Identifying the interval from A♭ to D♯
This is a very theoretical question but it's confusing me a little.
So intervals overlap - That's why I can call a major 3rd a diminished 4th, and such.
However, from what I understand, a perfect 5th only overlaps with a diminished 6th. You cannot refer to a 7 semitone interval using a 4th because the "biggest" fourth, augmented fourth, is a diminished 5th.
So consider this (treble clef):
What would you call the interval here? From what I understand it should be called a 4th because of the distance between the notes. But that's impossible.
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This is a very theoretical question but it's confusing me a little.
So intervals overlap - That's why I can call a major 3rd a diminished 4th, and such.
However, from what I understand, a perfect 5th only overlaps with a diminished 6th. You cannot refer to a 7 semitone interval using a 4th because the "biggest" fourth, augmented fourth, is a diminished 5th.
So consider this (treble clef):
What would you call the interval here? From what I understand it should be called a 4th because of the distance between the notes. But that's impossible.
theory intervals
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This is a very theoretical question but it's confusing me a little.
So intervals overlap - That's why I can call a major 3rd a diminished 4th, and such.
However, from what I understand, a perfect 5th only overlaps with a diminished 6th. You cannot refer to a 7 semitone interval using a 4th because the "biggest" fourth, augmented fourth, is a diminished 5th.
So consider this (treble clef):
What would you call the interval here? From what I understand it should be called a 4th because of the distance between the notes. But that's impossible.
theory intervals
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This is a very theoretical question but it's confusing me a little.
So intervals overlap - That's why I can call a major 3rd a diminished 4th, and such.
However, from what I understand, a perfect 5th only overlaps with a diminished 6th. You cannot refer to a 7 semitone interval using a 4th because the "biggest" fourth, augmented fourth, is a diminished 5th.
So consider this (treble clef):
What would you call the interval here? From what I understand it should be called a 4th because of the distance between the notes. But that's impossible.
theory intervals
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You're correct; it should be called a fourth!
But since "augmented fourth" won't be big enough for this, we kind of had to make up a term, and the world of music theory collectively decided upon calling this interval a doubly augmented fourth. This just means that it's one half step larger than an augmented fourth. (As such, the augmented fourth is not really the "biggest" fourth possible.)
The same is true for diminished intervals; a half step smaller than a diminished sixth will be a doubly diminished sixth.
Any interval can overlap with (or, in more theoretical terms, "be enharmonic to") another interval. A perfect fifth could, in theory, be enharmonic to a triply augmented third—not that you'll encounter those very often!
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This is the best way to explain doubly-augmented intervals I've heard. +1!
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You're correct; it should be called a fourth!
But since "augmented fourth" won't be big enough for this, we kind of had to make up a term, and the world of music theory collectively decided upon calling this interval a doubly augmented fourth. This just means that it's one half step larger than an augmented fourth. (As such, the augmented fourth is not really the "biggest" fourth possible.)
The same is true for diminished intervals; a half step smaller than a diminished sixth will be a doubly diminished sixth.
Any interval can overlap with (or, in more theoretical terms, "be enharmonic to") another interval. A perfect fifth could, in theory, be enharmonic to a triply augmented third—not that you'll encounter those very often!
answered 1 hour ago
RichardRichard
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This is the best way to explain doubly-augmented intervals I've heard. +1!
– user45266
31 mins ago
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You're correct; it should be called a fourth!
But since "augmented fourth" won't be big enough for this, we kind of had to make up a term, and the world of music theory collectively decided upon calling this interval a doubly augmented fourth. This just means that it's one half step larger than an augmented fourth. (As such, the augmented fourth is not really the "biggest" fourth possible.)
The same is true for diminished intervals; a half step smaller than a diminished sixth will be a doubly diminished sixth.
Any interval can overlap with (or, in more theoretical terms, "be enharmonic to") another interval. A perfect fifth could, in theory, be enharmonic to a triply augmented third—not that you'll encounter those very often!
answered 1 hour ago
RichardRichard
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This is the best way to explain doubly-augmented intervals I've heard. +1!
– user45266
31 mins ago
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You're correct; it should be called a fourth!
But since "augmented fourth" won't be big enough for this, we kind of had to make up a term, and the world of music theory collectively decided upon calling this interval a doubly augmented fourth. This just means that it's one half step larger than an augmented fourth. (As such, the augmented fourth is not really the "biggest" fourth possible.)
The same is true for diminished intervals; a half step smaller than a diminished sixth will be a doubly diminished sixth.
Any interval can overlap with (or, in more theoretical terms, "be enharmonic to") another interval. A perfect fifth could, in theory, be enharmonic to a triply augmented third—not that you'll encounter those very often!
answered 1 hour ago
RichardRichard
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You're correct; it should be called a fourth!
But since "augmented fourth" won't be big enough for this, we kind of had to make up a term, and the world of music theory collectively decided upon calling this interval a doubly augmented fourth. This just means that it's one half step larger than an augmented fourth. (As such, the augmented fourth is not really the "biggest" fourth possible.)
The same is true for diminished intervals; a half step smaller than a diminished sixth will be a doubly diminished sixth.
Any interval can overlap with (or, in more theoretical terms, "be enharmonic to") another interval. A perfect fifth could, in theory, be enharmonic to a triply augmented third—not that you'll encounter those very often!
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This is the best way to explain doubly-augmented intervals I've heard. +1!
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This is the best way to explain doubly-augmented intervals I've heard. +1!
– user45266
31 mins ago
This is the best way to explain doubly-augmented intervals I've heard. +1!
– user45266
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This is the best way to explain doubly-augmented intervals I've heard. +1!
– user45266
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