for Calc, so I'm not familiar with the syntax used, but in pseudo-code:



function repeat( value, amount ) -> { value | value | value ... value } 


... then call this code from IRR.



Alternatively, create a function that does everything:



function repeatIrr( value, amount ) -> value


... and call that from the spreadsheet.






share|improve this answer





















  • @tripu I assume this isn't what you are personally after (feel free to correct me on that!). I'm adding this answer in as it would be a solution, and may be acceptable to someone in a similar situation.
    – kwutchak
    Nov 23 at 20:05










  • ... personally if somebody else is interested in filling in the implementation details for Calc in this solution I'd love to see them!
    – kwutchak
    Nov 23 at 20:07













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up vote
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Write a function which creates a repeating array based on cells in the spreadsheet.



I haven't written any code for Calc, so I'm not familiar with the syntax used, but in pseudo-code:



function repeat( value, amount ) -> { value | value | value ... value } 


... then call this code from IRR.



Alternatively, create a function that does everything:



function repeatIrr( value, amount ) -> value


... and call that from the spreadsheet.






share|improve this answer












Write a function which creates a repeating array based on cells in the spreadsheet.



I haven't written any code for Calc, so I'm not familiar with the syntax used, but in pseudo-code:



function repeat( value, amount ) -> { value | value | value ... value } 


... then call this code from IRR.



Alternatively, create a function that does everything:



function repeatIrr( value, amount ) -> value


... and call that from the spreadsheet.







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  • @tripu I assume this isn't what you are personally after (feel free to correct me on that!). I'm adding this answer in as it would be a solution, and may be acceptable to someone in a similar situation.
    – kwutchak
    Nov 23 at 20:05










  • ... personally if somebody else is interested in filling in the implementation details for Calc in this solution I'd love to see them!
    – kwutchak
    Nov 23 at 20:07


















  • @tripu I assume this isn't what you are personally after (feel free to correct me on that!). I'm adding this answer in as it would be a solution, and may be acceptable to someone in a similar situation.
    – kwutchak
    Nov 23 at 20:05










  • ... personally if somebody else is interested in filling in the implementation details for Calc in this solution I'd love to see them!
    – kwutchak
    Nov 23 at 20:07
















@tripu I assume this isn't what you are personally after (feel free to correct me on that!). I'm adding this answer in as it would be a solution, and may be acceptable to someone in a similar situation.
– kwutchak
Nov 23 at 20:05




@tripu I assume this isn't what you are personally after (feel free to correct me on that!). I'm adding this answer in as it would be a solution, and may be acceptable to someone in a similar situation.
– kwutchak
Nov 23 at 20:05












... personally if somebody else is interested in filling in the implementation details for Calc in this solution I'd love to see them!
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... personally if somebody else is interested in filling in the implementation details for Calc in this solution I'd love to see them!
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