What's the earliest instance of a “Beauty is in the eye of the beholder” reference to beholders?
Is there any recorded use of the phrase, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" being used in a commercially available D&D campaign of any edition, specifically to reference (secretly or overtly) a beholder that appears in the course of the campaign? What's the earliest instance?
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Is there any recorded use of the phrase, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" being used in a commercially available D&D campaign of any edition, specifically to reference (secretly or overtly) a beholder that appears in the course of the campaign? What's the earliest instance?
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Related: Beauty and beholder in respect to other senses
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I've updated this to ask for the earliest instance since that will help us filter to a “best” answer rather than merely collecting an ongoing list of all the times it ever happened. (Which is probably a lot.)
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Thanks @doppelgreener makes sense.
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Is there any recorded use of the phrase, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" being used in a commercially available D&D campaign of any edition, specifically to reference (secretly or overtly) a beholder that appears in the course of the campaign? What's the earliest instance?
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Is there any recorded use of the phrase, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" being used in a commercially available D&D campaign of any edition, specifically to reference (secretly or overtly) a beholder that appears in the course of the campaign? What's the earliest instance?
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Related: Beauty and beholder in respect to other senses
– Peter Mortensen
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I've updated this to ask for the earliest instance since that will help us filter to a “best” answer rather than merely collecting an ongoing list of all the times it ever happened. (Which is probably a lot.)
– doppelgreener♦
yesterday
Thanks @doppelgreener makes sense.
– lightcat
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@ShadowRanger At best that comment was chatting, and possibly it was attempting to answer the question. Neither usage are what the commenting feature is provided for, so your comment was removed. See this FAQ for more information. Thanks!
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Related: Beauty and beholder in respect to other senses
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I've updated this to ask for the earliest instance since that will help us filter to a “best” answer rather than merely collecting an ongoing list of all the times it ever happened. (Which is probably a lot.)
– doppelgreener♦
yesterday
Thanks @doppelgreener makes sense.
– lightcat
yesterday
@ShadowRanger At best that comment was chatting, and possibly it was attempting to answer the question. Neither usage are what the commenting feature is provided for, so your comment was removed. See this FAQ for more information. Thanks!
– SevenSidedDie♦
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Related: Beauty and beholder in respect to other senses
– Peter Mortensen
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Related: Beauty and beholder in respect to other senses
– Peter Mortensen
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I've updated this to ask for the earliest instance since that will help us filter to a “best” answer rather than merely collecting an ongoing list of all the times it ever happened. (Which is probably a lot.)
– doppelgreener♦
yesterday
I've updated this to ask for the earliest instance since that will help us filter to a “best” answer rather than merely collecting an ongoing list of all the times it ever happened. (Which is probably a lot.)
– doppelgreener♦
yesterday
Thanks @doppelgreener makes sense.
– lightcat
yesterday
Thanks @doppelgreener makes sense.
– lightcat
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First time I heard it referenced in Dungeons and Dragons was in the 1987 Saturday morning cartoon.
It was Episode 2, The Eye of the Beholder, specifically at this point during their conversation with Dungeon Master.
Not really published though and not exactly canon.
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This does at least establish by precedent that it was very early on that the reference was occurring to people and being used.
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Yamara was comic strip which appeared in Dragon magazine. The first strip published in May 1988 made this joke:
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Not exactly a campaign but an early issue of Dragon magazine had a “cute” drawing of a beholder on the cover. The issue’s tagline is “Beauty is in the eye of — oh, skip it.” It was their 1990 April issue, #156:
Cover by Daniel Horne © TSR & WotC, used under Fair Use for teaching and cultural critique purposes
(This issue is in the tradition of April issues of Dragon being silly for April Fools’. If you ever wanted to encounter the dread Bubble Dragon or a herd of Blink Mammoths, this is your DM’s issue.)
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The back cover of Xanathars guide to Everything 5E (lore-wise written by the beholder crime-lord "The Xanathar") has a similar phrase though not exactly the same:
"Beauty and Guile Are in the Eyes of the Beholder"
From www.tsrarchive.com/5e/5e-hb-acc.html
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This is very likely the latest instance. Good call, and I can't believe I never noticed it, even though I don't have the book I know people who do and have looked through it.
– lightcat
22 hours ago
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First time I heard it referenced in Dungeons and Dragons was in the 1987 Saturday morning cartoon.
It was Episode 2, The Eye of the Beholder, specifically at this point during their conversation with Dungeon Master.
Not really published though and not exactly canon.
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This does at least establish by precedent that it was very early on that the reference was occurring to people and being used.
– doppelgreener♦
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First time I heard it referenced in Dungeons and Dragons was in the 1987 Saturday morning cartoon.
It was Episode 2, The Eye of the Beholder, specifically at this point during their conversation with Dungeon Master.
Not really published though and not exactly canon.
edited 19 hours ago
Dave Sherohman
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This does at least establish by precedent that it was very early on that the reference was occurring to people and being used.
– doppelgreener♦
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add a comment |
First time I heard it referenced in Dungeons and Dragons was in the 1987 Saturday morning cartoon.
It was Episode 2, The Eye of the Beholder, specifically at this point during their conversation with Dungeon Master.
Not really published though and not exactly canon.
edited 19 hours ago
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First time I heard it referenced in Dungeons and Dragons was in the 1987 Saturday morning cartoon.
It was Episode 2, The Eye of the Beholder, specifically at this point during their conversation with Dungeon Master.
Not really published though and not exactly canon.
edited 19 hours ago
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This does at least establish by precedent that it was very early on that the reference was occurring to people and being used.
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This does at least establish by precedent that it was very early on that the reference was occurring to people and being used.
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This does at least establish by precedent that it was very early on that the reference was occurring to people and being used.
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This does at least establish by precedent that it was very early on that the reference was occurring to people and being used.
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Yamara was comic strip which appeared in Dragon magazine. The first strip published in May 1988 made this joke:
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Not exactly a campaign but an early issue of Dragon magazine had a “cute” drawing of a beholder on the cover. The issue’s tagline is “Beauty is in the eye of — oh, skip it.” It was their 1990 April issue, #156:
Cover by Daniel Horne © TSR & WotC, used under Fair Use for teaching and cultural critique purposes
(This issue is in the tradition of April issues of Dragon being silly for April Fools’. If you ever wanted to encounter the dread Bubble Dragon or a herd of Blink Mammoths, this is your DM’s issue.)
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Not exactly a campaign but an early issue of Dragon magazine had a “cute” drawing of a beholder on the cover. The issue’s tagline is “Beauty is in the eye of — oh, skip it.” It was their 1990 April issue, #156:
Cover by Daniel Horne © TSR & WotC, used under Fair Use for teaching and cultural critique purposes
(This issue is in the tradition of April issues of Dragon being silly for April Fools’. If you ever wanted to encounter the dread Bubble Dragon or a herd of Blink Mammoths, this is your DM’s issue.)
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Not exactly a campaign but an early issue of Dragon magazine had a “cute” drawing of a beholder on the cover. The issue’s tagline is “Beauty is in the eye of — oh, skip it.” It was their 1990 April issue, #156:
Cover by Daniel Horne © TSR & WotC, used under Fair Use for teaching and cultural critique purposes
(This issue is in the tradition of April issues of Dragon being silly for April Fools’. If you ever wanted to encounter the dread Bubble Dragon or a herd of Blink Mammoths, this is your DM’s issue.)
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Not exactly a campaign but an early issue of Dragon magazine had a “cute” drawing of a beholder on the cover. The issue’s tagline is “Beauty is in the eye of — oh, skip it.” It was their 1990 April issue, #156:
Cover by Daniel Horne © TSR & WotC, used under Fair Use for teaching and cultural critique purposes
(This issue is in the tradition of April issues of Dragon being silly for April Fools’. If you ever wanted to encounter the dread Bubble Dragon or a herd of Blink Mammoths, this is your DM’s issue.)
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The back cover of Xanathars guide to Everything 5E (lore-wise written by the beholder crime-lord "The Xanathar") has a similar phrase though not exactly the same:
"Beauty and Guile Are in the Eyes of the Beholder"
From www.tsrarchive.com/5e/5e-hb-acc.html
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This is very likely the latest instance. Good call, and I can't believe I never noticed it, even though I don't have the book I know people who do and have looked through it.
– lightcat
22 hours ago
Edited to add an image of the back cover.
– lightcat
3 hours ago
add a comment |
The back cover of Xanathars guide to Everything 5E (lore-wise written by the beholder crime-lord "The Xanathar") has a similar phrase though not exactly the same:
"Beauty and Guile Are in the Eyes of the Beholder"
From www.tsrarchive.com/5e/5e-hb-acc.html
edited 2 hours ago
lightcat
1,532223
answered yesterday
rpgstarrpgstar
2,001845
1
This is very likely the latest instance. Good call, and I can't believe I never noticed it, even though I don't have the book I know people who do and have looked through it.
– lightcat
22 hours ago
Edited to add an image of the back cover.
– lightcat
3 hours ago
add a comment |
The back cover of Xanathars guide to Everything 5E (lore-wise written by the beholder crime-lord "The Xanathar") has a similar phrase though not exactly the same:
"Beauty and Guile Are in the Eyes of the Beholder"
From www.tsrarchive.com/5e/5e-hb-acc.html
edited 2 hours ago
lightcat
1,532223
answered yesterday
rpgstarrpgstar
2,001845
The back cover of Xanathars guide to Everything 5E (lore-wise written by the beholder crime-lord "The Xanathar") has a similar phrase though not exactly the same:
"Beauty and Guile Are in the Eyes of the Beholder"
From www.tsrarchive.com/5e/5e-hb-acc.html
edited 2 hours ago
lightcat
1,532223
answered yesterday
rpgstarrpgstar
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lightcat
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This is very likely the latest instance. Good call, and I can't believe I never noticed it, even though I don't have the book I know people who do and have looked through it.
– lightcat
22 hours ago
Edited to add an image of the back cover.
– lightcat
3 hours ago
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This is very likely the latest instance. Good call, and I can't believe I never noticed it, even though I don't have the book I know people who do and have looked through it.
– lightcat
22 hours ago
Edited to add an image of the back cover.
– lightcat
3 hours ago
1
1
This is very likely the latest instance. Good call, and I can't believe I never noticed it, even though I don't have the book I know people who do and have looked through it.
– lightcat
22 hours ago
This is very likely the latest instance. Good call, and I can't believe I never noticed it, even though I don't have the book I know people who do and have looked through it.
– lightcat
22 hours ago
Edited to add an image of the back cover.
– lightcat
3 hours ago
Edited to add an image of the back cover.
– lightcat
3 hours ago
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Thanks @doppelgreener makes sense.
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