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I built garage shelves using Grip Rite construction screws (photo of box below). Only afterwards did I notice the statement about "non-structural" use.



Did I make a major mistake? Should I get some stronger screws to attach the beams to the posts?



FWIW, I also used wood glue (Titlebond II) to attach the shelves to the posts.



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    If I understand your photo right. the weight of the middle shelf is held by the shear strength of the screws and glue. I think you would have a strength improvement if you glued/screwed some additional struts so that the shelf was held up by longitudinal sections of wood (even small ones)

    – Douglas Held
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  • the glue will probably provide more shear strength to the joint than the screws would, but the screws can probably take ~100lbs shear each anyway.

    – Zac Faragher
    2 hours ago











  • It has king studs but it's missing its cripples : "held up by longitudinal sections of wood"

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I built garage shelves using Grip Rite construction screws (photo of box below). Only afterwards did I notice the statement about "non-structural" use.



Did I make a major mistake? Should I get some stronger screws to attach the beams to the posts?



FWIW, I also used wood glue (Titlebond II) to attach the shelves to the posts.



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share|improve this question




















  • 2





    If I understand your photo right. the weight of the middle shelf is held by the shear strength of the screws and glue. I think you would have a strength improvement if you glued/screwed some additional struts so that the shelf was held up by longitudinal sections of wood (even small ones)

    – Douglas Held
    yesterday











  • the glue will probably provide more shear strength to the joint than the screws would, but the screws can probably take ~100lbs shear each anyway.

    – Zac Faragher
    2 hours ago











  • It has king studs but it's missing its cripples : "held up by longitudinal sections of wood"

    – Mazura
    1 hour ago














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I built garage shelves using Grip Rite construction screws (photo of box below). Only afterwards did I notice the statement about "non-structural" use.



Did I make a major mistake? Should I get some stronger screws to attach the beams to the posts?



FWIW, I also used wood glue (Titlebond II) to attach the shelves to the posts.



enter image description here



enter image description here










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I built garage shelves using Grip Rite construction screws (photo of box below). Only afterwards did I notice the statement about "non-structural" use.



Did I make a major mistake? Should I get some stronger screws to attach the beams to the posts?



FWIW, I also used wood glue (Titlebond II) to attach the shelves to the posts.



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    If I understand your photo right. the weight of the middle shelf is held by the shear strength of the screws and glue. I think you would have a strength improvement if you glued/screwed some additional struts so that the shelf was held up by longitudinal sections of wood (even small ones)

    – Douglas Held
    yesterday











  • the glue will probably provide more shear strength to the joint than the screws would, but the screws can probably take ~100lbs shear each anyway.

    – Zac Faragher
    2 hours ago











  • It has king studs but it's missing its cripples : "held up by longitudinal sections of wood"

    – Mazura
    1 hour ago














  • 2





    If I understand your photo right. the weight of the middle shelf is held by the shear strength of the screws and glue. I think you would have a strength improvement if you glued/screwed some additional struts so that the shelf was held up by longitudinal sections of wood (even small ones)

    – Douglas Held
    yesterday











  • the glue will probably provide more shear strength to the joint than the screws would, but the screws can probably take ~100lbs shear each anyway.

    – Zac Faragher
    2 hours ago











  • It has king studs but it's missing its cripples : "held up by longitudinal sections of wood"

    – Mazura
    1 hour ago








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If I understand your photo right. the weight of the middle shelf is held by the shear strength of the screws and glue. I think you would have a strength improvement if you glued/screwed some additional struts so that the shelf was held up by longitudinal sections of wood (even small ones)

– Douglas Held
yesterday





If I understand your photo right. the weight of the middle shelf is held by the shear strength of the screws and glue. I think you would have a strength improvement if you glued/screwed some additional struts so that the shelf was held up by longitudinal sections of wood (even small ones)

– Douglas Held
yesterday













the glue will probably provide more shear strength to the joint than the screws would, but the screws can probably take ~100lbs shear each anyway.

– Zac Faragher
2 hours ago





the glue will probably provide more shear strength to the joint than the screws would, but the screws can probably take ~100lbs shear each anyway.

– Zac Faragher
2 hours ago













It has king studs but it's missing its cripples : "held up by longitudinal sections of wood"

– Mazura
1 hour ago





It has king studs but it's missing its cripples : "held up by longitudinal sections of wood"

– Mazura
1 hour ago










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"Structural" applies to load-bearing walls and the like. I think you're safe. From what i can tell in the picture, unless you're storing engine blocks on them, you should be fine.






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    I think generally, shelves are non-structural. Structural use is building a house.



    Although I bet those 2 could use your good-looking shelves as a sweet fort structure! That doesn't count.



    My idea: let those 2 paint the shelves. They go to the paint store and each one picks his / her color. The boy gets the vertical pieces. Then when those dry, the girl gets the big flat areas. You can turn it sideways for her turn. Whenever they see those shelves as they grow up, they will be the shelves they painted.






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      Nice idea about the painting, I love it :-)

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      Great idea! Thanks for the suggestion. :)

      – Bill
      11 hours ago






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      Well I guess we know what Tom Sawyer's account name is now.

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      9 hours ago











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            I think generally, shelves are non-structural. Structural use is building a house.



            Although I bet those 2 could use your good-looking shelves as a sweet fort structure! That doesn't count.



            My idea: let those 2 paint the shelves. They go to the paint store and each one picks his / her color. The boy gets the vertical pieces. Then when those dry, the girl gets the big flat areas. You can turn it sideways for her turn. Whenever they see those shelves as they grow up, they will be the shelves they painted.






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              Nice idea about the painting, I love it :-)

              – Michaël Polla
              19 hours ago






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              Great idea! Thanks for the suggestion. :)

              – Bill
              11 hours ago






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              Well I guess we know what Tom Sawyer's account name is now.

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              9 hours ago
















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            I think generally, shelves are non-structural. Structural use is building a house.



            Although I bet those 2 could use your good-looking shelves as a sweet fort structure! That doesn't count.



            My idea: let those 2 paint the shelves. They go to the paint store and each one picks his / her color. The boy gets the vertical pieces. Then when those dry, the girl gets the big flat areas. You can turn it sideways for her turn. Whenever they see those shelves as they grow up, they will be the shelves they painted.






            share|improve this answer



















            • 2





              Nice idea about the painting, I love it :-)

              – Michaël Polla
              19 hours ago






            • 2





              Great idea! Thanks for the suggestion. :)

              – Bill
              11 hours ago






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              Well I guess we know what Tom Sawyer's account name is now.

              – Dan Neely
              9 hours ago














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            I think generally, shelves are non-structural. Structural use is building a house.



            Although I bet those 2 could use your good-looking shelves as a sweet fort structure! That doesn't count.



            My idea: let those 2 paint the shelves. They go to the paint store and each one picks his / her color. The boy gets the vertical pieces. Then when those dry, the girl gets the big flat areas. You can turn it sideways for her turn. Whenever they see those shelves as they grow up, they will be the shelves they painted.






            share|improve this answer













            I think generally, shelves are non-structural. Structural use is building a house.



            Although I bet those 2 could use your good-looking shelves as a sweet fort structure! That doesn't count.



            My idea: let those 2 paint the shelves. They go to the paint store and each one picks his / her color. The boy gets the vertical pieces. Then when those dry, the girl gets the big flat areas. You can turn it sideways for her turn. Whenever they see those shelves as they grow up, they will be the shelves they painted.







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              Nice idea about the painting, I love it :-)

              – Michaël Polla
              19 hours ago






            • 2





              Great idea! Thanks for the suggestion. :)

              – Bill
              11 hours ago






            • 3





              Well I guess we know what Tom Sawyer's account name is now.

              – Dan Neely
              9 hours ago














            • 2





              Nice idea about the painting, I love it :-)

              – Michaël Polla
              19 hours ago






            • 2





              Great idea! Thanks for the suggestion. :)

              – Bill
              11 hours ago






            • 3





              Well I guess we know what Tom Sawyer's account name is now.

              – Dan Neely
              9 hours ago








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            2





            Nice idea about the painting, I love it :-)

            – Michaël Polla
            19 hours ago





            Nice idea about the painting, I love it :-)

            – Michaël Polla
            19 hours ago




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            2





            Great idea! Thanks for the suggestion. :)

            – Bill
            11 hours ago





            Great idea! Thanks for the suggestion. :)

            – Bill
            11 hours ago




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            3





            Well I guess we know what Tom Sawyer's account name is now.

            – Dan Neely
            9 hours ago





            Well I guess we know what Tom Sawyer's account name is now.

            – Dan Neely
            9 hours ago


















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