WinXP dir command: 3 and 4 char extensions are the same?











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I'm trying to recursively search a directory tree to find all of the .asp files using the following command:



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For some reason, this returns not only the asp files, but also the aspx files.



How can I force it to ignore the aspx files?










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    I'm trying to recursively search a directory tree to find all of the .asp files using the following command:



    dir *.asp /s


    For some reason, this returns not only the asp files, but also the aspx files.



    How can I force it to ignore the aspx files?










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      I'm trying to recursively search a directory tree to find all of the .asp files using the following command:



      dir *.asp /s


      For some reason, this returns not only the asp files, but also the aspx files.



      How can I force it to ignore the aspx files?










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      I'm trying to recursively search a directory tree to find all of the .asp files using the following command:



      dir *.asp /s


      For some reason, this returns not only the asp files, but also the aspx files.



      How can I force it to ignore the aspx files?







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          dir /x


          For compatibility reasons, Windows generates a 8.3 name for every long file name created, and wildcard matching code (FindFirstFile()) checks both the original and shortened names. Use dir /x to see what short names are assigned to each file.



          The "extension" part of a 8.3 name is always created by simply truncating the last extension to at most 3 characters: .aspx to .ASP





          When using the NTFS filesystem, 8.3 name creation can be disabled system-wide using:



          fsutil behavior set disable8dot3


          However, this won't affect existing names. You will have to rename each file and then rename it back to its original name.





          See also: Directory search in Windows Command Prompt shows incorrect output!






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          • Well, that's a pretty good explanation of why - but it seems like there isn't a way to then force the dir command to ignore the aspx files?
            – chris
            Jan 28 '11 at 14:17






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            @chris: No. But you can either remove the 8.3 names from your system (will likely save you a lot of trouble later), or filter the dir output with dir /b/s *.asp | findstr /ile .asp -- this discards lines that do not end with .asp.
            – grawity
            Jan 28 '11 at 14:19












          • according to this answer you can use fsutil 8dot3name strip directory to remove the existing names, no need to rename them
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            Apr 22 '17 at 16:18










          • Why does FindFirstFile find short names?
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          Of course this varies according to what command interpreter's DIR command one uses. The DIR command in Take Command, for example, only matches long names by default and so doesn't exhibit this behaviour. (Matching of short as well as long names can be turned on for compatibility with CMD's DIR command.) So there are ways to address this that don't require FSUTIL and administrator privileges.






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            Interesting - seems to be a bug...



            Considering, I would pipe it through find like so:



            dir /s *.asp | find /i /v ".aspx "





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            • it's not a bug, as per grawity's answer. But why do you leave a space at the end of aspx?
              – phuclv
              Mar 29 '17 at 1:49






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              @phuclv, the trailing space must be removed, because it becaome part of the search string otherwise; anyway, this approach would also exclude files that have .aspx somewhere in the middle of their names, like file.aspx.name.asp, which should actually be included...
              – aschipfl
              Nov 28 at 13:07


















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            If you have PowerShell, you can use:



            dir *.asp -r | remove-item


            If you don't have PowerShell, why not?






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              As user grawity anready said in their answer, it is because the wildcards used by cmd's internal commands and several external ones also match against 8.3 file names, which are enabled by default.



              To work around that, there are several ways, some of which I want to show you:





              You can use findstr to filter the file names returned by dir:



              dir /S /B /A:-D "*.asp" | findstr /IEC:".asp"


              This does not even match files that have .asp somewhere in their names (like file.asp.aspx), nor does it exclude files that have .aspx in their names (like file.aspx.asp).



              The switch /B lets dir return a pure list of file names/paths, which can be filtered properly. The option /A:-D excludes any matching directories.





              Alternatively, the where command could be used, which handles wildcards differently than dir:



              where /R "." "*.asp"


              The disadvantage is that this command also regards the content of the PATHEXT variable, so this would also match a file that end in .asp.exe, given that .EXE is contained in PATHEXT; to avoid that, you could temporarily clear the PATHEXT variable (by set "PATHEXT_BACKUP=%PATHEXT%" & set "PATHEXT=") and restore it later (by set "PATHEXT=%PATHEXT_BACKUP%" & set "PATHEXT_BACKUP=").





              This answer by user Konrad shows a way to change the default behaviour of creating 8.3 file names of items with an extension with more than 3 characters, which in turn prevents most of such unintended matches. But unfortunately this does not change any current 8.3 file names. And of course there could theoretically be situations where the 8.3 file names are still matching although quite unlikely.



              I have to admit that I did not yet test this...






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                dir /x


                For compatibility reasons, Windows generates a 8.3 name for every long file name created, and wildcard matching code (FindFirstFile()) checks both the original and shortened names. Use dir /x to see what short names are assigned to each file.



                The "extension" part of a 8.3 name is always created by simply truncating the last extension to at most 3 characters: .aspx to .ASP





                When using the NTFS filesystem, 8.3 name creation can be disabled system-wide using:



                fsutil behavior set disable8dot3


                However, this won't affect existing names. You will have to rename each file and then rename it back to its original name.





                See also: Directory search in Windows Command Prompt shows incorrect output!






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                • Well, that's a pretty good explanation of why - but it seems like there isn't a way to then force the dir command to ignore the aspx files?
                  – chris
                  Jan 28 '11 at 14:17






                • 1




                  @chris: No. But you can either remove the 8.3 names from your system (will likely save you a lot of trouble later), or filter the dir output with dir /b/s *.asp | findstr /ile .asp -- this discards lines that do not end with .asp.
                  – grawity
                  Jan 28 '11 at 14:19












                • according to this answer you can use fsutil 8dot3name strip directory to remove the existing names, no need to rename them
                  – phuclv
                  Apr 22 '17 at 16:18










                • Why does FindFirstFile find short names?
                  – phuclv
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                dir /x


                For compatibility reasons, Windows generates a 8.3 name for every long file name created, and wildcard matching code (FindFirstFile()) checks both the original and shortened names. Use dir /x to see what short names are assigned to each file.



                The "extension" part of a 8.3 name is always created by simply truncating the last extension to at most 3 characters: .aspx to .ASP





                When using the NTFS filesystem, 8.3 name creation can be disabled system-wide using:



                fsutil behavior set disable8dot3


                However, this won't affect existing names. You will have to rename each file and then rename it back to its original name.





                See also: Directory search in Windows Command Prompt shows incorrect output!






                share|improve this answer























                • Well, that's a pretty good explanation of why - but it seems like there isn't a way to then force the dir command to ignore the aspx files?
                  – chris
                  Jan 28 '11 at 14:17






                • 1




                  @chris: No. But you can either remove the 8.3 names from your system (will likely save you a lot of trouble later), or filter the dir output with dir /b/s *.asp | findstr /ile .asp -- this discards lines that do not end with .asp.
                  – grawity
                  Jan 28 '11 at 14:19












                • according to this answer you can use fsutil 8dot3name strip directory to remove the existing names, no need to rename them
                  – phuclv
                  Apr 22 '17 at 16:18










                • Why does FindFirstFile find short names?
                  – phuclv
                  Jun 12 '17 at 2:34













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                dir /x


                For compatibility reasons, Windows generates a 8.3 name for every long file name created, and wildcard matching code (FindFirstFile()) checks both the original and shortened names. Use dir /x to see what short names are assigned to each file.



                The "extension" part of a 8.3 name is always created by simply truncating the last extension to at most 3 characters: .aspx to .ASP





                When using the NTFS filesystem, 8.3 name creation can be disabled system-wide using:



                fsutil behavior set disable8dot3


                However, this won't affect existing names. You will have to rename each file and then rename it back to its original name.





                See also: Directory search in Windows Command Prompt shows incorrect output!






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                dir /x


                For compatibility reasons, Windows generates a 8.3 name for every long file name created, and wildcard matching code (FindFirstFile()) checks both the original and shortened names. Use dir /x to see what short names are assigned to each file.



                The "extension" part of a 8.3 name is always created by simply truncating the last extension to at most 3 characters: .aspx to .ASP





                When using the NTFS filesystem, 8.3 name creation can be disabled system-wide using:



                fsutil behavior set disable8dot3


                However, this won't affect existing names. You will have to rename each file and then rename it back to its original name.





                See also: Directory search in Windows Command Prompt shows incorrect output!







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                • Well, that's a pretty good explanation of why - but it seems like there isn't a way to then force the dir command to ignore the aspx files?
                  – chris
                  Jan 28 '11 at 14:17






                • 1




                  @chris: No. But you can either remove the 8.3 names from your system (will likely save you a lot of trouble later), or filter the dir output with dir /b/s *.asp | findstr /ile .asp -- this discards lines that do not end with .asp.
                  – grawity
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                • according to this answer you can use fsutil 8dot3name strip directory to remove the existing names, no need to rename them
                  – phuclv
                  Apr 22 '17 at 16:18










                • Why does FindFirstFile find short names?
                  – phuclv
                  Jun 12 '17 at 2:34


















                • Well, that's a pretty good explanation of why - but it seems like there isn't a way to then force the dir command to ignore the aspx files?
                  – chris
                  Jan 28 '11 at 14:17






                • 1




                  @chris: No. But you can either remove the 8.3 names from your system (will likely save you a lot of trouble later), or filter the dir output with dir /b/s *.asp | findstr /ile .asp -- this discards lines that do not end with .asp.
                  – grawity
                  Jan 28 '11 at 14:19












                • according to this answer you can use fsutil 8dot3name strip directory to remove the existing names, no need to rename them
                  – phuclv
                  Apr 22 '17 at 16:18










                • Why does FindFirstFile find short names?
                  – phuclv
                  Jun 12 '17 at 2:34
















                Well, that's a pretty good explanation of why - but it seems like there isn't a way to then force the dir command to ignore the aspx files?
                – chris
                Jan 28 '11 at 14:17




                Well, that's a pretty good explanation of why - but it seems like there isn't a way to then force the dir command to ignore the aspx files?
                – chris
                Jan 28 '11 at 14:17




                1




                1




                @chris: No. But you can either remove the 8.3 names from your system (will likely save you a lot of trouble later), or filter the dir output with dir /b/s *.asp | findstr /ile .asp -- this discards lines that do not end with .asp.
                – grawity
                Jan 28 '11 at 14:19






                @chris: No. But you can either remove the 8.3 names from your system (will likely save you a lot of trouble later), or filter the dir output with dir /b/s *.asp | findstr /ile .asp -- this discards lines that do not end with .asp.
                – grawity
                Jan 28 '11 at 14:19














                according to this answer you can use fsutil 8dot3name strip directory to remove the existing names, no need to rename them
                – phuclv
                Apr 22 '17 at 16:18




                according to this answer you can use fsutil 8dot3name strip directory to remove the existing names, no need to rename them
                – phuclv
                Apr 22 '17 at 16:18












                Why does FindFirstFile find short names?
                – phuclv
                Jun 12 '17 at 2:34




                Why does FindFirstFile find short names?
                – phuclv
                Jun 12 '17 at 2:34












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                Of course this varies according to what command interpreter's DIR command one uses. The DIR command in Take Command, for example, only matches long names by default and so doesn't exhibit this behaviour. (Matching of short as well as long names can be turned on for compatibility with CMD's DIR command.) So there are ways to address this that don't require FSUTIL and administrator privileges.






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                  Of course this varies according to what command interpreter's DIR command one uses. The DIR command in Take Command, for example, only matches long names by default and so doesn't exhibit this behaviour. (Matching of short as well as long names can be turned on for compatibility with CMD's DIR command.) So there are ways to address this that don't require FSUTIL and administrator privileges.






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                    Of course this varies according to what command interpreter's DIR command one uses. The DIR command in Take Command, for example, only matches long names by default and so doesn't exhibit this behaviour. (Matching of short as well as long names can be turned on for compatibility with CMD's DIR command.) So there are ways to address this that don't require FSUTIL and administrator privileges.






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                    Of course this varies according to what command interpreter's DIR command one uses. The DIR command in Take Command, for example, only matches long names by default and so doesn't exhibit this behaviour. (Matching of short as well as long names can be turned on for compatibility with CMD's DIR command.) So there are ways to address this that don't require FSUTIL and administrator privileges.







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                        Interesting - seems to be a bug...



                        Considering, I would pipe it through find like so:



                        dir /s *.asp | find /i /v ".aspx "





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                        • it's not a bug, as per grawity's answer. But why do you leave a space at the end of aspx?
                          – phuclv
                          Mar 29 '17 at 1:49






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                          @phuclv, the trailing space must be removed, because it becaome part of the search string otherwise; anyway, this approach would also exclude files that have .aspx somewhere in the middle of their names, like file.aspx.name.asp, which should actually be included...
                          – aschipfl
                          Nov 28 at 13:07















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                        Interesting - seems to be a bug...



                        Considering, I would pipe it through find like so:



                        dir /s *.asp | find /i /v ".aspx "





                        share|improve this answer























                        • it's not a bug, as per grawity's answer. But why do you leave a space at the end of aspx?
                          – phuclv
                          Mar 29 '17 at 1:49






                        • 1




                          @phuclv, the trailing space must be removed, because it becaome part of the search string otherwise; anyway, this approach would also exclude files that have .aspx somewhere in the middle of their names, like file.aspx.name.asp, which should actually be included...
                          – aschipfl
                          Nov 28 at 13:07













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                        up vote
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                        down vote









                        Interesting - seems to be a bug...



                        Considering, I would pipe it through find like so:



                        dir /s *.asp | find /i /v ".aspx "





                        share|improve this answer














                        Interesting - seems to be a bug...



                        Considering, I would pipe it through find like so:



                        dir /s *.asp | find /i /v ".aspx "






                        share|improve this answer














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                        • it's not a bug, as per grawity's answer. But why do you leave a space at the end of aspx?
                          – phuclv
                          Mar 29 '17 at 1:49






                        • 1




                          @phuclv, the trailing space must be removed, because it becaome part of the search string otherwise; anyway, this approach would also exclude files that have .aspx somewhere in the middle of their names, like file.aspx.name.asp, which should actually be included...
                          – aschipfl
                          Nov 28 at 13:07


















                        • it's not a bug, as per grawity's answer. But why do you leave a space at the end of aspx?
                          – phuclv
                          Mar 29 '17 at 1:49






                        • 1




                          @phuclv, the trailing space must be removed, because it becaome part of the search string otherwise; anyway, this approach would also exclude files that have .aspx somewhere in the middle of their names, like file.aspx.name.asp, which should actually be included...
                          – aschipfl
                          Nov 28 at 13:07
















                        it's not a bug, as per grawity's answer. But why do you leave a space at the end of aspx?
                        – phuclv
                        Mar 29 '17 at 1:49




                        it's not a bug, as per grawity's answer. But why do you leave a space at the end of aspx?
                        – phuclv
                        Mar 29 '17 at 1:49




                        1




                        1




                        @phuclv, the trailing space must be removed, because it becaome part of the search string otherwise; anyway, this approach would also exclude files that have .aspx somewhere in the middle of their names, like file.aspx.name.asp, which should actually be included...
                        – aschipfl
                        Nov 28 at 13:07




                        @phuclv, the trailing space must be removed, because it becaome part of the search string otherwise; anyway, this approach would also exclude files that have .aspx somewhere in the middle of their names, like file.aspx.name.asp, which should actually be included...
                        – aschipfl
                        Nov 28 at 13:07










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                        If you have PowerShell, you can use:



                        dir *.asp -r | remove-item


                        If you don't have PowerShell, why not?






                        share|improve this answer

























                          up vote
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                          down vote













                          If you have PowerShell, you can use:



                          dir *.asp -r | remove-item


                          If you don't have PowerShell, why not?






                          share|improve this answer























                            up vote
                            0
                            down vote










                            up vote
                            0
                            down vote









                            If you have PowerShell, you can use:



                            dir *.asp -r | remove-item


                            If you don't have PowerShell, why not?






                            share|improve this answer












                            If you have PowerShell, you can use:



                            dir *.asp -r | remove-item


                            If you don't have PowerShell, why not?







                            share|improve this answer












                            share|improve this answer



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                                As user grawity anready said in their answer, it is because the wildcards used by cmd's internal commands and several external ones also match against 8.3 file names, which are enabled by default.



                                To work around that, there are several ways, some of which I want to show you:





                                You can use findstr to filter the file names returned by dir:



                                dir /S /B /A:-D "*.asp" | findstr /IEC:".asp"


                                This does not even match files that have .asp somewhere in their names (like file.asp.aspx), nor does it exclude files that have .aspx in their names (like file.aspx.asp).



                                The switch /B lets dir return a pure list of file names/paths, which can be filtered properly. The option /A:-D excludes any matching directories.





                                Alternatively, the where command could be used, which handles wildcards differently than dir:



                                where /R "." "*.asp"


                                The disadvantage is that this command also regards the content of the PATHEXT variable, so this would also match a file that end in .asp.exe, given that .EXE is contained in PATHEXT; to avoid that, you could temporarily clear the PATHEXT variable (by set "PATHEXT_BACKUP=%PATHEXT%" & set "PATHEXT=") and restore it later (by set "PATHEXT=%PATHEXT_BACKUP%" & set "PATHEXT_BACKUP=").





                                This answer by user Konrad shows a way to change the default behaviour of creating 8.3 file names of items with an extension with more than 3 characters, which in turn prevents most of such unintended matches. But unfortunately this does not change any current 8.3 file names. And of course there could theoretically be situations where the 8.3 file names are still matching although quite unlikely.



                                I have to admit that I did not yet test this...






                                share|improve this answer

























                                  up vote
                                  0
                                  down vote















                                  As user grawity anready said in their answer, it is because the wildcards used by cmd's internal commands and several external ones also match against 8.3 file names, which are enabled by default.



                                  To work around that, there are several ways, some of which I want to show you:





                                  You can use findstr to filter the file names returned by dir:



                                  dir /S /B /A:-D "*.asp" | findstr /IEC:".asp"


                                  This does not even match files that have .asp somewhere in their names (like file.asp.aspx), nor does it exclude files that have .aspx in their names (like file.aspx.asp).



                                  The switch /B lets dir return a pure list of file names/paths, which can be filtered properly. The option /A:-D excludes any matching directories.





                                  Alternatively, the where command could be used, which handles wildcards differently than dir:



                                  where /R "." "*.asp"


                                  The disadvantage is that this command also regards the content of the PATHEXT variable, so this would also match a file that end in .asp.exe, given that .EXE is contained in PATHEXT; to avoid that, you could temporarily clear the PATHEXT variable (by set "PATHEXT_BACKUP=%PATHEXT%" & set "PATHEXT=") and restore it later (by set "PATHEXT=%PATHEXT_BACKUP%" & set "PATHEXT_BACKUP=").





                                  This answer by user Konrad shows a way to change the default behaviour of creating 8.3 file names of items with an extension with more than 3 characters, which in turn prevents most of such unintended matches. But unfortunately this does not change any current 8.3 file names. And of course there could theoretically be situations where the 8.3 file names are still matching although quite unlikely.



                                  I have to admit that I did not yet test this...






                                  share|improve this answer























                                    up vote
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                                    down vote










                                    up vote
                                    0
                                    down vote











                                    As user grawity anready said in their answer, it is because the wildcards used by cmd's internal commands and several external ones also match against 8.3 file names, which are enabled by default.



                                    To work around that, there are several ways, some of which I want to show you:





                                    You can use findstr to filter the file names returned by dir:



                                    dir /S /B /A:-D "*.asp" | findstr /IEC:".asp"


                                    This does not even match files that have .asp somewhere in their names (like file.asp.aspx), nor does it exclude files that have .aspx in their names (like file.aspx.asp).



                                    The switch /B lets dir return a pure list of file names/paths, which can be filtered properly. The option /A:-D excludes any matching directories.





                                    Alternatively, the where command could be used, which handles wildcards differently than dir:



                                    where /R "." "*.asp"


                                    The disadvantage is that this command also regards the content of the PATHEXT variable, so this would also match a file that end in .asp.exe, given that .EXE is contained in PATHEXT; to avoid that, you could temporarily clear the PATHEXT variable (by set "PATHEXT_BACKUP=%PATHEXT%" & set "PATHEXT=") and restore it later (by set "PATHEXT=%PATHEXT_BACKUP%" & set "PATHEXT_BACKUP=").





                                    This answer by user Konrad shows a way to change the default behaviour of creating 8.3 file names of items with an extension with more than 3 characters, which in turn prevents most of such unintended matches. But unfortunately this does not change any current 8.3 file names. And of course there could theoretically be situations where the 8.3 file names are still matching although quite unlikely.



                                    I have to admit that I did not yet test this...






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                                    As user grawity anready said in their answer, it is because the wildcards used by cmd's internal commands and several external ones also match against 8.3 file names, which are enabled by default.



                                    To work around that, there are several ways, some of which I want to show you:





                                    You can use findstr to filter the file names returned by dir:



                                    dir /S /B /A:-D "*.asp" | findstr /IEC:".asp"


                                    This does not even match files that have .asp somewhere in their names (like file.asp.aspx), nor does it exclude files that have .aspx in their names (like file.aspx.asp).



                                    The switch /B lets dir return a pure list of file names/paths, which can be filtered properly. The option /A:-D excludes any matching directories.





                                    Alternatively, the where command could be used, which handles wildcards differently than dir:



                                    where /R "." "*.asp"


                                    The disadvantage is that this command also regards the content of the PATHEXT variable, so this would also match a file that end in .asp.exe, given that .EXE is contained in PATHEXT; to avoid that, you could temporarily clear the PATHEXT variable (by set "PATHEXT_BACKUP=%PATHEXT%" & set "PATHEXT=") and restore it later (by set "PATHEXT=%PATHEXT_BACKUP%" & set "PATHEXT_BACKUP=").





                                    This answer by user Konrad shows a way to change the default behaviour of creating 8.3 file names of items with an extension with more than 3 characters, which in turn prevents most of such unintended matches. But unfortunately this does not change any current 8.3 file names. And of course there could theoretically be situations where the 8.3 file names are still matching although quite unlikely.



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