Is there a feat akin to the Fighter's Action Surge which is available to other classes?
While reading the comments of this answer, I came across the following statement :
... if you still have 5 slots you can still use the [Divine] Smite 5× in a round
(with 2 attacks, times two with a feat, and one bonus attack) ...
What feat could the commenter be referring to?
I am aware of the Fighter's 2nd level class feature, Action Surge, but am not aware of a feat available to other classes ( specifically Paladin ) that grants the quoted "times two with a feat" effect/ability.
I've looked through my PHB's feats section and don't see anything. What am I missing?
dnd-5e feats class-feature paladin
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While reading the comments of this answer, I came across the following statement :
... if you still have 5 slots you can still use the [Divine] Smite 5× in a round
(with 2 attacks, times two with a feat, and one bonus attack) ...
What feat could the commenter be referring to?
I am aware of the Fighter's 2nd level class feature, Action Surge, but am not aware of a feat available to other classes ( specifically Paladin ) that grants the quoted "times two with a feat" effect/ability.
I've looked through my PHB's feats section and don't see anything. What am I missing?
dnd-5e feats class-feature paladin
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While reading the comments of this answer, I came across the following statement :
... if you still have 5 slots you can still use the [Divine] Smite 5× in a round
(with 2 attacks, times two with a feat, and one bonus attack) ...
What feat could the commenter be referring to?
I am aware of the Fighter's 2nd level class feature, Action Surge, but am not aware of a feat available to other classes ( specifically Paladin ) that grants the quoted "times two with a feat" effect/ability.
I've looked through my PHB's feats section and don't see anything. What am I missing?
dnd-5e feats class-feature paladin
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While reading the comments of this answer, I came across the following statement :
... if you still have 5 slots you can still use the [Divine] Smite 5× in a round
(with 2 attacks, times two with a feat, and one bonus attack) ...
What feat could the commenter be referring to?
I am aware of the Fighter's 2nd level class feature, Action Surge, but am not aware of a feat available to other classes ( specifically Paladin ) that grants the quoted "times two with a feat" effect/ability.
I've looked through my PHB's feats section and don't see anything. What am I missing?
dnd-5e feats class-feature paladin
dnd-5e feats class-feature paladin
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There is no such feat
You are not missing anything, the commenter was mistaken.
I have seen many people use "feat" instead of "feature"; he might have meant Action Surge too.
edited Jan 3 at 19:55
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answered Jan 3 at 19:42
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I thought not; thank you for the confirmation.
– Code Maverick
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You can't get Action Surge or similar as a feat
As Andras correctly states, there is no 5e feat that allows this; there is also no 5e feat that will grant more than 1 additional attack per turn. Any feat that does grant an additional attack (Great Weapon Master, Crossbow Expert, etc.) does so using your bonus action, so they don't stack and you can only ever get 1 additional attack.
Additionally, allowing a feat that grants effects similar to Action Surge would be extremely overpowered. Every single class can benefit from it, and would all take it at the first opportunity if it did exist. Action Surge is so good that many people consider the 2-level dip into fighter to be a worthwhile investment for it alone.
Previous Editions
It is possible they were confusing feats from previous editions. I have often seen the Pathfinder feat "Improved Two-Weapon Fighting" referred to as doubling your attacks, as it allows an additional off-hand attack for each of your main attacks.
answered Jan 4 at 0:57
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Yes, understood. Just to clarify, I was not asking whether Action Surge was a feat or not, but rather whether there existed a feat similar to it. I tried to make that distinction by calling out that Action Surge is a Fighter's 2nd level class feature.
– Code Maverick
Jan 4 at 3:51
@CodeMaverick My point was to show that there was similar feats in earlier editions but not 5th. I'll adjust the wording.
– linksassin
Jan 4 at 3:52
Strictly speaking, Pathfinder's Two-Weapon Fighting feat doesn't enable you to make off-hand attacks, since you can already do that. It just reduces the otherwise prohibitive penalty. Granted, off-hand attacks are rather ineffective without the feat, so this is just me being pedantic.
– BBeast
Jan 4 at 4:07
@BBeast it allows you to make an additional off hand attack. Without it you can only make 1 off-hand attack. Technically it's Improved Two-Weapon Fighting so I'll change my answer.
– linksassin
Jan 4 at 4:09
@linksassin double-checking the SRD, it appears that Improved and Greater TWF grant extra off-hand attacks, whereas regular TWF refers to the standard 1 off-hand attack (although the flavour text makes this ambiguous). Although if you want to discuss further I'll be in chat.
– BBeast
Jan 4 at 4:17
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There is no such feat
You are not missing anything, the commenter was mistaken.
I have seen many people use "feat" instead of "feature"; he might have meant Action Surge too.
edited Jan 3 at 19:55
SevenSidedDie♦
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answered Jan 3 at 19:42
András
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I thought not; thank you for the confirmation.
– Code Maverick
Jan 3 at 21:11
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There is no such feat
You are not missing anything, the commenter was mistaken.
I have seen many people use "feat" instead of "feature"; he might have meant Action Surge too.
edited Jan 3 at 19:55
SevenSidedDie♦
205k30658934
answered Jan 3 at 19:42
András
26.7k1195187
I thought not; thank you for the confirmation.
– Code Maverick
Jan 3 at 21:11
add a comment |
There is no such feat
You are not missing anything, the commenter was mistaken.
I have seen many people use "feat" instead of "feature"; he might have meant Action Surge too.
edited Jan 3 at 19:55
SevenSidedDie♦
205k30658934
answered Jan 3 at 19:42
András
26.7k1195187
There is no such feat
You are not missing anything, the commenter was mistaken.
I have seen many people use "feat" instead of "feature"; he might have meant Action Surge too.
edited Jan 3 at 19:55
SevenSidedDie♦
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answered Jan 3 at 19:42
András
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edited Jan 3 at 19:55
SevenSidedDie♦
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edited Jan 3 at 19:55
SevenSidedDie♦
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edited Jan 3 at 19:55
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answered Jan 3 at 19:42
András
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I thought not; thank you for the confirmation.
– Code Maverick
Jan 3 at 21:11
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I thought not; thank you for the confirmation.
– Code Maverick
Jan 3 at 21:11
I thought not; thank you for the confirmation.
– Code Maverick
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I thought not; thank you for the confirmation.
– Code Maverick
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You can't get Action Surge or similar as a feat
As Andras correctly states, there is no 5e feat that allows this; there is also no 5e feat that will grant more than 1 additional attack per turn. Any feat that does grant an additional attack (Great Weapon Master, Crossbow Expert, etc.) does so using your bonus action, so they don't stack and you can only ever get 1 additional attack.
Additionally, allowing a feat that grants effects similar to Action Surge would be extremely overpowered. Every single class can benefit from it, and would all take it at the first opportunity if it did exist. Action Surge is so good that many people consider the 2-level dip into fighter to be a worthwhile investment for it alone.
Previous Editions
It is possible they were confusing feats from previous editions. I have often seen the Pathfinder feat "Improved Two-Weapon Fighting" referred to as doubling your attacks, as it allows an additional off-hand attack for each of your main attacks.
answered Jan 4 at 0:57
linksassin
4,52511344
Yes, understood. Just to clarify, I was not asking whether Action Surge was a feat or not, but rather whether there existed a feat similar to it. I tried to make that distinction by calling out that Action Surge is a Fighter's 2nd level class feature.
– Code Maverick
Jan 4 at 3:51
@CodeMaverick My point was to show that there was similar feats in earlier editions but not 5th. I'll adjust the wording.
– linksassin
Jan 4 at 3:52
Strictly speaking, Pathfinder's Two-Weapon Fighting feat doesn't enable you to make off-hand attacks, since you can already do that. It just reduces the otherwise prohibitive penalty. Granted, off-hand attacks are rather ineffective without the feat, so this is just me being pedantic.
– BBeast
Jan 4 at 4:07
@BBeast it allows you to make an additional off hand attack. Without it you can only make 1 off-hand attack. Technically it's Improved Two-Weapon Fighting so I'll change my answer.
– linksassin
Jan 4 at 4:09
@linksassin double-checking the SRD, it appears that Improved and Greater TWF grant extra off-hand attacks, whereas regular TWF refers to the standard 1 off-hand attack (although the flavour text makes this ambiguous). Although if you want to discuss further I'll be in chat.
– BBeast
Jan 4 at 4:17
add a comment |
You can't get Action Surge or similar as a feat
As Andras correctly states, there is no 5e feat that allows this; there is also no 5e feat that will grant more than 1 additional attack per turn. Any feat that does grant an additional attack (Great Weapon Master, Crossbow Expert, etc.) does so using your bonus action, so they don't stack and you can only ever get 1 additional attack.
Additionally, allowing a feat that grants effects similar to Action Surge would be extremely overpowered. Every single class can benefit from it, and would all take it at the first opportunity if it did exist. Action Surge is so good that many people consider the 2-level dip into fighter to be a worthwhile investment for it alone.
Previous Editions
It is possible they were confusing feats from previous editions. I have often seen the Pathfinder feat "Improved Two-Weapon Fighting" referred to as doubling your attacks, as it allows an additional off-hand attack for each of your main attacks.
answered Jan 4 at 0:57
linksassin
4,52511344
Yes, understood. Just to clarify, I was not asking whether Action Surge was a feat or not, but rather whether there existed a feat similar to it. I tried to make that distinction by calling out that Action Surge is a Fighter's 2nd level class feature.
– Code Maverick
Jan 4 at 3:51
@CodeMaverick My point was to show that there was similar feats in earlier editions but not 5th. I'll adjust the wording.
– linksassin
Jan 4 at 3:52
Strictly speaking, Pathfinder's Two-Weapon Fighting feat doesn't enable you to make off-hand attacks, since you can already do that. It just reduces the otherwise prohibitive penalty. Granted, off-hand attacks are rather ineffective without the feat, so this is just me being pedantic.
– BBeast
Jan 4 at 4:07
@BBeast it allows you to make an additional off hand attack. Without it you can only make 1 off-hand attack. Technically it's Improved Two-Weapon Fighting so I'll change my answer.
– linksassin
Jan 4 at 4:09
@linksassin double-checking the SRD, it appears that Improved and Greater TWF grant extra off-hand attacks, whereas regular TWF refers to the standard 1 off-hand attack (although the flavour text makes this ambiguous). Although if you want to discuss further I'll be in chat.
– BBeast
Jan 4 at 4:17
add a comment |
You can't get Action Surge or similar as a feat
As Andras correctly states, there is no 5e feat that allows this; there is also no 5e feat that will grant more than 1 additional attack per turn. Any feat that does grant an additional attack (Great Weapon Master, Crossbow Expert, etc.) does so using your bonus action, so they don't stack and you can only ever get 1 additional attack.
Additionally, allowing a feat that grants effects similar to Action Surge would be extremely overpowered. Every single class can benefit from it, and would all take it at the first opportunity if it did exist. Action Surge is so good that many people consider the 2-level dip into fighter to be a worthwhile investment for it alone.
Previous Editions
It is possible they were confusing feats from previous editions. I have often seen the Pathfinder feat "Improved Two-Weapon Fighting" referred to as doubling your attacks, as it allows an additional off-hand attack for each of your main attacks.
answered Jan 4 at 0:57
linksassin
4,52511344
You can't get Action Surge or similar as a feat
As Andras correctly states, there is no 5e feat that allows this; there is also no 5e feat that will grant more than 1 additional attack per turn. Any feat that does grant an additional attack (Great Weapon Master, Crossbow Expert, etc.) does so using your bonus action, so they don't stack and you can only ever get 1 additional attack.
Additionally, allowing a feat that grants effects similar to Action Surge would be extremely overpowered. Every single class can benefit from it, and would all take it at the first opportunity if it did exist. Action Surge is so good that many people consider the 2-level dip into fighter to be a worthwhile investment for it alone.
Previous Editions
It is possible they were confusing feats from previous editions. I have often seen the Pathfinder feat "Improved Two-Weapon Fighting" referred to as doubling your attacks, as it allows an additional off-hand attack for each of your main attacks.
answered Jan 4 at 0:57
linksassin
4,52511344
edited Jan 4 at 4:12
answered Jan 4 at 0:57
linksassin
4,52511344
answered Jan 4 at 0:57
linksassin
4,52511344
answered Jan 4 at 0:57
linksassin
4,52511344
4,52511344
Yes, understood. Just to clarify, I was not asking whether Action Surge was a feat or not, but rather whether there existed a feat similar to it. I tried to make that distinction by calling out that Action Surge is a Fighter's 2nd level class feature.
– Code Maverick
Jan 4 at 3:51
@CodeMaverick My point was to show that there was similar feats in earlier editions but not 5th. I'll adjust the wording.
– linksassin
Jan 4 at 3:52
Strictly speaking, Pathfinder's Two-Weapon Fighting feat doesn't enable you to make off-hand attacks, since you can already do that. It just reduces the otherwise prohibitive penalty. Granted, off-hand attacks are rather ineffective without the feat, so this is just me being pedantic.
– BBeast
Jan 4 at 4:07
@BBeast it allows you to make an additional off hand attack. Without it you can only make 1 off-hand attack. Technically it's Improved Two-Weapon Fighting so I'll change my answer.
– linksassin
Jan 4 at 4:09
@linksassin double-checking the SRD, it appears that Improved and Greater TWF grant extra off-hand attacks, whereas regular TWF refers to the standard 1 off-hand attack (although the flavour text makes this ambiguous). Although if you want to discuss further I'll be in chat.
– BBeast
Jan 4 at 4:17
add a comment |
Yes, understood. Just to clarify, I was not asking whether Action Surge was a feat or not, but rather whether there existed a feat similar to it. I tried to make that distinction by calling out that Action Surge is a Fighter's 2nd level class feature.
– Code Maverick
Jan 4 at 3:51
@CodeMaverick My point was to show that there was similar feats in earlier editions but not 5th. I'll adjust the wording.
– linksassin
Jan 4 at 3:52
Strictly speaking, Pathfinder's Two-Weapon Fighting feat doesn't enable you to make off-hand attacks, since you can already do that. It just reduces the otherwise prohibitive penalty. Granted, off-hand attacks are rather ineffective without the feat, so this is just me being pedantic.
– BBeast
Jan 4 at 4:07
@BBeast it allows you to make an additional off hand attack. Without it you can only make 1 off-hand attack. Technically it's Improved Two-Weapon Fighting so I'll change my answer.
– linksassin
Jan 4 at 4:09
@linksassin double-checking the SRD, it appears that Improved and Greater TWF grant extra off-hand attacks, whereas regular TWF refers to the standard 1 off-hand attack (although the flavour text makes this ambiguous). Although if you want to discuss further I'll be in chat.
– BBeast
Jan 4 at 4:17
Yes, understood. Just to clarify, I was not asking whether Action Surge was a feat or not, but rather whether there existed a feat similar to it. I tried to make that distinction by calling out that Action Surge is a Fighter's 2nd level class feature.
– Code Maverick
Jan 4 at 3:51
Yes, understood. Just to clarify, I was not asking whether Action Surge was a feat or not, but rather whether there existed a feat similar to it. I tried to make that distinction by calling out that Action Surge is a Fighter's 2nd level class feature.
– Code Maverick
Jan 4 at 3:51
@CodeMaverick My point was to show that there was similar feats in earlier editions but not 5th. I'll adjust the wording.
– linksassin
Jan 4 at 3:52
@CodeMaverick My point was to show that there was similar feats in earlier editions but not 5th. I'll adjust the wording.
– linksassin
Jan 4 at 3:52
Strictly speaking, Pathfinder's Two-Weapon Fighting feat doesn't enable you to make off-hand attacks, since you can already do that. It just reduces the otherwise prohibitive penalty. Granted, off-hand attacks are rather ineffective without the feat, so this is just me being pedantic.
– BBeast
Jan 4 at 4:07
Strictly speaking, Pathfinder's Two-Weapon Fighting feat doesn't enable you to make off-hand attacks, since you can already do that. It just reduces the otherwise prohibitive penalty. Granted, off-hand attacks are rather ineffective without the feat, so this is just me being pedantic.
– BBeast
Jan 4 at 4:07
@BBeast it allows you to make an additional off hand attack. Without it you can only make 1 off-hand attack. Technically it's Improved Two-Weapon Fighting so I'll change my answer.
– linksassin
Jan 4 at 4:09
@BBeast it allows you to make an additional off hand attack. Without it you can only make 1 off-hand attack. Technically it's Improved Two-Weapon Fighting so I'll change my answer.
– linksassin
Jan 4 at 4:09
@linksassin double-checking the SRD, it appears that Improved and Greater TWF grant extra off-hand attacks, whereas regular TWF refers to the standard 1 off-hand attack (although the flavour text makes this ambiguous). Although if you want to discuss further I'll be in chat.
– BBeast
Jan 4 at 4:17
@linksassin double-checking the SRD, it appears that Improved and Greater TWF grant extra off-hand attacks, whereas regular TWF refers to the standard 1 off-hand attack (although the flavour text makes this ambiguous). Although if you want to discuss further I'll be in chat.
– BBeast
Jan 4 at 4:17
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