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My primary OS is Linux (Fedora 28 to be specific), but I keep a VM box of Windows 10 handy incase I ever need it, I haven't for awhile but I found a game that has to be downloaded from the Windows Store that I wanted to try and get working in WINE. Alot of other "Windows Only" games have been running better and better in WINE since DXVK entered the scene, including new triple-A titles, so I figured it'd be worth a shot.
But I'm running into an odd issue with this.
I keep alot of my games on an NTFS partition that both Windows and Linux can have read/write access to, for simplicity. (I use to dual-boot, having access to those games on both OS' just made my life simpler), some of those games were downloaded while on Windows, but I have permissions to access and modify those files when on Linux, however for this specific game, I can't seem to get Linux to be able to access the files at all. Even root is coming up with Access Denied issues, and I'm not sure why.



I've never downloaded an app from the windows store and tried to run it on Linux before now, is this just some kind of DRM protection issue I'm encountering, or is there some special trick to getting access to these files?










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  • Does syslog say something? What are the complete mount options?

    – Eugen Rieck
    Jan 7 at 11:30











  • It's mounted during boot with fstab, but I also tried a simple mount --rw /dev/sdb1 /run/media/user and have the same problem. I have access to other files on the drive just fine. fstab entry: UUID=6A20BDF120BDC47B /run/media/Joker/Games auto defaults 0 0

    – Josh Raymond
    Jan 7 at 11:32













  • 1) Which NTFS driver are you using, ntfs-3g or the built-in kernel driver? 2) What specific files are you trying to access? 3) How specifically are you trying to access them? What action gives this error message? 4) What do the files or folders look like under ls -ld?

    – grawity
    Jan 7 at 11:56













  • I'm 99% certain the Fedora kernel uses ntfs-3g but I've tried with both mount and ntfs-3g commands to mount the drive. Specifically, the files downloaded for Sea of Thieves by the Windows store. Any form of accessing them, i've tried running the games .exe through WINE, aswell as just viewing config/settings files with gedit, nano and pluma, even using root to try and view the text files says permission denied

    – Josh Raymond
    Jan 7 at 12:01











  • ls -ld on the /run/media/user/Games folder, drwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 32768 Jan 7 03:30 ls -ld on the /run/media/user/Games/WindowsApp/Microsoft.SeaofThieves folder, drwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 4096 Jan 7 02:36 .

    – Josh Raymond
    Jan 7 at 12:07
















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My primary OS is Linux (Fedora 28 to be specific), but I keep a VM box of Windows 10 handy incase I ever need it, I haven't for awhile but I found a game that has to be downloaded from the Windows Store that I wanted to try and get working in WINE. Alot of other "Windows Only" games have been running better and better in WINE since DXVK entered the scene, including new triple-A titles, so I figured it'd be worth a shot.
But I'm running into an odd issue with this.
I keep alot of my games on an NTFS partition that both Windows and Linux can have read/write access to, for simplicity. (I use to dual-boot, having access to those games on both OS' just made my life simpler), some of those games were downloaded while on Windows, but I have permissions to access and modify those files when on Linux, however for this specific game, I can't seem to get Linux to be able to access the files at all. Even root is coming up with Access Denied issues, and I'm not sure why.



I've never downloaded an app from the windows store and tried to run it on Linux before now, is this just some kind of DRM protection issue I'm encountering, or is there some special trick to getting access to these files?










share|improve this question























  • Does syslog say something? What are the complete mount options?

    – Eugen Rieck
    Jan 7 at 11:30











  • It's mounted during boot with fstab, but I also tried a simple mount --rw /dev/sdb1 /run/media/user and have the same problem. I have access to other files on the drive just fine. fstab entry: UUID=6A20BDF120BDC47B /run/media/Joker/Games auto defaults 0 0

    – Josh Raymond
    Jan 7 at 11:32













  • 1) Which NTFS driver are you using, ntfs-3g or the built-in kernel driver? 2) What specific files are you trying to access? 3) How specifically are you trying to access them? What action gives this error message? 4) What do the files or folders look like under ls -ld?

    – grawity
    Jan 7 at 11:56













  • I'm 99% certain the Fedora kernel uses ntfs-3g but I've tried with both mount and ntfs-3g commands to mount the drive. Specifically, the files downloaded for Sea of Thieves by the Windows store. Any form of accessing them, i've tried running the games .exe through WINE, aswell as just viewing config/settings files with gedit, nano and pluma, even using root to try and view the text files says permission denied

    – Josh Raymond
    Jan 7 at 12:01











  • ls -ld on the /run/media/user/Games folder, drwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 32768 Jan 7 03:30 ls -ld on the /run/media/user/Games/WindowsApp/Microsoft.SeaofThieves folder, drwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 4096 Jan 7 02:36 .

    – Josh Raymond
    Jan 7 at 12:07














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My primary OS is Linux (Fedora 28 to be specific), but I keep a VM box of Windows 10 handy incase I ever need it, I haven't for awhile but I found a game that has to be downloaded from the Windows Store that I wanted to try and get working in WINE. Alot of other "Windows Only" games have been running better and better in WINE since DXVK entered the scene, including new triple-A titles, so I figured it'd be worth a shot.
But I'm running into an odd issue with this.
I keep alot of my games on an NTFS partition that both Windows and Linux can have read/write access to, for simplicity. (I use to dual-boot, having access to those games on both OS' just made my life simpler), some of those games were downloaded while on Windows, but I have permissions to access and modify those files when on Linux, however for this specific game, I can't seem to get Linux to be able to access the files at all. Even root is coming up with Access Denied issues, and I'm not sure why.



I've never downloaded an app from the windows store and tried to run it on Linux before now, is this just some kind of DRM protection issue I'm encountering, or is there some special trick to getting access to these files?










share|improve this question














My primary OS is Linux (Fedora 28 to be specific), but I keep a VM box of Windows 10 handy incase I ever need it, I haven't for awhile but I found a game that has to be downloaded from the Windows Store that I wanted to try and get working in WINE. Alot of other "Windows Only" games have been running better and better in WINE since DXVK entered the scene, including new triple-A titles, so I figured it'd be worth a shot.
But I'm running into an odd issue with this.
I keep alot of my games on an NTFS partition that both Windows and Linux can have read/write access to, for simplicity. (I use to dual-boot, having access to those games on both OS' just made my life simpler), some of those games were downloaded while on Windows, but I have permissions to access and modify those files when on Linux, however for this specific game, I can't seem to get Linux to be able to access the files at all. Even root is coming up with Access Denied issues, and I'm not sure why.



I've never downloaded an app from the windows store and tried to run it on Linux before now, is this just some kind of DRM protection issue I'm encountering, or is there some special trick to getting access to these files?







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  • Does syslog say something? What are the complete mount options?

    – Eugen Rieck
    Jan 7 at 11:30











  • It's mounted during boot with fstab, but I also tried a simple mount --rw /dev/sdb1 /run/media/user and have the same problem. I have access to other files on the drive just fine. fstab entry: UUID=6A20BDF120BDC47B /run/media/Joker/Games auto defaults 0 0

    – Josh Raymond
    Jan 7 at 11:32













  • 1) Which NTFS driver are you using, ntfs-3g or the built-in kernel driver? 2) What specific files are you trying to access? 3) How specifically are you trying to access them? What action gives this error message? 4) What do the files or folders look like under ls -ld?

    – grawity
    Jan 7 at 11:56













  • I'm 99% certain the Fedora kernel uses ntfs-3g but I've tried with both mount and ntfs-3g commands to mount the drive. Specifically, the files downloaded for Sea of Thieves by the Windows store. Any form of accessing them, i've tried running the games .exe through WINE, aswell as just viewing config/settings files with gedit, nano and pluma, even using root to try and view the text files says permission denied

    – Josh Raymond
    Jan 7 at 12:01











  • ls -ld on the /run/media/user/Games folder, drwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 32768 Jan 7 03:30 ls -ld on the /run/media/user/Games/WindowsApp/Microsoft.SeaofThieves folder, drwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 4096 Jan 7 02:36 .

    – Josh Raymond
    Jan 7 at 12:07



















  • Does syslog say something? What are the complete mount options?

    – Eugen Rieck
    Jan 7 at 11:30











  • It's mounted during boot with fstab, but I also tried a simple mount --rw /dev/sdb1 /run/media/user and have the same problem. I have access to other files on the drive just fine. fstab entry: UUID=6A20BDF120BDC47B /run/media/Joker/Games auto defaults 0 0

    – Josh Raymond
    Jan 7 at 11:32













  • 1) Which NTFS driver are you using, ntfs-3g or the built-in kernel driver? 2) What specific files are you trying to access? 3) How specifically are you trying to access them? What action gives this error message? 4) What do the files or folders look like under ls -ld?

    – grawity
    Jan 7 at 11:56













  • I'm 99% certain the Fedora kernel uses ntfs-3g but I've tried with both mount and ntfs-3g commands to mount the drive. Specifically, the files downloaded for Sea of Thieves by the Windows store. Any form of accessing them, i've tried running the games .exe through WINE, aswell as just viewing config/settings files with gedit, nano and pluma, even using root to try and view the text files says permission denied

    – Josh Raymond
    Jan 7 at 12:01











  • ls -ld on the /run/media/user/Games folder, drwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 32768 Jan 7 03:30 ls -ld on the /run/media/user/Games/WindowsApp/Microsoft.SeaofThieves folder, drwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 4096 Jan 7 02:36 .

    – Josh Raymond
    Jan 7 at 12:07

















Does syslog say something? What are the complete mount options?

– Eugen Rieck
Jan 7 at 11:30





Does syslog say something? What are the complete mount options?

– Eugen Rieck
Jan 7 at 11:30













It's mounted during boot with fstab, but I also tried a simple mount --rw /dev/sdb1 /run/media/user and have the same problem. I have access to other files on the drive just fine. fstab entry: UUID=6A20BDF120BDC47B /run/media/Joker/Games auto defaults 0 0

– Josh Raymond
Jan 7 at 11:32







It's mounted during boot with fstab, but I also tried a simple mount --rw /dev/sdb1 /run/media/user and have the same problem. I have access to other files on the drive just fine. fstab entry: UUID=6A20BDF120BDC47B /run/media/Joker/Games auto defaults 0 0

– Josh Raymond
Jan 7 at 11:32















1) Which NTFS driver are you using, ntfs-3g or the built-in kernel driver? 2) What specific files are you trying to access? 3) How specifically are you trying to access them? What action gives this error message? 4) What do the files or folders look like under ls -ld?

– grawity
Jan 7 at 11:56







1) Which NTFS driver are you using, ntfs-3g or the built-in kernel driver? 2) What specific files are you trying to access? 3) How specifically are you trying to access them? What action gives this error message? 4) What do the files or folders look like under ls -ld?

– grawity
Jan 7 at 11:56















I'm 99% certain the Fedora kernel uses ntfs-3g but I've tried with both mount and ntfs-3g commands to mount the drive. Specifically, the files downloaded for Sea of Thieves by the Windows store. Any form of accessing them, i've tried running the games .exe through WINE, aswell as just viewing config/settings files with gedit, nano and pluma, even using root to try and view the text files says permission denied

– Josh Raymond
Jan 7 at 12:01





I'm 99% certain the Fedora kernel uses ntfs-3g but I've tried with both mount and ntfs-3g commands to mount the drive. Specifically, the files downloaded for Sea of Thieves by the Windows store. Any form of accessing them, i've tried running the games .exe through WINE, aswell as just viewing config/settings files with gedit, nano and pluma, even using root to try and view the text files says permission denied

– Josh Raymond
Jan 7 at 12:01













ls -ld on the /run/media/user/Games folder, drwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 32768 Jan 7 03:30 ls -ld on the /run/media/user/Games/WindowsApp/Microsoft.SeaofThieves folder, drwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 4096 Jan 7 02:36 .

– Josh Raymond
Jan 7 at 12:07





ls -ld on the /run/media/user/Games folder, drwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 32768 Jan 7 03:30 ls -ld on the /run/media/user/Games/WindowsApp/Microsoft.SeaofThieves folder, drwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 4096 Jan 7 02:36 .

– Josh Raymond
Jan 7 at 12:07










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I usually get that kind of error when I launch windows and then I acidentally turn off the machine without correctly shutting down using start menu. I suggest you boot into Windows first and then try to access your Windows files again in Linux.






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  • This is a different issue than that. The issue you're talking about usually affects the entire partition, not specific files. It's because of how Windows closes (or doesn't) it's access to NTFS partitions when it shuts down, forcing the partition into a read-only mode until the issue is resolved. (either by starting windows and doing a proper shutdown, or with the ntfsfix command. The partition itself is fine, and other files created by Windows on the VM are accessible fine.)

    – Josh Raymond
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  • Did you try a tool to change all permissions? (top-password.com/take-ownership-pro.html) Or maybe setting permissions to Everyone instead of only one user?

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    Jan 7 at 13:19











  • I have tried both of those, no change

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    Jan 9 at 9:59











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I usually get that kind of error when I launch windows and then I acidentally turn off the machine without correctly shutting down using start menu. I suggest you boot into Windows first and then try to access your Windows files again in Linux.






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  • This is a different issue than that. The issue you're talking about usually affects the entire partition, not specific files. It's because of how Windows closes (or doesn't) it's access to NTFS partitions when it shuts down, forcing the partition into a read-only mode until the issue is resolved. (either by starting windows and doing a proper shutdown, or with the ntfsfix command. The partition itself is fine, and other files created by Windows on the VM are accessible fine.)

    – Josh Raymond
    Jan 7 at 13:06











  • Did you try a tool to change all permissions? (top-password.com/take-ownership-pro.html) Or maybe setting permissions to Everyone instead of only one user?

    – G. L.
    Jan 7 at 13:19











  • I have tried both of those, no change

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    Jan 9 at 9:59
















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I usually get that kind of error when I launch windows and then I acidentally turn off the machine without correctly shutting down using start menu. I suggest you boot into Windows first and then try to access your Windows files again in Linux.






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  • This is a different issue than that. The issue you're talking about usually affects the entire partition, not specific files. It's because of how Windows closes (or doesn't) it's access to NTFS partitions when it shuts down, forcing the partition into a read-only mode until the issue is resolved. (either by starting windows and doing a proper shutdown, or with the ntfsfix command. The partition itself is fine, and other files created by Windows on the VM are accessible fine.)

    – Josh Raymond
    Jan 7 at 13:06











  • Did you try a tool to change all permissions? (top-password.com/take-ownership-pro.html) Or maybe setting permissions to Everyone instead of only one user?

    – G. L.
    Jan 7 at 13:19











  • I have tried both of those, no change

    – Josh Raymond
    Jan 9 at 9:59














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I usually get that kind of error when I launch windows and then I acidentally turn off the machine without correctly shutting down using start menu. I suggest you boot into Windows first and then try to access your Windows files again in Linux.






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I usually get that kind of error when I launch windows and then I acidentally turn off the machine without correctly shutting down using start menu. I suggest you boot into Windows first and then try to access your Windows files again in Linux.







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  • This is a different issue than that. The issue you're talking about usually affects the entire partition, not specific files. It's because of how Windows closes (or doesn't) it's access to NTFS partitions when it shuts down, forcing the partition into a read-only mode until the issue is resolved. (either by starting windows and doing a proper shutdown, or with the ntfsfix command. The partition itself is fine, and other files created by Windows on the VM are accessible fine.)

    – Josh Raymond
    Jan 7 at 13:06











  • Did you try a tool to change all permissions? (top-password.com/take-ownership-pro.html) Or maybe setting permissions to Everyone instead of only one user?

    – G. L.
    Jan 7 at 13:19











  • I have tried both of those, no change

    – Josh Raymond
    Jan 9 at 9:59



















  • This is a different issue than that. The issue you're talking about usually affects the entire partition, not specific files. It's because of how Windows closes (or doesn't) it's access to NTFS partitions when it shuts down, forcing the partition into a read-only mode until the issue is resolved. (either by starting windows and doing a proper shutdown, or with the ntfsfix command. The partition itself is fine, and other files created by Windows on the VM are accessible fine.)

    – Josh Raymond
    Jan 7 at 13:06











  • Did you try a tool to change all permissions? (top-password.com/take-ownership-pro.html) Or maybe setting permissions to Everyone instead of only one user?

    – G. L.
    Jan 7 at 13:19











  • I have tried both of those, no change

    – Josh Raymond
    Jan 9 at 9:59

















This is a different issue than that. The issue you're talking about usually affects the entire partition, not specific files. It's because of how Windows closes (or doesn't) it's access to NTFS partitions when it shuts down, forcing the partition into a read-only mode until the issue is resolved. (either by starting windows and doing a proper shutdown, or with the ntfsfix command. The partition itself is fine, and other files created by Windows on the VM are accessible fine.)

– Josh Raymond
Jan 7 at 13:06





This is a different issue than that. The issue you're talking about usually affects the entire partition, not specific files. It's because of how Windows closes (or doesn't) it's access to NTFS partitions when it shuts down, forcing the partition into a read-only mode until the issue is resolved. (either by starting windows and doing a proper shutdown, or with the ntfsfix command. The partition itself is fine, and other files created by Windows on the VM are accessible fine.)

– Josh Raymond
Jan 7 at 13:06













Did you try a tool to change all permissions? (top-password.com/take-ownership-pro.html) Or maybe setting permissions to Everyone instead of only one user?

– G. L.
Jan 7 at 13:19





Did you try a tool to change all permissions? (top-password.com/take-ownership-pro.html) Or maybe setting permissions to Everyone instead of only one user?

– G. L.
Jan 7 at 13:19













I have tried both of those, no change

– Josh Raymond
Jan 9 at 9:59





I have tried both of those, no change

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