Should I call out a toxic manager by name on Glassdoor?
This toxic manager, let's call him "John." He is the director of the department and reports directly to C-level owners of a mid-sized American SMB (roughly 200 employees). To to quickly list some of his attributes:
- Absolutely radiates negativity and pessimism: everything is a problem, there are no solutions.
- Consistently in a bad mood (I'd say about 80% of the time) and makes no effort to be even remotely pleasant to talk with or be around (at least to his "subordinates" - with his superiors he's somehow always just lovely).
- Micromanages trivial and minute things for no apparent reason
- Refuses to take blame for his mistakes
- Weaponizes any mistake you make (no matter how small) to use against you when you ask for a promotion, or even just an increase in duties without more pay.
- Passive-aggressive and manipulative/controlling
Extreme trust issues which to him constantly overloading himself with work, causing delays and frustrations with his department.
- Fails to delegate even the simplest tasks because of said trust issues.
I left the company last month by choice, I was not fired or even laid off. I was fortunate enough to secure a better position with a better company, but honestly the company I left (where said toxic manager is still employed) really is a great company and the only reason I started looking for employment elsewhere was because of how utterly horrible and insufferable my manager was. Yes, I am still angry and perhaps even bitter. Yes, I realize I should just move on and put this behind me...but I still have friends at the old company that are suffering under the draconian and toxic "leadership" of John...and I hate the thought of it, not to mention any new-hires.
Right before I left the company I privately messaged the CEO to tell him I'd be happy to come back one day, provided John was gone. Without going into detail, I added that I saw John leaving as an inevitability. The CEO is very laissez-faire of hands-off (which is good, don't get me wrong), but he surely knows about this toxic manager by now and continues to do nothing. I am not exaggerating when I say I am at least the 3rd, if not the 4th, person this manager has driven off. I held nothing back in my exit interview, but I happen to know for a fact that the guy before me did the same thing (our time at the company overlapped) and nothing came of it whatsoever.
I am going to write a negative Glassdoor review of the company. However, I'm unsure if I should call "John" out by name or not. If I don't, nothing will change. Of course I don't think a Glassdoor will provoke a lot of change, but I want to do something.
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This toxic manager, let's call him "John." He is the director of the department and reports directly to C-level owners of a mid-sized American SMB (roughly 200 employees). To to quickly list some of his attributes:
- Absolutely radiates negativity and pessimism: everything is a problem, there are no solutions.
- Consistently in a bad mood (I'd say about 80% of the time) and makes no effort to be even remotely pleasant to talk with or be around (at least to his "subordinates" - with his superiors he's somehow always just lovely).
- Micromanages trivial and minute things for no apparent reason
- Refuses to take blame for his mistakes
- Weaponizes any mistake you make (no matter how small) to use against you when you ask for a promotion, or even just an increase in duties without more pay.
- Passive-aggressive and manipulative/controlling
Extreme trust issues which to him constantly overloading himself with work, causing delays and frustrations with his department.
- Fails to delegate even the simplest tasks because of said trust issues.
I left the company last month by choice, I was not fired or even laid off. I was fortunate enough to secure a better position with a better company, but honestly the company I left (where said toxic manager is still employed) really is a great company and the only reason I started looking for employment elsewhere was because of how utterly horrible and insufferable my manager was. Yes, I am still angry and perhaps even bitter. Yes, I realize I should just move on and put this behind me...but I still have friends at the old company that are suffering under the draconian and toxic "leadership" of John...and I hate the thought of it, not to mention any new-hires.
Right before I left the company I privately messaged the CEO to tell him I'd be happy to come back one day, provided John was gone. Without going into detail, I added that I saw John leaving as an inevitability. The CEO is very laissez-faire of hands-off (which is good, don't get me wrong), but he surely knows about this toxic manager by now and continues to do nothing. I am not exaggerating when I say I am at least the 3rd, if not the 4th, person this manager has driven off. I held nothing back in my exit interview, but I happen to know for a fact that the guy before me did the same thing (our time at the company overlapped) and nothing came of it whatsoever.
I am going to write a negative Glassdoor review of the company. However, I'm unsure if I should call "John" out by name or not. If I don't, nothing will change. Of course I don't think a Glassdoor will provoke a lot of change, but I want to do something.
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Hello, have you read glassdoor's policies or FAQs?
– Homerothompson
15 hours ago
2
Is there a chance that referencing the manager by role would uniquely identify one person? For example, if you reference a financial manager but the company only has one person with this title.
– Kozaky
15 hours ago
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This is what your exit interview is for - if the company cares, they'll ask why you're leaving and you can say because of you and "John" ... if they don't care, then you won't be asked. If all the people leaving cite "John" as their reason, it's up to HR & his manager to establish IF there's a problem and remove him. Do not assume there's a problem just because you're leaving... it might be a policy that works very well for the company in ways you don't know.
– UKMonkey
14 hours ago
2
The manager may be a good manager - just that you had a clash of personalities perhaps. It happens.
– Ed Heal
14 hours ago
2
@randomuser3837 yes, I am serious,and they're not alone. Some companies PRIDE themselves on having a high staff turnover and only employing cheap undergrads... They get people who don't know better, leaning over backwards, jumping as high as they say. You assuming that his boss doesn't know what he's like is a significant (and wrong) assumption. They put him there... They know very well what he's like.
– UKMonkey
8 hours ago
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This toxic manager, let's call him "John." He is the director of the department and reports directly to C-level owners of a mid-sized American SMB (roughly 200 employees). To to quickly list some of his attributes:
- Absolutely radiates negativity and pessimism: everything is a problem, there are no solutions.
- Consistently in a bad mood (I'd say about 80% of the time) and makes no effort to be even remotely pleasant to talk with or be around (at least to his "subordinates" - with his superiors he's somehow always just lovely).
- Micromanages trivial and minute things for no apparent reason
- Refuses to take blame for his mistakes
- Weaponizes any mistake you make (no matter how small) to use against you when you ask for a promotion, or even just an increase in duties without more pay.
- Passive-aggressive and manipulative/controlling
Extreme trust issues which to him constantly overloading himself with work, causing delays and frustrations with his department.
- Fails to delegate even the simplest tasks because of said trust issues.
I left the company last month by choice, I was not fired or even laid off. I was fortunate enough to secure a better position with a better company, but honestly the company I left (where said toxic manager is still employed) really is a great company and the only reason I started looking for employment elsewhere was because of how utterly horrible and insufferable my manager was. Yes, I am still angry and perhaps even bitter. Yes, I realize I should just move on and put this behind me...but I still have friends at the old company that are suffering under the draconian and toxic "leadership" of John...and I hate the thought of it, not to mention any new-hires.
Right before I left the company I privately messaged the CEO to tell him I'd be happy to come back one day, provided John was gone. Without going into detail, I added that I saw John leaving as an inevitability. The CEO is very laissez-faire of hands-off (which is good, don't get me wrong), but he surely knows about this toxic manager by now and continues to do nothing. I am not exaggerating when I say I am at least the 3rd, if not the 4th, person this manager has driven off. I held nothing back in my exit interview, but I happen to know for a fact that the guy before me did the same thing (our time at the company overlapped) and nothing came of it whatsoever.
I am going to write a negative Glassdoor review of the company. However, I'm unsure if I should call "John" out by name or not. If I don't, nothing will change. Of course I don't think a Glassdoor will provoke a lot of change, but I want to do something.
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This toxic manager, let's call him "John." He is the director of the department and reports directly to C-level owners of a mid-sized American SMB (roughly 200 employees). To to quickly list some of his attributes:
- Absolutely radiates negativity and pessimism: everything is a problem, there are no solutions.
- Consistently in a bad mood (I'd say about 80% of the time) and makes no effort to be even remotely pleasant to talk with or be around (at least to his "subordinates" - with his superiors he's somehow always just lovely).
- Micromanages trivial and minute things for no apparent reason
- Refuses to take blame for his mistakes
- Weaponizes any mistake you make (no matter how small) to use against you when you ask for a promotion, or even just an increase in duties without more pay.
- Passive-aggressive and manipulative/controlling
Extreme trust issues which to him constantly overloading himself with work, causing delays and frustrations with his department.
- Fails to delegate even the simplest tasks because of said trust issues.
I left the company last month by choice, I was not fired or even laid off. I was fortunate enough to secure a better position with a better company, but honestly the company I left (where said toxic manager is still employed) really is a great company and the only reason I started looking for employment elsewhere was because of how utterly horrible and insufferable my manager was. Yes, I am still angry and perhaps even bitter. Yes, I realize I should just move on and put this behind me...but I still have friends at the old company that are suffering under the draconian and toxic "leadership" of John...and I hate the thought of it, not to mention any new-hires.
Right before I left the company I privately messaged the CEO to tell him I'd be happy to come back one day, provided John was gone. Without going into detail, I added that I saw John leaving as an inevitability. The CEO is very laissez-faire of hands-off (which is good, don't get me wrong), but he surely knows about this toxic manager by now and continues to do nothing. I am not exaggerating when I say I am at least the 3rd, if not the 4th, person this manager has driven off. I held nothing back in my exit interview, but I happen to know for a fact that the guy before me did the same thing (our time at the company overlapped) and nothing came of it whatsoever.
I am going to write a negative Glassdoor review of the company. However, I'm unsure if I should call "John" out by name or not. If I don't, nothing will change. Of course I don't think a Glassdoor will provoke a lot of change, but I want to do something.
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Hello, have you read glassdoor's policies or FAQs?
– Homerothompson
15 hours ago
2
Is there a chance that referencing the manager by role would uniquely identify one person? For example, if you reference a financial manager but the company only has one person with this title.
– Kozaky
15 hours ago
3
This is what your exit interview is for - if the company cares, they'll ask why you're leaving and you can say because of you and "John" ... if they don't care, then you won't be asked. If all the people leaving cite "John" as their reason, it's up to HR & his manager to establish IF there's a problem and remove him. Do not assume there's a problem just because you're leaving... it might be a policy that works very well for the company in ways you don't know.
– UKMonkey
14 hours ago
2
The manager may be a good manager - just that you had a clash of personalities perhaps. It happens.
– Ed Heal
14 hours ago
2
@randomuser3837 yes, I am serious,and they're not alone. Some companies PRIDE themselves on having a high staff turnover and only employing cheap undergrads... They get people who don't know better, leaning over backwards, jumping as high as they say. You assuming that his boss doesn't know what he's like is a significant (and wrong) assumption. They put him there... They know very well what he's like.
– UKMonkey
8 hours ago
|
show 8 more comments
44
Hello, have you read glassdoor's policies or FAQs?
– Homerothompson
15 hours ago
2
Is there a chance that referencing the manager by role would uniquely identify one person? For example, if you reference a financial manager but the company only has one person with this title.
– Kozaky
15 hours ago
3
This is what your exit interview is for - if the company cares, they'll ask why you're leaving and you can say because of you and "John" ... if they don't care, then you won't be asked. If all the people leaving cite "John" as their reason, it's up to HR & his manager to establish IF there's a problem and remove him. Do not assume there's a problem just because you're leaving... it might be a policy that works very well for the company in ways you don't know.
– UKMonkey
14 hours ago
2
The manager may be a good manager - just that you had a clash of personalities perhaps. It happens.
– Ed Heal
14 hours ago
2
@randomuser3837 yes, I am serious,and they're not alone. Some companies PRIDE themselves on having a high staff turnover and only employing cheap undergrads... They get people who don't know better, leaning over backwards, jumping as high as they say. You assuming that his boss doesn't know what he's like is a significant (and wrong) assumption. They put him there... They know very well what he's like.
– UKMonkey
8 hours ago
44
44
Hello, have you read glassdoor's policies or FAQs?
– Homerothompson
15 hours ago
Hello, have you read glassdoor's policies or FAQs?
– Homerothompson
15 hours ago
2
2
Is there a chance that referencing the manager by role would uniquely identify one person? For example, if you reference a financial manager but the company only has one person with this title.
– Kozaky
15 hours ago
Is there a chance that referencing the manager by role would uniquely identify one person? For example, if you reference a financial manager but the company only has one person with this title.
– Kozaky
15 hours ago
3
3
This is what your exit interview is for - if the company cares, they'll ask why you're leaving and you can say because of you and "John" ... if they don't care, then you won't be asked. If all the people leaving cite "John" as their reason, it's up to HR & his manager to establish IF there's a problem and remove him. Do not assume there's a problem just because you're leaving... it might be a policy that works very well for the company in ways you don't know.
– UKMonkey
14 hours ago
This is what your exit interview is for - if the company cares, they'll ask why you're leaving and you can say because of you and "John" ... if they don't care, then you won't be asked. If all the people leaving cite "John" as their reason, it's up to HR & his manager to establish IF there's a problem and remove him. Do not assume there's a problem just because you're leaving... it might be a policy that works very well for the company in ways you don't know.
– UKMonkey
14 hours ago
2
2
The manager may be a good manager - just that you had a clash of personalities perhaps. It happens.
– Ed Heal
14 hours ago
The manager may be a good manager - just that you had a clash of personalities perhaps. It happens.
– Ed Heal
14 hours ago
2
2
@randomuser3837 yes, I am serious,and they're not alone. Some companies PRIDE themselves on having a high staff turnover and only employing cheap undergrads... They get people who don't know better, leaning over backwards, jumping as high as they say. You assuming that his boss doesn't know what he's like is a significant (and wrong) assumption. They put him there... They know very well what he's like.
– UKMonkey
8 hours ago
@randomuser3837 yes, I am serious,and they're not alone. Some companies PRIDE themselves on having a high staff turnover and only employing cheap undergrads... They get people who don't know better, leaning over backwards, jumping as high as they say. You assuming that his boss doesn't know what he's like is a significant (and wrong) assumption. They put him there... They know very well what he's like.
– UKMonkey
8 hours ago
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No. Glassdoor's policies explicitly prohibit negative reviews of identifiable individuals, unless they are high-ranking public representatives of the company.
My advice? Let it go, you've already moved on and I very much doubt that "John" spends any time thinking about you and you no longer have any need to spend any time thinking about him.
Holding a grudge is like drinking poison and hoping someone else dies.
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The idea is to let potential candidates know what to expect when interviewing for a job in this individual's team. Not publishing any review would open others to live the same situation OP lived. Would precisely point the position instead of the name be ok?
– nkoniishvt
14 hours ago
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@motosubatsu what does IANL means ?
– Neyt
13 hours ago
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@Neyt I Am Not A Lawyer
– motosubatsu
13 hours ago
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@motosubatsu Then it's IANAL.
– Michael
12 hours ago
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@motosubatsu Well, at least there are worse vowels you could have forgotten from that acronym
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I will agree with you that John sounds like a terrible manager, and not a great person at that.
That said, I would advise against calling him out by name. Doing that will look incredibly aggressive, and might make people view your review with less weight than they originally would have. If you start making accusatory statements towards a particular employee, it makes you look petty, and more concerned with that manager than with the company itself. In addition, it is possible you open yourself to accusations of slander, and you don't want to be mixed up in that.
The way I see it, there is a fault with the company itself if they can't manage their managers. You want your review to be about the company, not the people employed there.
I would suggest including something along the lines of
"The company has some serious problems with managing their management. One manager in particular, though I won't name names, is guilty of (...). I would strongly recommend against seeking employment with this company."
This way, you let potential applicants know that there is a serious management problem, but you avoid seeming petty. In fact, you seem even more level-headed by taking the high road and not pointing fingers.
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Plus, as @motosubatsu said, it is not allowed on Glassdoor. Still, I think it's important to know that it's a bad idea, even if it were to be allowed
– Cubemaster
15 hours ago
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I'd absolutely agree - were it allowed it would still be a bad idea.
– motosubatsu
15 hours ago
@Cubemaster you should add your comment to the answer (and even link the other answer) as it's quite integral: it's disallowed, but even if it were allowed, you shouldn't because your review will look more professional / have more weight if you don't
– Tas
6 hours ago
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Everyone has had a bad boss, and while yours sounds bad... Here's some things that bosses I've had have done.
- Timed my bathroom breaks
- Threw a block of wood at someone.
- Diddled a coworker while on the clock
- beat a plastic box fan with a 2x4 while it was running, sending parts flying.
- Had a man standing out in the hot sun for 8 hours without a break or water.
and more that's even more outrageous.
This is not to say that you have no right to be upset, but your situation demonstrates why a common answer given on this site is "find another job"
That said, again, everyone has had a bad boss.
If you call him out, you are going to be the one who looks bad and will be dismissed as a "bitter, former employee, who is taking pot-shots now that he has no fear of repercussions"
Worse, this will make John look like a victim of cyber bullying. God help you if it goes viral and people want to track down the vicious former employee being so mean. Don't think this can't happen.
You've already moved on physically, now it's time to move on mentally. Let the matter drop. As you said, the CEO is already aware of the situation. Nothing will be done on that end. All that will happen is you exposing yourself to liability (yes, John could sue you for libel) and probably get banned from whatever site you post this on.
LET IT DROP
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"beat a plastic box fan with a 2x4 while it was running, sending parts flying." Youtube was invented for a reason.... please tell me someone was filming
– UKMonkey
14 hours ago
@UKMonkey Sorry, this was back before the youtubes, but man, I would have had hours of footage from those days.
– Richard U
14 hours ago
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Plus one upvotes for usage of "diddled"
– dwizum
14 hours ago
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Dear God, these stories are insane! We tend to be soft in the "white collar" world, I admit. ;)
– RandomUser3837
13 hours ago
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@RandomUser3837 I came up from being a laborer all the way to where I am now. I have stories that would curl your hair. Including one about where a supervisor sent men to patch potholes in thick fog. It ended about as well as you can expect.
– Richard U
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What are you whining about?
This guy has the character of a future president.
...but more seriously:
Find a new workplace.
( oh wait, you did, so what is it to you anymore?)
I agree, that is a very unpleasant work climate
However:
It is sadly very often a tactic in company management NOT a toxic person.(whatever that is now...)
- no fraternizing with subordinates
- shattering any attempt of raise negotiations by pointing at employees' flaws and mistakes
- management is always right and makes no mistakes, critique on management is insubordination
- subordinates need to be controlled, dominated even pitted against each other to raise productivity and undermine insubordination
- trust is a) not given but earned and b) trust in the wrong people can ruin a company
Did I forget any?
Oh yeah, be an ass and you won't be bothered...
"This guy has the character of a future president." Good thing Hillary wasn't elected.
– Mayo
7 hours ago
@Mayo as opposed to the one that got elected (; They're both the same only in different shades of colours, dare I say even grey...
– DigitalBlade969
6 hours ago
I felt like I had to tweak you over that line. :) I'm not a Trump hater. He's done a lot more good than I thought he would but I understand, completely understand, why he grates people the wrong way.
– Mayo
6 hours ago
@Mayo I thought you might. Oh he is a business man alright and he did very good things for corporate america as I predicted he would.I don't see that he fulfilled any worker's dreams though of those who voted for him from that class. Mind you,since I'm not in the U.S. I might have missed it.I find it very bewildering and telling of the electorate that someone with his character and statements gets elected but I was early on afraid that he might make it.I look forward to seeing Kanye next in office...brave new world...
– DigitalBlade969
6 hours ago
Of course trust is earned...but after two years it became pretty clear the problem was not on my side. Not to mention my predecessor left for the exact same reasons as I did. It's not coincidental.
– RandomUser3837
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No. Glassdoor's policies explicitly prohibit negative reviews of identifiable individuals, unless they are high-ranking public representatives of the company.
My advice? Let it go, you've already moved on and I very much doubt that "John" spends any time thinking about you and you no longer have any need to spend any time thinking about him.
Holding a grudge is like drinking poison and hoping someone else dies.
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The idea is to let potential candidates know what to expect when interviewing for a job in this individual's team. Not publishing any review would open others to live the same situation OP lived. Would precisely point the position instead of the name be ok?
– nkoniishvt
14 hours ago
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@motosubatsu what does IANL means ?
– Neyt
13 hours ago
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@Neyt I Am Not A Lawyer
– motosubatsu
13 hours ago
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@motosubatsu Then it's IANAL.
– Michael
12 hours ago
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@motosubatsu Well, at least there are worse vowels you could have forgotten from that acronym
– Michael
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No. Glassdoor's policies explicitly prohibit negative reviews of identifiable individuals, unless they are high-ranking public representatives of the company.
My advice? Let it go, you've already moved on and I very much doubt that "John" spends any time thinking about you and you no longer have any need to spend any time thinking about him.
Holding a grudge is like drinking poison and hoping someone else dies.
2
The idea is to let potential candidates know what to expect when interviewing for a job in this individual's team. Not publishing any review would open others to live the same situation OP lived. Would precisely point the position instead of the name be ok?
– nkoniishvt
14 hours ago
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@motosubatsu what does IANL means ?
– Neyt
13 hours ago
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@Neyt I Am Not A Lawyer
– motosubatsu
13 hours ago
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@motosubatsu Then it's IANAL.
– Michael
12 hours ago
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@motosubatsu Well, at least there are worse vowels you could have forgotten from that acronym
– Michael
11 hours ago
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No. Glassdoor's policies explicitly prohibit negative reviews of identifiable individuals, unless they are high-ranking public representatives of the company.
My advice? Let it go, you've already moved on and I very much doubt that "John" spends any time thinking about you and you no longer have any need to spend any time thinking about him.
Holding a grudge is like drinking poison and hoping someone else dies.
No. Glassdoor's policies explicitly prohibit negative reviews of identifiable individuals, unless they are high-ranking public representatives of the company.
My advice? Let it go, you've already moved on and I very much doubt that "John" spends any time thinking about you and you no longer have any need to spend any time thinking about him.
Holding a grudge is like drinking poison and hoping someone else dies.
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The idea is to let potential candidates know what to expect when interviewing for a job in this individual's team. Not publishing any review would open others to live the same situation OP lived. Would precisely point the position instead of the name be ok?
– nkoniishvt
14 hours ago
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@motosubatsu what does IANL means ?
– Neyt
13 hours ago
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@Neyt I Am Not A Lawyer
– motosubatsu
13 hours ago
3
@motosubatsu Then it's IANAL.
– Michael
12 hours ago
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@motosubatsu Well, at least there are worse vowels you could have forgotten from that acronym
– Michael
11 hours ago
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The idea is to let potential candidates know what to expect when interviewing for a job in this individual's team. Not publishing any review would open others to live the same situation OP lived. Would precisely point the position instead of the name be ok?
– nkoniishvt
14 hours ago
2
@motosubatsu what does IANL means ?
– Neyt
13 hours ago
3
@Neyt I Am Not A Lawyer
– motosubatsu
13 hours ago
3
@motosubatsu Then it's IANAL.
– Michael
12 hours ago
19
@motosubatsu Well, at least there are worse vowels you could have forgotten from that acronym
– Michael
11 hours ago
2
2
The idea is to let potential candidates know what to expect when interviewing for a job in this individual's team. Not publishing any review would open others to live the same situation OP lived. Would precisely point the position instead of the name be ok?
– nkoniishvt
14 hours ago
The idea is to let potential candidates know what to expect when interviewing for a job in this individual's team. Not publishing any review would open others to live the same situation OP lived. Would precisely point the position instead of the name be ok?
– nkoniishvt
14 hours ago
2
2
@motosubatsu what does IANL means ?
– Neyt
13 hours ago
@motosubatsu what does IANL means ?
– Neyt
13 hours ago
3
3
@Neyt I Am Not A Lawyer
– motosubatsu
13 hours ago
@Neyt I Am Not A Lawyer
– motosubatsu
13 hours ago
3
3
@motosubatsu Then it's IANAL.
– Michael
12 hours ago
@motosubatsu Then it's IANAL.
– Michael
12 hours ago
19
19
@motosubatsu Well, at least there are worse vowels you could have forgotten from that acronym
– Michael
11 hours ago
@motosubatsu Well, at least there are worse vowels you could have forgotten from that acronym
– Michael
11 hours ago
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I will agree with you that John sounds like a terrible manager, and not a great person at that.
That said, I would advise against calling him out by name. Doing that will look incredibly aggressive, and might make people view your review with less weight than they originally would have. If you start making accusatory statements towards a particular employee, it makes you look petty, and more concerned with that manager than with the company itself. In addition, it is possible you open yourself to accusations of slander, and you don't want to be mixed up in that.
The way I see it, there is a fault with the company itself if they can't manage their managers. You want your review to be about the company, not the people employed there.
I would suggest including something along the lines of
"The company has some serious problems with managing their management. One manager in particular, though I won't name names, is guilty of (...). I would strongly recommend against seeking employment with this company."
This way, you let potential applicants know that there is a serious management problem, but you avoid seeming petty. In fact, you seem even more level-headed by taking the high road and not pointing fingers.
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Plus, as @motosubatsu said, it is not allowed on Glassdoor. Still, I think it's important to know that it's a bad idea, even if it were to be allowed
– Cubemaster
15 hours ago
5
I'd absolutely agree - were it allowed it would still be a bad idea.
– motosubatsu
15 hours ago
@Cubemaster you should add your comment to the answer (and even link the other answer) as it's quite integral: it's disallowed, but even if it were allowed, you shouldn't because your review will look more professional / have more weight if you don't
– Tas
6 hours ago
add a comment |
I will agree with you that John sounds like a terrible manager, and not a great person at that.
That said, I would advise against calling him out by name. Doing that will look incredibly aggressive, and might make people view your review with less weight than they originally would have. If you start making accusatory statements towards a particular employee, it makes you look petty, and more concerned with that manager than with the company itself. In addition, it is possible you open yourself to accusations of slander, and you don't want to be mixed up in that.
The way I see it, there is a fault with the company itself if they can't manage their managers. You want your review to be about the company, not the people employed there.
I would suggest including something along the lines of
"The company has some serious problems with managing their management. One manager in particular, though I won't name names, is guilty of (...). I would strongly recommend against seeking employment with this company."
This way, you let potential applicants know that there is a serious management problem, but you avoid seeming petty. In fact, you seem even more level-headed by taking the high road and not pointing fingers.
7
Plus, as @motosubatsu said, it is not allowed on Glassdoor. Still, I think it's important to know that it's a bad idea, even if it were to be allowed
– Cubemaster
15 hours ago
5
I'd absolutely agree - were it allowed it would still be a bad idea.
– motosubatsu
15 hours ago
@Cubemaster you should add your comment to the answer (and even link the other answer) as it's quite integral: it's disallowed, but even if it were allowed, you shouldn't because your review will look more professional / have more weight if you don't
– Tas
6 hours ago
add a comment |
I will agree with you that John sounds like a terrible manager, and not a great person at that.
That said, I would advise against calling him out by name. Doing that will look incredibly aggressive, and might make people view your review with less weight than they originally would have. If you start making accusatory statements towards a particular employee, it makes you look petty, and more concerned with that manager than with the company itself. In addition, it is possible you open yourself to accusations of slander, and you don't want to be mixed up in that.
The way I see it, there is a fault with the company itself if they can't manage their managers. You want your review to be about the company, not the people employed there.
I would suggest including something along the lines of
"The company has some serious problems with managing their management. One manager in particular, though I won't name names, is guilty of (...). I would strongly recommend against seeking employment with this company."
This way, you let potential applicants know that there is a serious management problem, but you avoid seeming petty. In fact, you seem even more level-headed by taking the high road and not pointing fingers.
I will agree with you that John sounds like a terrible manager, and not a great person at that.
That said, I would advise against calling him out by name. Doing that will look incredibly aggressive, and might make people view your review with less weight than they originally would have. If you start making accusatory statements towards a particular employee, it makes you look petty, and more concerned with that manager than with the company itself. In addition, it is possible you open yourself to accusations of slander, and you don't want to be mixed up in that.
The way I see it, there is a fault with the company itself if they can't manage their managers. You want your review to be about the company, not the people employed there.
I would suggest including something along the lines of
"The company has some serious problems with managing their management. One manager in particular, though I won't name names, is guilty of (...). I would strongly recommend against seeking employment with this company."
This way, you let potential applicants know that there is a serious management problem, but you avoid seeming petty. In fact, you seem even more level-headed by taking the high road and not pointing fingers.
answered 15 hours ago
CubemasterCubemaster
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Plus, as @motosubatsu said, it is not allowed on Glassdoor. Still, I think it's important to know that it's a bad idea, even if it were to be allowed
– Cubemaster
15 hours ago
5
I'd absolutely agree - were it allowed it would still be a bad idea.
– motosubatsu
15 hours ago
@Cubemaster you should add your comment to the answer (and even link the other answer) as it's quite integral: it's disallowed, but even if it were allowed, you shouldn't because your review will look more professional / have more weight if you don't
– Tas
6 hours ago
add a comment |
7
Plus, as @motosubatsu said, it is not allowed on Glassdoor. Still, I think it's important to know that it's a bad idea, even if it were to be allowed
– Cubemaster
15 hours ago
5
I'd absolutely agree - were it allowed it would still be a bad idea.
– motosubatsu
15 hours ago
@Cubemaster you should add your comment to the answer (and even link the other answer) as it's quite integral: it's disallowed, but even if it were allowed, you shouldn't because your review will look more professional / have more weight if you don't
– Tas
6 hours ago
7
7
Plus, as @motosubatsu said, it is not allowed on Glassdoor. Still, I think it's important to know that it's a bad idea, even if it were to be allowed
– Cubemaster
15 hours ago
Plus, as @motosubatsu said, it is not allowed on Glassdoor. Still, I think it's important to know that it's a bad idea, even if it were to be allowed
– Cubemaster
15 hours ago
5
5
I'd absolutely agree - were it allowed it would still be a bad idea.
– motosubatsu
15 hours ago
I'd absolutely agree - were it allowed it would still be a bad idea.
– motosubatsu
15 hours ago
@Cubemaster you should add your comment to the answer (and even link the other answer) as it's quite integral: it's disallowed, but even if it were allowed, you shouldn't because your review will look more professional / have more weight if you don't
– Tas
6 hours ago
@Cubemaster you should add your comment to the answer (and even link the other answer) as it's quite integral: it's disallowed, but even if it were allowed, you shouldn't because your review will look more professional / have more weight if you don't
– Tas
6 hours ago
add a comment |
Everyone has had a bad boss, and while yours sounds bad... Here's some things that bosses I've had have done.
- Timed my bathroom breaks
- Threw a block of wood at someone.
- Diddled a coworker while on the clock
- beat a plastic box fan with a 2x4 while it was running, sending parts flying.
- Had a man standing out in the hot sun for 8 hours without a break or water.
and more that's even more outrageous.
This is not to say that you have no right to be upset, but your situation demonstrates why a common answer given on this site is "find another job"
That said, again, everyone has had a bad boss.
If you call him out, you are going to be the one who looks bad and will be dismissed as a "bitter, former employee, who is taking pot-shots now that he has no fear of repercussions"
Worse, this will make John look like a victim of cyber bullying. God help you if it goes viral and people want to track down the vicious former employee being so mean. Don't think this can't happen.
You've already moved on physically, now it's time to move on mentally. Let the matter drop. As you said, the CEO is already aware of the situation. Nothing will be done on that end. All that will happen is you exposing yourself to liability (yes, John could sue you for libel) and probably get banned from whatever site you post this on.
LET IT DROP
2
"beat a plastic box fan with a 2x4 while it was running, sending parts flying." Youtube was invented for a reason.... please tell me someone was filming
– UKMonkey
14 hours ago
@UKMonkey Sorry, this was back before the youtubes, but man, I would have had hours of footage from those days.
– Richard U
14 hours ago
8
Plus one upvotes for usage of "diddled"
– dwizum
14 hours ago
2
Dear God, these stories are insane! We tend to be soft in the "white collar" world, I admit. ;)
– RandomUser3837
13 hours ago
3
@RandomUser3837 I came up from being a laborer all the way to where I am now. I have stories that would curl your hair. Including one about where a supervisor sent men to patch potholes in thick fog. It ended about as well as you can expect.
– Richard U
12 hours ago
|
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Everyone has had a bad boss, and while yours sounds bad... Here's some things that bosses I've had have done.
- Timed my bathroom breaks
- Threw a block of wood at someone.
- Diddled a coworker while on the clock
- beat a plastic box fan with a 2x4 while it was running, sending parts flying.
- Had a man standing out in the hot sun for 8 hours without a break or water.
and more that's even more outrageous.
This is not to say that you have no right to be upset, but your situation demonstrates why a common answer given on this site is "find another job"
That said, again, everyone has had a bad boss.
If you call him out, you are going to be the one who looks bad and will be dismissed as a "bitter, former employee, who is taking pot-shots now that he has no fear of repercussions"
Worse, this will make John look like a victim of cyber bullying. God help you if it goes viral and people want to track down the vicious former employee being so mean. Don't think this can't happen.
You've already moved on physically, now it's time to move on mentally. Let the matter drop. As you said, the CEO is already aware of the situation. Nothing will be done on that end. All that will happen is you exposing yourself to liability (yes, John could sue you for libel) and probably get banned from whatever site you post this on.
LET IT DROP
2
"beat a plastic box fan with a 2x4 while it was running, sending parts flying." Youtube was invented for a reason.... please tell me someone was filming
– UKMonkey
14 hours ago
@UKMonkey Sorry, this was back before the youtubes, but man, I would have had hours of footage from those days.
– Richard U
14 hours ago
8
Plus one upvotes for usage of "diddled"
– dwizum
14 hours ago
2
Dear God, these stories are insane! We tend to be soft in the "white collar" world, I admit. ;)
– RandomUser3837
13 hours ago
3
@RandomUser3837 I came up from being a laborer all the way to where I am now. I have stories that would curl your hair. Including one about where a supervisor sent men to patch potholes in thick fog. It ended about as well as you can expect.
– Richard U
12 hours ago
|
show 4 more comments
Everyone has had a bad boss, and while yours sounds bad... Here's some things that bosses I've had have done.
- Timed my bathroom breaks
- Threw a block of wood at someone.
- Diddled a coworker while on the clock
- beat a plastic box fan with a 2x4 while it was running, sending parts flying.
- Had a man standing out in the hot sun for 8 hours without a break or water.
and more that's even more outrageous.
This is not to say that you have no right to be upset, but your situation demonstrates why a common answer given on this site is "find another job"
That said, again, everyone has had a bad boss.
If you call him out, you are going to be the one who looks bad and will be dismissed as a "bitter, former employee, who is taking pot-shots now that he has no fear of repercussions"
Worse, this will make John look like a victim of cyber bullying. God help you if it goes viral and people want to track down the vicious former employee being so mean. Don't think this can't happen.
You've already moved on physically, now it's time to move on mentally. Let the matter drop. As you said, the CEO is already aware of the situation. Nothing will be done on that end. All that will happen is you exposing yourself to liability (yes, John could sue you for libel) and probably get banned from whatever site you post this on.
LET IT DROP
Everyone has had a bad boss, and while yours sounds bad... Here's some things that bosses I've had have done.
- Timed my bathroom breaks
- Threw a block of wood at someone.
- Diddled a coworker while on the clock
- beat a plastic box fan with a 2x4 while it was running, sending parts flying.
- Had a man standing out in the hot sun for 8 hours without a break or water.
and more that's even more outrageous.
This is not to say that you have no right to be upset, but your situation demonstrates why a common answer given on this site is "find another job"
That said, again, everyone has had a bad boss.
If you call him out, you are going to be the one who looks bad and will be dismissed as a "bitter, former employee, who is taking pot-shots now that he has no fear of repercussions"
Worse, this will make John look like a victim of cyber bullying. God help you if it goes viral and people want to track down the vicious former employee being so mean. Don't think this can't happen.
You've already moved on physically, now it's time to move on mentally. Let the matter drop. As you said, the CEO is already aware of the situation. Nothing will be done on that end. All that will happen is you exposing yourself to liability (yes, John could sue you for libel) and probably get banned from whatever site you post this on.
LET IT DROP
answered 15 hours ago
Richard URichard U
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2
"beat a plastic box fan with a 2x4 while it was running, sending parts flying." Youtube was invented for a reason.... please tell me someone was filming
– UKMonkey
14 hours ago
@UKMonkey Sorry, this was back before the youtubes, but man, I would have had hours of footage from those days.
– Richard U
14 hours ago
8
Plus one upvotes for usage of "diddled"
– dwizum
14 hours ago
2
Dear God, these stories are insane! We tend to be soft in the "white collar" world, I admit. ;)
– RandomUser3837
13 hours ago
3
@RandomUser3837 I came up from being a laborer all the way to where I am now. I have stories that would curl your hair. Including one about where a supervisor sent men to patch potholes in thick fog. It ended about as well as you can expect.
– Richard U
12 hours ago
|
show 4 more comments
2
"beat a plastic box fan with a 2x4 while it was running, sending parts flying." Youtube was invented for a reason.... please tell me someone was filming
– UKMonkey
14 hours ago
@UKMonkey Sorry, this was back before the youtubes, but man, I would have had hours of footage from those days.
– Richard U
14 hours ago
8
Plus one upvotes for usage of "diddled"
– dwizum
14 hours ago
2
Dear God, these stories are insane! We tend to be soft in the "white collar" world, I admit. ;)
– RandomUser3837
13 hours ago
3
@RandomUser3837 I came up from being a laborer all the way to where I am now. I have stories that would curl your hair. Including one about where a supervisor sent men to patch potholes in thick fog. It ended about as well as you can expect.
– Richard U
12 hours ago
2
2
"beat a plastic box fan with a 2x4 while it was running, sending parts flying." Youtube was invented for a reason.... please tell me someone was filming
– UKMonkey
14 hours ago
"beat a plastic box fan with a 2x4 while it was running, sending parts flying." Youtube was invented for a reason.... please tell me someone was filming
– UKMonkey
14 hours ago
@UKMonkey Sorry, this was back before the youtubes, but man, I would have had hours of footage from those days.
– Richard U
14 hours ago
@UKMonkey Sorry, this was back before the youtubes, but man, I would have had hours of footage from those days.
– Richard U
14 hours ago
8
8
Plus one upvotes for usage of "diddled"
– dwizum
14 hours ago
Plus one upvotes for usage of "diddled"
– dwizum
14 hours ago
2
2
Dear God, these stories are insane! We tend to be soft in the "white collar" world, I admit. ;)
– RandomUser3837
13 hours ago
Dear God, these stories are insane! We tend to be soft in the "white collar" world, I admit. ;)
– RandomUser3837
13 hours ago
3
3
@RandomUser3837 I came up from being a laborer all the way to where I am now. I have stories that would curl your hair. Including one about where a supervisor sent men to patch potholes in thick fog. It ended about as well as you can expect.
– Richard U
12 hours ago
@RandomUser3837 I came up from being a laborer all the way to where I am now. I have stories that would curl your hair. Including one about where a supervisor sent men to patch potholes in thick fog. It ended about as well as you can expect.
– Richard U
12 hours ago
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What are you whining about?
This guy has the character of a future president.
...but more seriously:
Find a new workplace.
( oh wait, you did, so what is it to you anymore?)
I agree, that is a very unpleasant work climate
However:
It is sadly very often a tactic in company management NOT a toxic person.(whatever that is now...)
- no fraternizing with subordinates
- shattering any attempt of raise negotiations by pointing at employees' flaws and mistakes
- management is always right and makes no mistakes, critique on management is insubordination
- subordinates need to be controlled, dominated even pitted against each other to raise productivity and undermine insubordination
- trust is a) not given but earned and b) trust in the wrong people can ruin a company
Did I forget any?
Oh yeah, be an ass and you won't be bothered...
"This guy has the character of a future president." Good thing Hillary wasn't elected.
– Mayo
7 hours ago
@Mayo as opposed to the one that got elected (; They're both the same only in different shades of colours, dare I say even grey...
– DigitalBlade969
6 hours ago
I felt like I had to tweak you over that line. :) I'm not a Trump hater. He's done a lot more good than I thought he would but I understand, completely understand, why he grates people the wrong way.
– Mayo
6 hours ago
@Mayo I thought you might. Oh he is a business man alright and he did very good things for corporate america as I predicted he would.I don't see that he fulfilled any worker's dreams though of those who voted for him from that class. Mind you,since I'm not in the U.S. I might have missed it.I find it very bewildering and telling of the electorate that someone with his character and statements gets elected but I was early on afraid that he might make it.I look forward to seeing Kanye next in office...brave new world...
– DigitalBlade969
6 hours ago
Of course trust is earned...but after two years it became pretty clear the problem was not on my side. Not to mention my predecessor left for the exact same reasons as I did. It's not coincidental.
– RandomUser3837
53 mins ago
add a comment |
What are you whining about?
This guy has the character of a future president.
...but more seriously:
Find a new workplace.
( oh wait, you did, so what is it to you anymore?)
I agree, that is a very unpleasant work climate
However:
It is sadly very often a tactic in company management NOT a toxic person.(whatever that is now...)
- no fraternizing with subordinates
- shattering any attempt of raise negotiations by pointing at employees' flaws and mistakes
- management is always right and makes no mistakes, critique on management is insubordination
- subordinates need to be controlled, dominated even pitted against each other to raise productivity and undermine insubordination
- trust is a) not given but earned and b) trust in the wrong people can ruin a company
Did I forget any?
Oh yeah, be an ass and you won't be bothered...
"This guy has the character of a future president." Good thing Hillary wasn't elected.
– Mayo
7 hours ago
@Mayo as opposed to the one that got elected (; They're both the same only in different shades of colours, dare I say even grey...
– DigitalBlade969
6 hours ago
I felt like I had to tweak you over that line. :) I'm not a Trump hater. He's done a lot more good than I thought he would but I understand, completely understand, why he grates people the wrong way.
– Mayo
6 hours ago
@Mayo I thought you might. Oh he is a business man alright and he did very good things for corporate america as I predicted he would.I don't see that he fulfilled any worker's dreams though of those who voted for him from that class. Mind you,since I'm not in the U.S. I might have missed it.I find it very bewildering and telling of the electorate that someone with his character and statements gets elected but I was early on afraid that he might make it.I look forward to seeing Kanye next in office...brave new world...
– DigitalBlade969
6 hours ago
Of course trust is earned...but after two years it became pretty clear the problem was not on my side. Not to mention my predecessor left for the exact same reasons as I did. It's not coincidental.
– RandomUser3837
53 mins ago
add a comment |
What are you whining about?
This guy has the character of a future president.
...but more seriously:
Find a new workplace.
( oh wait, you did, so what is it to you anymore?)
I agree, that is a very unpleasant work climate
However:
It is sadly very often a tactic in company management NOT a toxic person.(whatever that is now...)
- no fraternizing with subordinates
- shattering any attempt of raise negotiations by pointing at employees' flaws and mistakes
- management is always right and makes no mistakes, critique on management is insubordination
- subordinates need to be controlled, dominated even pitted against each other to raise productivity and undermine insubordination
- trust is a) not given but earned and b) trust in the wrong people can ruin a company
Did I forget any?
Oh yeah, be an ass and you won't be bothered...
What are you whining about?
This guy has the character of a future president.
...but more seriously:
Find a new workplace.
( oh wait, you did, so what is it to you anymore?)
I agree, that is a very unpleasant work climate
However:
It is sadly very often a tactic in company management NOT a toxic person.(whatever that is now...)
- no fraternizing with subordinates
- shattering any attempt of raise negotiations by pointing at employees' flaws and mistakes
- management is always right and makes no mistakes, critique on management is insubordination
- subordinates need to be controlled, dominated even pitted against each other to raise productivity and undermine insubordination
- trust is a) not given but earned and b) trust in the wrong people can ruin a company
Did I forget any?
Oh yeah, be an ass and you won't be bothered...
edited 7 hours ago
answered 7 hours ago
DigitalBlade969DigitalBlade969
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"This guy has the character of a future president." Good thing Hillary wasn't elected.
– Mayo
7 hours ago
@Mayo as opposed to the one that got elected (; They're both the same only in different shades of colours, dare I say even grey...
– DigitalBlade969
6 hours ago
I felt like I had to tweak you over that line. :) I'm not a Trump hater. He's done a lot more good than I thought he would but I understand, completely understand, why he grates people the wrong way.
– Mayo
6 hours ago
@Mayo I thought you might. Oh he is a business man alright and he did very good things for corporate america as I predicted he would.I don't see that he fulfilled any worker's dreams though of those who voted for him from that class. Mind you,since I'm not in the U.S. I might have missed it.I find it very bewildering and telling of the electorate that someone with his character and statements gets elected but I was early on afraid that he might make it.I look forward to seeing Kanye next in office...brave new world...
– DigitalBlade969
6 hours ago
Of course trust is earned...but after two years it became pretty clear the problem was not on my side. Not to mention my predecessor left for the exact same reasons as I did. It's not coincidental.
– RandomUser3837
53 mins ago
add a comment |
"This guy has the character of a future president." Good thing Hillary wasn't elected.
– Mayo
7 hours ago
@Mayo as opposed to the one that got elected (; They're both the same only in different shades of colours, dare I say even grey...
– DigitalBlade969
6 hours ago
I felt like I had to tweak you over that line. :) I'm not a Trump hater. He's done a lot more good than I thought he would but I understand, completely understand, why he grates people the wrong way.
– Mayo
6 hours ago
@Mayo I thought you might. Oh he is a business man alright and he did very good things for corporate america as I predicted he would.I don't see that he fulfilled any worker's dreams though of those who voted for him from that class. Mind you,since I'm not in the U.S. I might have missed it.I find it very bewildering and telling of the electorate that someone with his character and statements gets elected but I was early on afraid that he might make it.I look forward to seeing Kanye next in office...brave new world...
– DigitalBlade969
6 hours ago
Of course trust is earned...but after two years it became pretty clear the problem was not on my side. Not to mention my predecessor left for the exact same reasons as I did. It's not coincidental.
– RandomUser3837
53 mins ago
"This guy has the character of a future president." Good thing Hillary wasn't elected.
– Mayo
7 hours ago
"This guy has the character of a future president." Good thing Hillary wasn't elected.
– Mayo
7 hours ago
@Mayo as opposed to the one that got elected (; They're both the same only in different shades of colours, dare I say even grey...
– DigitalBlade969
6 hours ago
@Mayo as opposed to the one that got elected (; They're both the same only in different shades of colours, dare I say even grey...
– DigitalBlade969
6 hours ago
I felt like I had to tweak you over that line. :) I'm not a Trump hater. He's done a lot more good than I thought he would but I understand, completely understand, why he grates people the wrong way.
– Mayo
6 hours ago
I felt like I had to tweak you over that line. :) I'm not a Trump hater. He's done a lot more good than I thought he would but I understand, completely understand, why he grates people the wrong way.
– Mayo
6 hours ago
@Mayo I thought you might. Oh he is a business man alright and he did very good things for corporate america as I predicted he would.I don't see that he fulfilled any worker's dreams though of those who voted for him from that class. Mind you,since I'm not in the U.S. I might have missed it.I find it very bewildering and telling of the electorate that someone with his character and statements gets elected but I was early on afraid that he might make it.I look forward to seeing Kanye next in office...brave new world...
– DigitalBlade969
6 hours ago
@Mayo I thought you might. Oh he is a business man alright and he did very good things for corporate america as I predicted he would.I don't see that he fulfilled any worker's dreams though of those who voted for him from that class. Mind you,since I'm not in the U.S. I might have missed it.I find it very bewildering and telling of the electorate that someone with his character and statements gets elected but I was early on afraid that he might make it.I look forward to seeing Kanye next in office...brave new world...
– DigitalBlade969
6 hours ago
Of course trust is earned...but after two years it became pretty clear the problem was not on my side. Not to mention my predecessor left for the exact same reasons as I did. It's not coincidental.
– RandomUser3837
53 mins ago
Of course trust is earned...but after two years it became pretty clear the problem was not on my side. Not to mention my predecessor left for the exact same reasons as I did. It's not coincidental.
– RandomUser3837
53 mins ago
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Hello, have you read glassdoor's policies or FAQs?
– Homerothompson
15 hours ago
2
Is there a chance that referencing the manager by role would uniquely identify one person? For example, if you reference a financial manager but the company only has one person with this title.
– Kozaky
15 hours ago
3
This is what your exit interview is for - if the company cares, they'll ask why you're leaving and you can say because of you and "John" ... if they don't care, then you won't be asked. If all the people leaving cite "John" as their reason, it's up to HR & his manager to establish IF there's a problem and remove him. Do not assume there's a problem just because you're leaving... it might be a policy that works very well for the company in ways you don't know.
– UKMonkey
14 hours ago
2
The manager may be a good manager - just that you had a clash of personalities perhaps. It happens.
– Ed Heal
14 hours ago
2
@randomuser3837 yes, I am serious,and they're not alone. Some companies PRIDE themselves on having a high staff turnover and only employing cheap undergrads... They get people who don't know better, leaning over backwards, jumping as high as they say. You assuming that his boss doesn't know what he's like is a significant (and wrong) assumption. They put him there... They know very well what he's like.
– UKMonkey
8 hours ago