How to access Alt-Gr in Windows mode in a Kinesis Advantage keyboard?
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On page 39 of the Kinesis Advantage keyboard manual it say:
When a non-US keyboard driver is selected, the right Alt key on a
traditional keyboard becomes a new kind of modifier, “Alt Gr.” Alt Gr
creates a third key action (in addition to unshifted and shifted) for
certain keys, including the “International key” for some languages. If
you need to use Alt Gr key action with the Advantage MPC USB keyboard,
it is advisable to set “Instant Configuration” for PC (non-Windows) so
that there is a readily accessible Alt Gr key (located above the Page
Up key). If you prefer to use the Windows “Instant Configuration”
setting, the Alt Gr key action is the embedded left Alt key (above
Home). To use this key easily, remap it to a top level location.
I'm using the Windows instant configuration but I cannot figure out what it means by Alt Gr being embedded in the left Alt key. Does anybody know? I want to remap it so I have access to Alt Gr.
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On page 39 of the Kinesis Advantage keyboard manual it say:
When a non-US keyboard driver is selected, the right Alt key on a
traditional keyboard becomes a new kind of modifier, “Alt Gr.” Alt Gr
creates a third key action (in addition to unshifted and shifted) for
certain keys, including the “International key” for some languages. If
you need to use Alt Gr key action with the Advantage MPC USB keyboard,
it is advisable to set “Instant Configuration” for PC (non-Windows) so
that there is a readily accessible Alt Gr key (located above the Page
Up key). If you prefer to use the Windows “Instant Configuration”
setting, the Alt Gr key action is the embedded left Alt key (above
Home). To use this key easily, remap it to a top level location.
I'm using the Windows instant configuration but I cannot figure out what it means by Alt Gr being embedded in the left Alt key. Does anybody know? I want to remap it so I have access to Alt Gr.
keyboard remapping kinesis-advantage
edited Oct 19 at 21:00
fixer1234
17.4k144281
asked Oct 18 at 10:47
pupeno
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Does pressing the "Alt Option" button above End & Home not work? Or the windows logo / cloverleaf button above PageUp? Just remapping might've been answered here (but 10 years ago) stackoverflow.com/questions/229633/… and on superuser this Q looks very similar (but has no answers & spontaneously resolved) superuser.com/questions/1225911/…
– Xen2050
Oct 18 at 11:05
In Windows mode, the keys above Home and End are Ctrl and Let Alt. None are Right Alt (Alt Gr). I am remapping keys so they are where I want them, but the remapping prodecure is to tap the key you want and then where you want it, and in Windows mode I cannot find Alt Gr anywhere in the keyboard to remap it.
– pupeno
Oct 18 at 11:45
@pupeno, I haven't personally dealt with this, so it's just a guess. On US keyboards that contain duplicate "control" keys (Shift, Ctrl, Alt) on both the left and right side of the "typewriter" block of keys, the Alt key on the right side is the key labeled Alt-Gr on European keyboards. I believe only the keycap identification is different, the key generates the same keycode as Alt-Gr.
– fixer1234
Oct 19 at 21:14
@pupeno, just stumbled across an old post and remembered your question. Someone wrote that AltGr is equivalent to Ctrl+Alt, so one more thing to try. Also, rereading the quotation in your question, Kinesis isn't very clear. It almost sounds like they're saying that they made the Left Alt the code-equivalent of the AltGr key. Anyway, don't know if any of that is helpful, but good luck.
– fixer1234
Oct 30 at 5:38
The manual is unclear. Maybe you could consider contacting product support to get better explanation. But you can achieve AltGr either by pressing Ctrl+Alt or you can remap International Key (see the manual) to act as AltGr using AutoHotKey.
– miroxlav
Nov 18 at 23:38
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On page 39 of the Kinesis Advantage keyboard manual it say:
When a non-US keyboard driver is selected, the right Alt key on a
traditional keyboard becomes a new kind of modifier, “Alt Gr.” Alt Gr
creates a third key action (in addition to unshifted and shifted) for
certain keys, including the “International key” for some languages. If
you need to use Alt Gr key action with the Advantage MPC USB keyboard,
it is advisable to set “Instant Configuration” for PC (non-Windows) so
that there is a readily accessible Alt Gr key (located above the Page
Up key). If you prefer to use the Windows “Instant Configuration”
setting, the Alt Gr key action is the embedded left Alt key (above
Home). To use this key easily, remap it to a top level location.
I'm using the Windows instant configuration but I cannot figure out what it means by Alt Gr being embedded in the left Alt key. Does anybody know? I want to remap it so I have access to Alt Gr.
keyboard remapping kinesis-advantage
edited Oct 19 at 21:00
fixer1234
17.4k144281
asked Oct 18 at 10:47
pupeno
4,060135279
On page 39 of the Kinesis Advantage keyboard manual it say:
When a non-US keyboard driver is selected, the right Alt key on a
traditional keyboard becomes a new kind of modifier, “Alt Gr.” Alt Gr
creates a third key action (in addition to unshifted and shifted) for
certain keys, including the “International key” for some languages. If
you need to use Alt Gr key action with the Advantage MPC USB keyboard,
it is advisable to set “Instant Configuration” for PC (non-Windows) so
that there is a readily accessible Alt Gr key (located above the Page
Up key). If you prefer to use the Windows “Instant Configuration”
setting, the Alt Gr key action is the embedded left Alt key (above
Home). To use this key easily, remap it to a top level location.
I'm using the Windows instant configuration but I cannot figure out what it means by Alt Gr being embedded in the left Alt key. Does anybody know? I want to remap it so I have access to Alt Gr.
keyboard remapping kinesis-advantage
keyboard remapping kinesis-advantage
edited Oct 19 at 21:00
fixer1234
17.4k144281
asked Oct 18 at 10:47
pupeno
4,060135279
edited Oct 19 at 21:00
fixer1234
17.4k144281
asked Oct 18 at 10:47
pupeno
4,060135279
edited Oct 19 at 21:00
fixer1234
17.4k144281
edited Oct 19 at 21:00
fixer1234
17.4k144281
edited Oct 19 at 21:00
fixer1234
17.4k144281
17.4k144281
asked Oct 18 at 10:47
pupeno
4,060135279
asked Oct 18 at 10:47
pupeno
4,060135279
asked Oct 18 at 10:47
pupeno
4,060135279
4,060135279
Does pressing the "Alt Option" button above End & Home not work? Or the windows logo / cloverleaf button above PageUp? Just remapping might've been answered here (but 10 years ago) stackoverflow.com/questions/229633/… and on superuser this Q looks very similar (but has no answers & spontaneously resolved) superuser.com/questions/1225911/…
– Xen2050
Oct 18 at 11:05
In Windows mode, the keys above Home and End are Ctrl and Let Alt. None are Right Alt (Alt Gr). I am remapping keys so they are where I want them, but the remapping prodecure is to tap the key you want and then where you want it, and in Windows mode I cannot find Alt Gr anywhere in the keyboard to remap it.
– pupeno
Oct 18 at 11:45
@pupeno, I haven't personally dealt with this, so it's just a guess. On US keyboards that contain duplicate "control" keys (Shift, Ctrl, Alt) on both the left and right side of the "typewriter" block of keys, the Alt key on the right side is the key labeled Alt-Gr on European keyboards. I believe only the keycap identification is different, the key generates the same keycode as Alt-Gr.
– fixer1234
Oct 19 at 21:14
@pupeno, just stumbled across an old post and remembered your question. Someone wrote that AltGr is equivalent to Ctrl+Alt, so one more thing to try. Also, rereading the quotation in your question, Kinesis isn't very clear. It almost sounds like they're saying that they made the Left Alt the code-equivalent of the AltGr key. Anyway, don't know if any of that is helpful, but good luck.
– fixer1234
Oct 30 at 5:38
The manual is unclear. Maybe you could consider contacting product support to get better explanation. But you can achieve AltGr either by pressing Ctrl+Alt or you can remap International Key (see the manual) to act as AltGr using AutoHotKey.
– miroxlav
Nov 18 at 23:38
|
show 1 more comment
Does pressing the "Alt Option" button above End & Home not work? Or the windows logo / cloverleaf button above PageUp? Just remapping might've been answered here (but 10 years ago) stackoverflow.com/questions/229633/… and on superuser this Q looks very similar (but has no answers & spontaneously resolved) superuser.com/questions/1225911/…
– Xen2050
Oct 18 at 11:05
In Windows mode, the keys above Home and End are Ctrl and Let Alt. None are Right Alt (Alt Gr). I am remapping keys so they are where I want them, but the remapping prodecure is to tap the key you want and then where you want it, and in Windows mode I cannot find Alt Gr anywhere in the keyboard to remap it.
– pupeno
Oct 18 at 11:45
@pupeno, I haven't personally dealt with this, so it's just a guess. On US keyboards that contain duplicate "control" keys (Shift, Ctrl, Alt) on both the left and right side of the "typewriter" block of keys, the Alt key on the right side is the key labeled Alt-Gr on European keyboards. I believe only the keycap identification is different, the key generates the same keycode as Alt-Gr.
– fixer1234
Oct 19 at 21:14
@pupeno, just stumbled across an old post and remembered your question. Someone wrote that AltGr is equivalent to Ctrl+Alt, so one more thing to try. Also, rereading the quotation in your question, Kinesis isn't very clear. It almost sounds like they're saying that they made the Left Alt the code-equivalent of the AltGr key. Anyway, don't know if any of that is helpful, but good luck.
– fixer1234
Oct 30 at 5:38
The manual is unclear. Maybe you could consider contacting product support to get better explanation. But you can achieve AltGr either by pressing Ctrl+Alt or you can remap International Key (see the manual) to act as AltGr using AutoHotKey.
– miroxlav
Nov 18 at 23:38
Does pressing the "Alt Option" button above End & Home not work? Or the windows logo / cloverleaf button above PageUp? Just remapping might've been answered here (but 10 years ago) stackoverflow.com/questions/229633/… and on superuser this Q looks very similar (but has no answers & spontaneously resolved) superuser.com/questions/1225911/…
– Xen2050
Oct 18 at 11:05
Does pressing the "Alt Option" button above End & Home not work? Or the windows logo / cloverleaf button above PageUp? Just remapping might've been answered here (but 10 years ago) stackoverflow.com/questions/229633/… and on superuser this Q looks very similar (but has no answers & spontaneously resolved) superuser.com/questions/1225911/…
– Xen2050
Oct 18 at 11:05
In Windows mode, the keys above Home and End are Ctrl and Let Alt. None are Right Alt (Alt Gr). I am remapping keys so they are where I want them, but the remapping prodecure is to tap the key you want and then where you want it, and in Windows mode I cannot find Alt Gr anywhere in the keyboard to remap it.
– pupeno
Oct 18 at 11:45
In Windows mode, the keys above Home and End are Ctrl and Let Alt. None are Right Alt (Alt Gr). I am remapping keys so they are where I want them, but the remapping prodecure is to tap the key you want and then where you want it, and in Windows mode I cannot find Alt Gr anywhere in the keyboard to remap it.
– pupeno
Oct 18 at 11:45
@pupeno, I haven't personally dealt with this, so it's just a guess. On US keyboards that contain duplicate "control" keys (Shift, Ctrl, Alt) on both the left and right side of the "typewriter" block of keys, the Alt key on the right side is the key labeled Alt-Gr on European keyboards. I believe only the keycap identification is different, the key generates the same keycode as Alt-Gr.
– fixer1234
Oct 19 at 21:14
@pupeno, I haven't personally dealt with this, so it's just a guess. On US keyboards that contain duplicate "control" keys (Shift, Ctrl, Alt) on both the left and right side of the "typewriter" block of keys, the Alt key on the right side is the key labeled Alt-Gr on European keyboards. I believe only the keycap identification is different, the key generates the same keycode as Alt-Gr.
– fixer1234
Oct 19 at 21:14
@pupeno, just stumbled across an old post and remembered your question. Someone wrote that AltGr is equivalent to Ctrl+Alt, so one more thing to try. Also, rereading the quotation in your question, Kinesis isn't very clear. It almost sounds like they're saying that they made the Left Alt the code-equivalent of the AltGr key. Anyway, don't know if any of that is helpful, but good luck.
– fixer1234
Oct 30 at 5:38
@pupeno, just stumbled across an old post and remembered your question. Someone wrote that AltGr is equivalent to Ctrl+Alt, so one more thing to try. Also, rereading the quotation in your question, Kinesis isn't very clear. It almost sounds like they're saying that they made the Left Alt the code-equivalent of the AltGr key. Anyway, don't know if any of that is helpful, but good luck.
– fixer1234
Oct 30 at 5:38
The manual is unclear. Maybe you could consider contacting product support to get better explanation. But you can achieve AltGr either by pressing Ctrl+Alt or you can remap International Key (see the manual) to act as AltGr using AutoHotKey.
– miroxlav
Nov 18 at 23:38
The manual is unclear. Maybe you could consider contacting product support to get better explanation. But you can achieve AltGr either by pressing Ctrl+Alt or you can remap International Key (see the manual) to act as AltGr using AutoHotKey.
– miroxlav
Nov 18 at 23:38
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I talked to Kinesis support which was amazing, way beyond anything I expected, specially since I bought my three keyboards about 10 years ago and they are now discontinued.
What I've learn though was that Alt-Gr is not available on Windows mode and on non-Windows PC mode it cannot be remapped to another key because it's special. This means that the only way to get access to Alt-Gr is in PC mode and on that key. They also confirmed this is the case for their new Kinesis Advantage 2.
answered Nov 19 at 9:06
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but you can try AutoHotKey key remappingvkE2sc056::RAlt(for International Key) or at leastInsert::RAltand the result can be amazing. :)
– miroxlav
Nov 19 at 9:34
@miroxlav: yeah, once you start playing with software, you can pretty much do whatever you want.
– pupeno
Nov 19 at 10:07
Sure. If you will really start missing AltGr, remind yourself of the above note which brings it back.
– miroxlav
Nov 19 at 10:09
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I talked to Kinesis support which was amazing, way beyond anything I expected, specially since I bought my three keyboards about 10 years ago and they are now discontinued.
What I've learn though was that Alt-Gr is not available on Windows mode and on non-Windows PC mode it cannot be remapped to another key because it's special. This means that the only way to get access to Alt-Gr is in PC mode and on that key. They also confirmed this is the case for their new Kinesis Advantage 2.
answered Nov 19 at 9:06
pupeno
4,060135279
but you can try AutoHotKey key remappingvkE2sc056::RAlt(for International Key) or at leastInsert::RAltand the result can be amazing. :)
– miroxlav
Nov 19 at 9:34
@miroxlav: yeah, once you start playing with software, you can pretty much do whatever you want.
– pupeno
Nov 19 at 10:07
Sure. If you will really start missing AltGr, remind yourself of the above note which brings it back.
– miroxlav
Nov 19 at 10:09
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
accepted
I talked to Kinesis support which was amazing, way beyond anything I expected, specially since I bought my three keyboards about 10 years ago and they are now discontinued.
What I've learn though was that Alt-Gr is not available on Windows mode and on non-Windows PC mode it cannot be remapped to another key because it's special. This means that the only way to get access to Alt-Gr is in PC mode and on that key. They also confirmed this is the case for their new Kinesis Advantage 2.
answered Nov 19 at 9:06
pupeno
4,060135279
but you can try AutoHotKey key remappingvkE2sc056::RAlt(for International Key) or at leastInsert::RAltand the result can be amazing. :)
– miroxlav
Nov 19 at 9:34
@miroxlav: yeah, once you start playing with software, you can pretty much do whatever you want.
– pupeno
Nov 19 at 10:07
Sure. If you will really start missing AltGr, remind yourself of the above note which brings it back.
– miroxlav
Nov 19 at 10:09
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
accepted
up vote
0
down vote
accepted
I talked to Kinesis support which was amazing, way beyond anything I expected, specially since I bought my three keyboards about 10 years ago and they are now discontinued.
What I've learn though was that Alt-Gr is not available on Windows mode and on non-Windows PC mode it cannot be remapped to another key because it's special. This means that the only way to get access to Alt-Gr is in PC mode and on that key. They also confirmed this is the case for their new Kinesis Advantage 2.
answered Nov 19 at 9:06
pupeno
4,060135279
I talked to Kinesis support which was amazing, way beyond anything I expected, specially since I bought my three keyboards about 10 years ago and they are now discontinued.
What I've learn though was that Alt-Gr is not available on Windows mode and on non-Windows PC mode it cannot be remapped to another key because it's special. This means that the only way to get access to Alt-Gr is in PC mode and on that key. They also confirmed this is the case for their new Kinesis Advantage 2.
answered Nov 19 at 9:06
pupeno
4,060135279
answered Nov 19 at 9:06
pupeno
4,060135279
answered Nov 19 at 9:06
pupeno
4,060135279
answered Nov 19 at 9:06
pupeno
4,060135279
4,060135279
but you can try AutoHotKey key remappingvkE2sc056::RAlt(for International Key) or at leastInsert::RAltand the result can be amazing. :)
– miroxlav
Nov 19 at 9:34
@miroxlav: yeah, once you start playing with software, you can pretty much do whatever you want.
– pupeno
Nov 19 at 10:07
Sure. If you will really start missing AltGr, remind yourself of the above note which brings it back.
– miroxlav
Nov 19 at 10:09
add a comment |
but you can try AutoHotKey key remappingvkE2sc056::RAlt(for International Key) or at leastInsert::RAltand the result can be amazing. :)
– miroxlav
Nov 19 at 9:34
@miroxlav: yeah, once you start playing with software, you can pretty much do whatever you want.
– pupeno
Nov 19 at 10:07
Sure. If you will really start missing AltGr, remind yourself of the above note which brings it back.
– miroxlav
Nov 19 at 10:09
but you can try AutoHotKey key remapping
vkE2sc056::RAlt (for International Key) or at least Insert::RAlt and the result can be amazing. :)– miroxlav
Nov 19 at 9:34
but you can try AutoHotKey key remapping
vkE2sc056::RAlt (for International Key) or at least Insert::RAlt and the result can be amazing. :)– miroxlav
Nov 19 at 9:34
@miroxlav: yeah, once you start playing with software, you can pretty much do whatever you want.
– pupeno
Nov 19 at 10:07
@miroxlav: yeah, once you start playing with software, you can pretty much do whatever you want.
– pupeno
Nov 19 at 10:07
Sure. If you will really start missing AltGr, remind yourself of the above note which brings it back.
– miroxlav
Nov 19 at 10:09
Sure. If you will really start missing AltGr, remind yourself of the above note which brings it back.
– miroxlav
Nov 19 at 10:09
add a comment |
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Does pressing the "Alt Option" button above End & Home not work? Or the windows logo / cloverleaf button above PageUp? Just remapping might've been answered here (but 10 years ago) stackoverflow.com/questions/229633/… and on superuser this Q looks very similar (but has no answers & spontaneously resolved) superuser.com/questions/1225911/…
– Xen2050
Oct 18 at 11:05
In Windows mode, the keys above Home and End are Ctrl and Let Alt. None are Right Alt (Alt Gr). I am remapping keys so they are where I want them, but the remapping prodecure is to tap the key you want and then where you want it, and in Windows mode I cannot find Alt Gr anywhere in the keyboard to remap it.
– pupeno
Oct 18 at 11:45
@pupeno, I haven't personally dealt with this, so it's just a guess. On US keyboards that contain duplicate "control" keys (Shift, Ctrl, Alt) on both the left and right side of the "typewriter" block of keys, the Alt key on the right side is the key labeled Alt-Gr on European keyboards. I believe only the keycap identification is different, the key generates the same keycode as Alt-Gr.
– fixer1234
Oct 19 at 21:14
@pupeno, just stumbled across an old post and remembered your question. Someone wrote that AltGr is equivalent to Ctrl+Alt, so one more thing to try. Also, rereading the quotation in your question, Kinesis isn't very clear. It almost sounds like they're saying that they made the Left Alt the code-equivalent of the AltGr key. Anyway, don't know if any of that is helpful, but good luck.
– fixer1234
Oct 30 at 5:38
The manual is unclear. Maybe you could consider contacting product support to get better explanation. But you can achieve AltGr either by pressing Ctrl+Alt or you can remap International Key (see the manual) to act as AltGr using AutoHotKey.
– miroxlav
Nov 18 at 23:38