Can you lasso down a wizard who is using the Levitate spell?





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My character is a Level 3 wizard who used the levitate spell on herself to avoid some ground enemies. Since she is able to use non-concentration spells during its duration, the DM began to think up ways to try and counter this. As of right now, they are aware that any damage done to the wizard can cause her to lose her concentration. However, they then began to wonder if it was possible for the wizard to be lassoed down. I am, too, so here are my questions concerning the idea:




  1. If the wizard is successfully lassoed, do they need to make a concentration saving throw?

  2. Does it become a contest of the enemies Str check and the Wizards Con save?

  3. In the event the wizard succeeds in maintaining their concentration, does the wizard become like a helium balloon (you can pull the balloon down, drag it along, but if you lose your grip it will float back up)?

  4. Also, in the event that the wizard succeeds and the NPC grabs onto the wizard in an attempt to keep them down, does the NPC float up with the wizard instead?










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    I think you could replace the list of 4 questions with just "What happens when a character tries to lasso a levitating wizard?" That's basically what the 4 questions are asking.
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My character is a Level 3 wizard who used the levitate spell on herself to avoid some ground enemies. Since she is able to use non-concentration spells during its duration, the DM began to think up ways to try and counter this. As of right now, they are aware that any damage done to the wizard can cause her to lose her concentration. However, they then began to wonder if it was possible for the wizard to be lassoed down. I am, too, so here are my questions concerning the idea:




  1. If the wizard is successfully lassoed, do they need to make a concentration saving throw?

  2. Does it become a contest of the enemies Str check and the Wizards Con save?

  3. In the event the wizard succeeds in maintaining their concentration, does the wizard become like a helium balloon (you can pull the balloon down, drag it along, but if you lose your grip it will float back up)?

  4. Also, in the event that the wizard succeeds and the NPC grabs onto the wizard in an attempt to keep them down, does the NPC float up with the wizard instead?










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    I think you could replace the list of 4 questions with just "What happens when a character tries to lasso a levitating wizard?" That's basically what the 4 questions are asking.
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My character is a Level 3 wizard who used the levitate spell on herself to avoid some ground enemies. Since she is able to use non-concentration spells during its duration, the DM began to think up ways to try and counter this. As of right now, they are aware that any damage done to the wizard can cause her to lose her concentration. However, they then began to wonder if it was possible for the wizard to be lassoed down. I am, too, so here are my questions concerning the idea:




  1. If the wizard is successfully lassoed, do they need to make a concentration saving throw?

  2. Does it become a contest of the enemies Str check and the Wizards Con save?

  3. In the event the wizard succeeds in maintaining their concentration, does the wizard become like a helium balloon (you can pull the balloon down, drag it along, but if you lose your grip it will float back up)?

  4. Also, in the event that the wizard succeeds and the NPC grabs onto the wizard in an attempt to keep them down, does the NPC float up with the wizard instead?










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My character is a Level 3 wizard who used the levitate spell on herself to avoid some ground enemies. Since she is able to use non-concentration spells during its duration, the DM began to think up ways to try and counter this. As of right now, they are aware that any damage done to the wizard can cause her to lose her concentration. However, they then began to wonder if it was possible for the wizard to be lassoed down. I am, too, so here are my questions concerning the idea:




  1. If the wizard is successfully lassoed, do they need to make a concentration saving throw?

  2. Does it become a contest of the enemies Str check and the Wizards Con save?

  3. In the event the wizard succeeds in maintaining their concentration, does the wizard become like a helium balloon (you can pull the balloon down, drag it along, but if you lose your grip it will float back up)?

  4. Also, in the event that the wizard succeeds and the NPC grabs onto the wizard in an attempt to keep them down, does the NPC float up with the wizard instead?







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    I think you could replace the list of 4 questions with just "What happens when a character tries to lasso a levitating wizard?" That's basically what the 4 questions are asking.
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    I think you could replace the list of 4 questions with just "What happens when a character tries to lasso a levitating wizard?" That's basically what the 4 questions are asking.
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I think you could replace the list of 4 questions with just "What happens when a character tries to lasso a levitating wizard?" That's basically what the 4 questions are asking.
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Assuming target of levitation can be lassoed, it can be weighed down.



tl;dr Assuming the wizard can be being unwillingly lassoed or attached via some mechanism, levitate will continue to function so long as less than 500 pounds are being levitated.



D&D is not a physics simulator.



It's worth noting that D&D is not a physics engine. The nuances of physics are largely eschewed in the rules. As such, the interaction of pulling and weight fall into DM and house rules territory.



Weighing down a target of levitation.



In this case the target is the wizard.




One creature or loose object of your choice that you can see within range rises vertically, up to 20 feet, and remains suspended there for the duration. The spell can levitate a target that weighs up to 500 pounds.




If sufficient weight is added to the wizard so that they equal or exceed 500 pounds, they are no longer a valid for the spell effect. The wizard will then begin to fall. The fall will continue until such a time that the levitating wizard is no longer trying to levitate 500 pounds or more.



If the added weight plus the wizard is less than 500 pounds, then they are not going to be moved down. No dice contests are required. If the total is less than 500 pounds and the wizard adds height on her next turn, then the added weight is lifted accordingly.






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    I don't think it's quite that simple. Your interpretation would allow the wizard to levitate a friend, as long as the total weight of the wizard, her friend, and both of their belongings weigh less than 500 pounds, but I don't know if that's intended to be a valid use of the spell.
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    @RyanThompson that's on the wizard to carry their friend while they're levitating. At that point the friend is cargo and seems like it would be on the wizard to carry something that heavy safely. If any other creature, regardless of weight stopped levitation, would an insect count? a tiny creature?
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    Can you clarify what your response is to "can the Wizard be lassoed and pulled down?" I'm not seeing a response to that question in this answer.
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    @lightcat In the question, the wizard is the target of a levitation spell. The answer to the question, "can the Wizard be lassoed and pulled down?" is "The target of levitation (in this case a wizard) can be lassoed or weighed down."
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    You might want to include something to that effect in your answer (that there's no mechanic for that and it's GM's call).
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    – lightcat
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Assuming target of levitation can be lassoed, it can be weighed down.



tl;dr Assuming the wizard can be being unwillingly lassoed or attached via some mechanism, levitate will continue to function so long as less than 500 pounds are being levitated.



D&D is not a physics simulator.



It's worth noting that D&D is not a physics engine. The nuances of physics are largely eschewed in the rules. As such, the interaction of pulling and weight fall into DM and house rules territory.



Weighing down a target of levitation.



In this case the target is the wizard.




One creature or loose object of your choice that you can see within range rises vertically, up to 20 feet, and remains suspended there for the duration. The spell can levitate a target that weighs up to 500 pounds.




If sufficient weight is added to the wizard so that they equal or exceed 500 pounds, they are no longer a valid for the spell effect. The wizard will then begin to fall. The fall will continue until such a time that the levitating wizard is no longer trying to levitate 500 pounds or more.



If the added weight plus the wizard is less than 500 pounds, then they are not going to be moved down. No dice contests are required. If the total is less than 500 pounds and the wizard adds height on her next turn, then the added weight is lifted accordingly.






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    I don't think it's quite that simple. Your interpretation would allow the wizard to levitate a friend, as long as the total weight of the wizard, her friend, and both of their belongings weigh less than 500 pounds, but I don't know if that's intended to be a valid use of the spell.
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    @RyanThompson that's on the wizard to carry their friend while they're levitating. At that point the friend is cargo and seems like it would be on the wizard to carry something that heavy safely. If any other creature, regardless of weight stopped levitation, would an insect count? a tiny creature?
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    Can you clarify what your response is to "can the Wizard be lassoed and pulled down?" I'm not seeing a response to that question in this answer.
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    @lightcat In the question, the wizard is the target of a levitation spell. The answer to the question, "can the Wizard be lassoed and pulled down?" is "The target of levitation (in this case a wizard) can be lassoed or weighed down."
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    You might want to include something to that effect in your answer (that there's no mechanic for that and it's GM's call).
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Assuming target of levitation can be lassoed, it can be weighed down.



tl;dr Assuming the wizard can be being unwillingly lassoed or attached via some mechanism, levitate will continue to function so long as less than 500 pounds are being levitated.



D&D is not a physics simulator.



It's worth noting that D&D is not a physics engine. The nuances of physics are largely eschewed in the rules. As such, the interaction of pulling and weight fall into DM and house rules territory.



Weighing down a target of levitation.



In this case the target is the wizard.




One creature or loose object of your choice that you can see within range rises vertically, up to 20 feet, and remains suspended there for the duration. The spell can levitate a target that weighs up to 500 pounds.




If sufficient weight is added to the wizard so that they equal or exceed 500 pounds, they are no longer a valid for the spell effect. The wizard will then begin to fall. The fall will continue until such a time that the levitating wizard is no longer trying to levitate 500 pounds or more.



If the added weight plus the wizard is less than 500 pounds, then they are not going to be moved down. No dice contests are required. If the total is less than 500 pounds and the wizard adds height on her next turn, then the added weight is lifted accordingly.






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    I don't think it's quite that simple. Your interpretation would allow the wizard to levitate a friend, as long as the total weight of the wizard, her friend, and both of their belongings weigh less than 500 pounds, but I don't know if that's intended to be a valid use of the spell.
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    – Ryan Thompson
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    @RyanThompson that's on the wizard to carry their friend while they're levitating. At that point the friend is cargo and seems like it would be on the wizard to carry something that heavy safely. If any other creature, regardless of weight stopped levitation, would an insect count? a tiny creature?
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    Can you clarify what your response is to "can the Wizard be lassoed and pulled down?" I'm not seeing a response to that question in this answer.
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    @lightcat In the question, the wizard is the target of a levitation spell. The answer to the question, "can the Wizard be lassoed and pulled down?" is "The target of levitation (in this case a wizard) can be lassoed or weighed down."
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    – GcL
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    You might want to include something to that effect in your answer (that there's no mechanic for that and it's GM's call).
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Assuming target of levitation can be lassoed, it can be weighed down.



tl;dr Assuming the wizard can be being unwillingly lassoed or attached via some mechanism, levitate will continue to function so long as less than 500 pounds are being levitated.



D&D is not a physics simulator.



It's worth noting that D&D is not a physics engine. The nuances of physics are largely eschewed in the rules. As such, the interaction of pulling and weight fall into DM and house rules territory.



Weighing down a target of levitation.



In this case the target is the wizard.




One creature or loose object of your choice that you can see within range rises vertically, up to 20 feet, and remains suspended there for the duration. The spell can levitate a target that weighs up to 500 pounds.




If sufficient weight is added to the wizard so that they equal or exceed 500 pounds, they are no longer a valid for the spell effect. The wizard will then begin to fall. The fall will continue until such a time that the levitating wizard is no longer trying to levitate 500 pounds or more.



If the added weight plus the wizard is less than 500 pounds, then they are not going to be moved down. No dice contests are required. If the total is less than 500 pounds and the wizard adds height on her next turn, then the added weight is lifted accordingly.






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Assuming target of levitation can be lassoed, it can be weighed down.



tl;dr Assuming the wizard can be being unwillingly lassoed or attached via some mechanism, levitate will continue to function so long as less than 500 pounds are being levitated.



D&D is not a physics simulator.



It's worth noting that D&D is not a physics engine. The nuances of physics are largely eschewed in the rules. As such, the interaction of pulling and weight fall into DM and house rules territory.



Weighing down a target of levitation.



In this case the target is the wizard.




One creature or loose object of your choice that you can see within range rises vertically, up to 20 feet, and remains suspended there for the duration. The spell can levitate a target that weighs up to 500 pounds.




If sufficient weight is added to the wizard so that they equal or exceed 500 pounds, they are no longer a valid for the spell effect. The wizard will then begin to fall. The fall will continue until such a time that the levitating wizard is no longer trying to levitate 500 pounds or more.



If the added weight plus the wizard is less than 500 pounds, then they are not going to be moved down. No dice contests are required. If the total is less than 500 pounds and the wizard adds height on her next turn, then the added weight is lifted accordingly.







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    I don't think it's quite that simple. Your interpretation would allow the wizard to levitate a friend, as long as the total weight of the wizard, her friend, and both of their belongings weigh less than 500 pounds, but I don't know if that's intended to be a valid use of the spell.
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    @RyanThompson that's on the wizard to carry their friend while they're levitating. At that point the friend is cargo and seems like it would be on the wizard to carry something that heavy safely. If any other creature, regardless of weight stopped levitation, would an insect count? a tiny creature?
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    Can you clarify what your response is to "can the Wizard be lassoed and pulled down?" I'm not seeing a response to that question in this answer.
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    @lightcat In the question, the wizard is the target of a levitation spell. The answer to the question, "can the Wizard be lassoed and pulled down?" is "The target of levitation (in this case a wizard) can be lassoed or weighed down."
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    – GcL
    1 hour ago






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    You might want to include something to that effect in your answer (that there's no mechanic for that and it's GM's call).
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    – lightcat
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  • $begingroup$
    I don't think it's quite that simple. Your interpretation would allow the wizard to levitate a friend, as long as the total weight of the wizard, her friend, and both of their belongings weigh less than 500 pounds, but I don't know if that's intended to be a valid use of the spell.
    $endgroup$
    – Ryan Thompson
    1 hour ago










  • $begingroup$
    @RyanThompson that's on the wizard to carry their friend while they're levitating. At that point the friend is cargo and seems like it would be on the wizard to carry something that heavy safely. If any other creature, regardless of weight stopped levitation, would an insect count? a tiny creature?
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    – GcL
    1 hour ago












  • $begingroup$
    Can you clarify what your response is to "can the Wizard be lassoed and pulled down?" I'm not seeing a response to that question in this answer.
    $endgroup$
    – lightcat
    1 hour ago










  • $begingroup$
    @lightcat In the question, the wizard is the target of a levitation spell. The answer to the question, "can the Wizard be lassoed and pulled down?" is "The target of levitation (in this case a wizard) can be lassoed or weighed down."
    $endgroup$
    – GcL
    1 hour ago






  • 1




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    You might want to include something to that effect in your answer (that there's no mechanic for that and it's GM's call).
    $endgroup$
    – lightcat
    50 mins ago
















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I don't think it's quite that simple. Your interpretation would allow the wizard to levitate a friend, as long as the total weight of the wizard, her friend, and both of their belongings weigh less than 500 pounds, but I don't know if that's intended to be a valid use of the spell.
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– Ryan Thompson
1 hour ago




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I don't think it's quite that simple. Your interpretation would allow the wizard to levitate a friend, as long as the total weight of the wizard, her friend, and both of their belongings weigh less than 500 pounds, but I don't know if that's intended to be a valid use of the spell.
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@RyanThompson that's on the wizard to carry their friend while they're levitating. At that point the friend is cargo and seems like it would be on the wizard to carry something that heavy safely. If any other creature, regardless of weight stopped levitation, would an insect count? a tiny creature?
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1 hour ago






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@RyanThompson that's on the wizard to carry their friend while they're levitating. At that point the friend is cargo and seems like it would be on the wizard to carry something that heavy safely. If any other creature, regardless of weight stopped levitation, would an insect count? a tiny creature?
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Can you clarify what your response is to "can the Wizard be lassoed and pulled down?" I'm not seeing a response to that question in this answer.
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– lightcat
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Can you clarify what your response is to "can the Wizard be lassoed and pulled down?" I'm not seeing a response to that question in this answer.
$endgroup$
– lightcat
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@lightcat In the question, the wizard is the target of a levitation spell. The answer to the question, "can the Wizard be lassoed and pulled down?" is "The target of levitation (in this case a wizard) can be lassoed or weighed down."
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– GcL
1 hour ago




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@lightcat In the question, the wizard is the target of a levitation spell. The answer to the question, "can the Wizard be lassoed and pulled down?" is "The target of levitation (in this case a wizard) can be lassoed or weighed down."
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– GcL
1 hour ago




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You might want to include something to that effect in your answer (that there's no mechanic for that and it's GM's call).
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You might want to include something to that effect in your answer (that there's no mechanic for that and it's GM's call).
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– lightcat
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