How can I encourage responsible business practices among necromancers?
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I am DONNA TRUMPET, the first female President of the United states reborn, and one of the greatest leaders in world history. I have managed to recently pass the 103rd amendment to our Constitution that allows private contractors, known as necromancers, the right to do business in our country.
Despite the continued complaints of the lamestream media ( violation of workers rights, dignity of the deceased, and other such nonsense whiny liberals typically bitch about), I have secured enough votes to pass legislation through. Licensed practitioners can, for a fee, bring a person back from the dead. This process involves a ritual that must be repeated at various times of the year to maintain undeath. The subject's faculties, such as memories, skills, etc. are completely restored. This process is used for various purposes, such as cheap labor, provide testimony in a murder trial, increase the number of registered voters in a county, or to simply give someone a second chance at life.
However, there have been a few hiccups along the way. Many disreputable necromancers have put the policy at risk with their business practices. Some, after taking a client's money, do a half-assed job of the ritual, bringing back a mindless zombie rather than a fully fledged being. Others sabotage their own ritual, in order to make the body decay faster than normal, requiring more frequent repeated rituals, in order to milk the client of more money. Others perform their practice perfectly, but continue to raise their fees for the repeat rituals to exploit their customers. Loved ones of the undead individual would have no choice but to continue paying higher rates, lest they lose the lately deceased to the grave once again.
How can I encourage better practices among these practitioners and allow for more accountability?
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I am DONNA TRUMPET, the first female President of the United states reborn, and one of the greatest leaders in world history. I have managed to recently pass the 103rd amendment to our Constitution that allows private contractors, known as necromancers, the right to do business in our country.
Despite the continued complaints of the lamestream media ( violation of workers rights, dignity of the deceased, and other such nonsense whiny liberals typically bitch about), I have secured enough votes to pass legislation through. Licensed practitioners can, for a fee, bring a person back from the dead. This process involves a ritual that must be repeated at various times of the year to maintain undeath. The subject's faculties, such as memories, skills, etc. are completely restored. This process is used for various purposes, such as cheap labor, provide testimony in a murder trial, increase the number of registered voters in a county, or to simply give someone a second chance at life.
However, there have been a few hiccups along the way. Many disreputable necromancers have put the policy at risk with their business practices. Some, after taking a client's money, do a half-assed job of the ritual, bringing back a mindless zombie rather than a fully fledged being. Others sabotage their own ritual, in order to make the body decay faster than normal, requiring more frequent repeated rituals, in order to milk the client of more money. Others perform their practice perfectly, but continue to raise their fees for the repeat rituals to exploit their customers. Loved ones of the undead individual would have no choice but to continue paying higher rates, lest they lose the lately deceased to the grave once again.
How can I encourage better practices among these practitioners and allow for more accountability?
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Aren't responsible business practices another rant from the lamestream media?
– L.Dutch♦
Nov 20 at 15:44
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If you want to regulate necromancers, then you probably shouldn't have enshrined a right to practice in the 103rd Amendment. Seems like that's going to be interpreted as an absolute. Instead, the amendment should specify the actual individual rights that are being proscribed (or created), and let the Congress handle the details of implementation and regulation. Note that any voting rights of the dead should be specified in the amendment.
– user535733
Nov 20 at 15:54
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-1 not enough ALL CAPS.
– Nic Hartley
Nov 20 at 18:30
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Besides @user535733's points, you're going to need a DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) equivalent, or extend it to cover necromancy. I might not want to come back! And this does strange things to the death penalty, possibly. There was one Sci-Fi short story I read (thought it was Zahn, but I can't recall), where (chemically/electronically) raised zombies were a thing, and used as movie extras/assembly line robots/pleasure bots - big companies were just buying the rights from poor families, or putting it into employment contracts...
– Clockwork-Muse
Nov 20 at 19:06
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Replace "necromancer" with "contractor" or "mechanic", and "zombie" with the appropriate noun, and you already have a good model of how things will shake out.
– Nuclear Wang
Nov 20 at 20:55
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I am DONNA TRUMPET, the first female President of the United states reborn, and one of the greatest leaders in world history. I have managed to recently pass the 103rd amendment to our Constitution that allows private contractors, known as necromancers, the right to do business in our country.
Despite the continued complaints of the lamestream media ( violation of workers rights, dignity of the deceased, and other such nonsense whiny liberals typically bitch about), I have secured enough votes to pass legislation through. Licensed practitioners can, for a fee, bring a person back from the dead. This process involves a ritual that must be repeated at various times of the year to maintain undeath. The subject's faculties, such as memories, skills, etc. are completely restored. This process is used for various purposes, such as cheap labor, provide testimony in a murder trial, increase the number of registered voters in a county, or to simply give someone a second chance at life.
However, there have been a few hiccups along the way. Many disreputable necromancers have put the policy at risk with their business practices. Some, after taking a client's money, do a half-assed job of the ritual, bringing back a mindless zombie rather than a fully fledged being. Others sabotage their own ritual, in order to make the body decay faster than normal, requiring more frequent repeated rituals, in order to milk the client of more money. Others perform their practice perfectly, but continue to raise their fees for the repeat rituals to exploit their customers. Loved ones of the undead individual would have no choice but to continue paying higher rates, lest they lose the lately deceased to the grave once again.
How can I encourage better practices among these practitioners and allow for more accountability?
reality-check economy
I am DONNA TRUMPET, the first female President of the United states reborn, and one of the greatest leaders in world history. I have managed to recently pass the 103rd amendment to our Constitution that allows private contractors, known as necromancers, the right to do business in our country.
Despite the continued complaints of the lamestream media ( violation of workers rights, dignity of the deceased, and other such nonsense whiny liberals typically bitch about), I have secured enough votes to pass legislation through. Licensed practitioners can, for a fee, bring a person back from the dead. This process involves a ritual that must be repeated at various times of the year to maintain undeath. The subject's faculties, such as memories, skills, etc. are completely restored. This process is used for various purposes, such as cheap labor, provide testimony in a murder trial, increase the number of registered voters in a county, or to simply give someone a second chance at life.
However, there have been a few hiccups along the way. Many disreputable necromancers have put the policy at risk with their business practices. Some, after taking a client's money, do a half-assed job of the ritual, bringing back a mindless zombie rather than a fully fledged being. Others sabotage their own ritual, in order to make the body decay faster than normal, requiring more frequent repeated rituals, in order to milk the client of more money. Others perform their practice perfectly, but continue to raise their fees for the repeat rituals to exploit their customers. Loved ones of the undead individual would have no choice but to continue paying higher rates, lest they lose the lately deceased to the grave once again.
How can I encourage better practices among these practitioners and allow for more accountability?
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Aren't responsible business practices another rant from the lamestream media?
– L.Dutch♦
Nov 20 at 15:44
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If you want to regulate necromancers, then you probably shouldn't have enshrined a right to practice in the 103rd Amendment. Seems like that's going to be interpreted as an absolute. Instead, the amendment should specify the actual individual rights that are being proscribed (or created), and let the Congress handle the details of implementation and regulation. Note that any voting rights of the dead should be specified in the amendment.
– user535733
Nov 20 at 15:54
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-1 not enough ALL CAPS.
– Nic Hartley
Nov 20 at 18:30
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Besides @user535733's points, you're going to need a DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) equivalent, or extend it to cover necromancy. I might not want to come back! And this does strange things to the death penalty, possibly. There was one Sci-Fi short story I read (thought it was Zahn, but I can't recall), where (chemically/electronically) raised zombies were a thing, and used as movie extras/assembly line robots/pleasure bots - big companies were just buying the rights from poor families, or putting it into employment contracts...
– Clockwork-Muse
Nov 20 at 19:06
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Replace "necromancer" with "contractor" or "mechanic", and "zombie" with the appropriate noun, and you already have a good model of how things will shake out.
– Nuclear Wang
Nov 20 at 20:55
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Aren't responsible business practices another rant from the lamestream media?
– L.Dutch♦
Nov 20 at 15:44
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If you want to regulate necromancers, then you probably shouldn't have enshrined a right to practice in the 103rd Amendment. Seems like that's going to be interpreted as an absolute. Instead, the amendment should specify the actual individual rights that are being proscribed (or created), and let the Congress handle the details of implementation and regulation. Note that any voting rights of the dead should be specified in the amendment.
– user535733
Nov 20 at 15:54
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-1 not enough ALL CAPS.
– Nic Hartley
Nov 20 at 18:30
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Besides @user535733's points, you're going to need a DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) equivalent, or extend it to cover necromancy. I might not want to come back! And this does strange things to the death penalty, possibly. There was one Sci-Fi short story I read (thought it was Zahn, but I can't recall), where (chemically/electronically) raised zombies were a thing, and used as movie extras/assembly line robots/pleasure bots - big companies were just buying the rights from poor families, or putting it into employment contracts...
– Clockwork-Muse
Nov 20 at 19:06
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Replace "necromancer" with "contractor" or "mechanic", and "zombie" with the appropriate noun, and you already have a good model of how things will shake out.
– Nuclear Wang
Nov 20 at 20:55
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Aren't responsible business practices another rant from the lamestream media?
– L.Dutch♦
Nov 20 at 15:44
Aren't responsible business practices another rant from the lamestream media?
– L.Dutch♦
Nov 20 at 15:44
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If you want to regulate necromancers, then you probably shouldn't have enshrined a right to practice in the 103rd Amendment. Seems like that's going to be interpreted as an absolute. Instead, the amendment should specify the actual individual rights that are being proscribed (or created), and let the Congress handle the details of implementation and regulation. Note that any voting rights of the dead should be specified in the amendment.
– user535733
Nov 20 at 15:54
If you want to regulate necromancers, then you probably shouldn't have enshrined a right to practice in the 103rd Amendment. Seems like that's going to be interpreted as an absolute. Instead, the amendment should specify the actual individual rights that are being proscribed (or created), and let the Congress handle the details of implementation and regulation. Note that any voting rights of the dead should be specified in the amendment.
– user535733
Nov 20 at 15:54
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-1 not enough ALL CAPS.
– Nic Hartley
Nov 20 at 18:30
-1 not enough ALL CAPS.
– Nic Hartley
Nov 20 at 18:30
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Besides @user535733's points, you're going to need a DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) equivalent, or extend it to cover necromancy. I might not want to come back! And this does strange things to the death penalty, possibly. There was one Sci-Fi short story I read (thought it was Zahn, but I can't recall), where (chemically/electronically) raised zombies were a thing, and used as movie extras/assembly line robots/pleasure bots - big companies were just buying the rights from poor families, or putting it into employment contracts...
– Clockwork-Muse
Nov 20 at 19:06
Besides @user535733's points, you're going to need a DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) equivalent, or extend it to cover necromancy. I might not want to come back! And this does strange things to the death penalty, possibly. There was one Sci-Fi short story I read (thought it was Zahn, but I can't recall), where (chemically/electronically) raised zombies were a thing, and used as movie extras/assembly line robots/pleasure bots - big companies were just buying the rights from poor families, or putting it into employment contracts...
– Clockwork-Muse
Nov 20 at 19:06
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Replace "necromancer" with "contractor" or "mechanic", and "zombie" with the appropriate noun, and you already have a good model of how things will shake out.
– Nuclear Wang
Nov 20 at 20:55
Replace "necromancer" with "contractor" or "mechanic", and "zombie" with the appropriate noun, and you already have a good model of how things will shake out.
– Nuclear Wang
Nov 20 at 20:55
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The usual way you regulate services is through regulation.
Criminal penalties for unauthorized raising of the dead, necromancy without a license, and existing related crimes like fraud, hiding a corpse, etc.
Regulatory penalties like license suspension/revocation for unfair, deceptive, and/or predatory business practices or failed inspections for adequate/safe facilities and rite materials.
There are private forms of limited regulation, too, like insurance coverage for malpractice or general liability.
People being imperfect, case law will quickly establish precedents, too.
The way you improve business behavior is usually through trade groups. Not the shady ones that merely lobby government, but the active ones that seek to educate members on best practices, provide forums for members to share problems, and promote research and improvement in the field.
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A similar vein of thought would be via software certifications. A software brand has a reputation and certifies users who have passed approved test and follow their guidelines. The software company provides support to certified users and promotes people to use certified users. This way people can prove their value and skills via the certification and gain employment using the reputation of the software company, and the software company benefits by not needing to directly hire and maintain employees. Just replace it all with Necromancers.
– Shadowzee
Nov 21 at 0:21
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Not that most software certifications mean much of anything.
– The Architect
Nov 21 at 13:33
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If necromancy can restore a person with their full memories, then it is essentially a branch of medicine, and all of its many regulations will apply (training, licensing, record keeping, malpractice, oversight, etc)
– Bald Bear
Nov 22 at 21:49
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Encourage competition, and make sure that antitrust laws are respected
Capitalism to the rescue!
It seems most problems you worry about are caused by necromancers either asking for outrageous fees, or deliberately performing subpar services to be able to demand fees more often.
However, if there is a healthy competition between them, they are forced to work for reasonable fees and provide adequate services, otherwise clients will go to competing necromancers.
This reminds me of shady car repair shops which deliberately do poor repairs so you will need them more often. If there are better and more honest repair shops in the area (and their reputation spreads), they will drive the shady ones out of business.
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This has the advantage that people who only want mindless zombies or who don't care if the corpse only lasts a few days don't find themselves forced to pay for more expensive services that provide them no additional benefit by government fiat.
– Perkins
Nov 21 at 2:24
This. Please DON'T regulate and just let the free market do its thing. Yes, you will have some mindless zombies around. Yes, someone is going to milk a client dry. But regulation is far worse. And yes, I'm not just alking about necromancers any more...
– tfrascaroli
Nov 21 at 11:36
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@tfrascaroli : you still need at least one kind of regulation: regulation against monopoly. But antitrust laws should cover that.
– vsz
Nov 21 at 11:48
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@tfrascaroli pure capitalism is just as bad as socialism. That is why we have antitrust laws. Though one thing I would adjust in the answer, while current trade law should handle most of the cases, some "consent to resurrection" regulation will need to be added. (At least for cases where this isn't already spelled out in there will)
– Tezra
Nov 21 at 16:00
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@Perkins it depends a bit if the goal is also to protect the rights of the ones being reanimated, i.e. get their full consciousness back vs. being treated as simple to manipulate zombies. In light of the question's phrasing, I'd assume president OP would be fine with an approach that doesn't protect everyone from a zombie worker existence. Or perhaps only certain groups of people^^
– Darkwing
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They're licensed practitioners, the easy way to deal with licensed practitioners who breach the terms of their license is to revoke said license.
The usual ombudsman service should suffice. There's no reason why what works for telecommunications and water supplies shouldn't work for necromancy services after all.
Perhaps they're also in need of a trade association, to assist them in showing that they're reputable practitioners and in setting reasonable prices for their services.
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Does It work for telecommunications?!?!
– T. Sar
Nov 20 at 17:22
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@T.Sar, yep, it means the service we get in the UK is just a bit crap rather than downright criminal.
– Separatrix
Nov 20 at 17:34
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TL;DR: Make doing the job right interesting for the necromancers.
Raising undead isn't simple. It harnesses some magical power from very weird places on the other side of the Existential Plane, and thus has some interesting side-effects.
One of them is resultant of the prolonged contact of the once living mind with the now undead body. This is something the universe actively fights against, trying to correct itself and pull it back in the regular state of normality. This manifestation of the "will of the universe" happens in the forms of Deathberries, small, crystalline growths that grow inside the body of intelligent, fully restored undead - and only them. More so, stress and unhappiness seem to stunt the growth of these things, so you can't exactly farm them. You have to do it right - a proper restoration, followed by a proper maturation period.
For the normal populace, those berries are worthless. For the necromancers, however, they can be used to fuel all sorts of different magic, and even be used to simplify the creation of other undead. All in all, the berries are stored potential, waiting to be harnessed.
This creates a interesting situation for the necromancers.
They have to give maintenance to their undead clients every once in a while, so they may ask to harvest the Deathberries during the restoration ritual in exchange for a hefty discount on the prices. Since the berries only grow on "healthy undead", they have a very strong incentive to keep their clients satisfied and properly treated so they keep coming for more. The better job the necromancer does, more they will reap later on when their client comes back. The more time is allowed between the rituals, the more berries the necromancer can reap at once, thus making it less efficient to harvest them often.
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Occam's Razor: Don't introduce variables that the OP hasn't indicated as the basis of your answer
– nzaman
Nov 21 at 9:46
@nzaman My answer was "Make doing the job right interesting for the necromancers.". Deathberries were just an example of how to accomplish that, not the "meat" of the answer.
– T. Sar
Nov 21 at 10:04
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To stretch the anatomical metaphor, "Make doing the job right interesting for the necromancers" was the bare-bones of your answer, your "deathberries" were the meat. Regardless, the question, from the perspective ofDONNA TRUMPET, the first female President of the United states reborn,
is clearly asking for legislative/regulatory options. Adding a new variable that acts as arbitrage doesn't answer the question.
– nzaman
Nov 21 at 10:55
@nzaman I agree that I'm adding a new variable, but I disagree that it doesn't answer the question. We have a bunch of answers around the site that solve their OP's questions by adding new, different stuff that they didn't think about initially. The OP didn't put a restriction on adding more magic to his world (he is already using necromancy, afterall), so this indeed answers the question. If you don't like it, you're free to downvote, but your "adding a new variable" argument makes nil sense on this site.
– T. Sar
Nov 21 at 11:12
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Since you're presumably a leader of the conservative party, you can encourage the Necromancer Guild to regulate itself. Allow necromancers to create state by state Revival Bar Associations, allow the public to rate the necromancers on Yelp, and even allow newly revived subjects to rate their revival experience. The guilds will eventually publish good revival guidelines and tariffs can be placed on foreign H-1B zombies in order to encourage ethical young wizards to enter the necromancy marketplace.
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If you were a reasonable person who believed in a free and open market: nothing.
So what if some cut rate necromancer is charging an arm and a leg for their services?!? Don’t pay! The worst thing that happens is you die, and then your family (or better yet, estate) can hire a better, cheaper, and/or more reputable necromancer.
Those dodgey necromancers get shitty yelp reviews and the open market quickly deals with the problem. Sure, there will be some cut rate necromancers preying on the poor with no other options, but still better than being dead, right?
And of course, being the leader of the free world, you can offer the very best of services to those who sign up to a decade or two of completely voluntary military service!
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There exists many quality laws in the european union, like how much curving is allowed to a banana to be selled there. Why not making one for the undead.
§ 08/15 The undead goods
The necromancer has to guarantee the live of his undead for 3 months. If the undead is dying earlier the customer, gets another for free or the full price back.
If the undead is damaged due to customer actions the warranty expires.
If the undead doesn't fit with the description (skills, power, knowlegde) the customer can return him for the full price.
The customer can always prolongue the contract, to the same price. No highering of the price is allowed.
4.1. If the necromancer (business) sales the first month, it has to be
especially stated, but isn't acknowledged as highering of the price.
4.2. If the necromancer is losing more than 10% of the original contract income due to changings of the value of the currency, the necromancer has the right to readjust the price. The same right has the customer too.
If the necromancer (business) cannot provide the services anymore, the customer beomes the money refunded.
Hope this helps :)
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How would #4 work with inflation?
– vsz
Nov 20 at 20:46
@vsz free market makes necromancing automaticly not too expensive, because of market rules
– Jannis
Nov 21 at 7:51
"The customer can always prolongue the contract, to the same price" - Wow, if I only had a contract signed in 1820 for $100 per month, which would be worth today $2000 per month, but I would still only be paying $100, while the service provider worked at a loss.
– vsz
Nov 21 at 7:54
@vsz you're right ... I was never good at making laws
– Jannis
Nov 21 at 8:10
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I see a lot of purely business-oriented answers but none so far that tackle the environmental concerns so here goes
All You Need Is Kill
(not really, but the hyperbolic clickbait helps grab your attention)
Dead bodies, including human ones, contribute to the natural cycle when they decompose. Thus, every zombie resurrected is a corpse snatched from and deprived the Earth. Deny the worms their food and you invite ecological collapse. Therefore we arrive at the principle we need to put into practice: for every pound of flesh in humans resurrected, an equal amount needs to be put back into the Earth
The first step is to measure and record the body weights of zombies raised. The administration and book keeping required would probably oblige the state to set up a Department of Graveland Security, or Department of Resurrection for a simpler title. Resurrection licenses and permits can also be handled by this new agency. Zombie control should be a lot easier than gun control if there isn't an influential lobby backing the necromancers.
Now for the tougher part, putting bodies into the ground. It's hard to do this domestically in a legal manner, although foreign soil is a very different matter. The best way to do so is probably through making use of the death sentence in states that retained it, and pushing for its reinstatement in states that didn't. Graveland Security will have to handle the logging of the inflow of human corpses, and ensuring the appropriate amount of them sit in the soil(no matter what their pesky families might say)
Now for the fun part, putting zombies in foreign territory. You can do so by enlisting necromancers and their zombies as private military contractors with the attendant regulations or lack thereof. Choose some failed state as your battlefield and let them loose. Encourage them to rack up as high a body count as possible through a similar incentive structure to those employed in regular armies. Here you can wring every last drop of plausible deniability as you can from them being PMCs and not formally part of the Army. Meanwhile body cameras on your zombies and follow up "accountancy" waves can help ensure you've reaped enough Third World flesh to fulfill your quota.
You can now terrorise countries for political purposes while throwing a bone to activists on both ends of the political spectrum. The horror and misery created should be perfect for Greenpeace sensationalism, while the alt-right gets to see their fantasy of Nazi zombies slaughtering the "untermensch". All worth it in the name of Mother Nature, of course
Maybe I missed it, but what are "PMCs"? Edit: Ah, "Private Military Contractors"
– Signal15
Nov 21 at 13:49
Wait a second. Most humans go into coffins or get cremated. We don't exactly "go back to the earth".
– user875234
Nov 21 at 15:27
@user875234 Battlefields with high body counts and crimes against humanity don't always allow for such luxuries. That's why I suggested to create such situations
– nullpointer
Nov 22 at 3:13
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- Control the resources used by the ritual itself.
- Register every individual that has been resurrected.
- Certification requires training.
- Resources are only acquirable by certified individuals with a strong cross-check on stock vs resurected.
- Enforce compulsory Warranties such as the resurrected must remain "alive", pass "psychological" examinations, and not have certain deterioration for at least x days - foregoing alternate reasons for failing such as a car crash.
- Criminalise certain practices such as raising mindless zombies, resurrection without a licence, carrying resurrection materials without authorisation.
- Fortify cemitaries, and morgues.
- Permit and establish support groups and unions for both the professionals, and the patients. This provides oversight, and a sense of community.
- Provide public system resurrection, with a set price. Permit private-system resurrections, they will have to be "better" to get clients.
- Require resurrections to be performed in front of other (frequently rotated) necromancers.
Just a few thoughts.
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The only answer is education. An informed public will be more resilient to scams. Additionally, you could open trade schools so that the power of necromancy is where it belongs, with the people. Raise up your people first. Then raise the dead.
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Build a W.A.L.L.
And by WALL, you mean the Wights Animated to Legal Limbo task force. We all know illegal Aliens are entering the country via necromantic resurrection. Let WALL keep them in detention centers (conveniently, large buildings called “malls” exist from the last century. Just turn the “M” upside down) around the country in a tangle of legal states (only the unskilled ones from Mars though; Saturians and Jovians are fine). This is the perfect way to make good on two campaign promises at once (to kill two liberals with one tweet, as they say).
Impose tariffs on the nether realm
You need a trade war with the underworld. Place a tariff on the flow of souls to the other side; that will keep people from dying. Your distant relative, D. J. T. Cthulhu: Supreme Leader of the Underworld, will almost certainly retaliate with a tariff of their own on necromancers wishing to export souls.
Get the house majority leaders, cronenbergs Paul Pelosi and Nancy Ryan, on TV saying how good this will be for the economy.
Taking these steps will surely undermine the resurrection market, simultaneously ignoring the issue and making you look proactive.
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Depends whether or not you want to be re-elected as president
The first solution that came to mind (not sure what that says about me) is to gather up a group of necromancers. Before they enter dress each one into exactly identical clothing and cover up every feature that tells them apart. Kill off about half of the necromancers and let the other halve resurrect them. Since they get resurrected with all their previous skills they should still be able to resurrect others. Kill off the other halve and repeat the process. The newly resurrected necromancers should have no other choice than to do exactly as their fine leader tells them.
Why? If they've resurrected each without the magical input of the leader they needn't be loyal to them in any way.
– Ash
Nov 20 at 15:59
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If the legal system and economy is controlled by the far Right, then the Free Market will regulate the necromancers.
No one will pay for a half-assed job or one that doesn't last long enough, once they discover that the company they were thinking of using will not do what they advertise. I mean, wouldn't you check the company's Yelp rating before you get started? Every review comes from an honest customer (right?).
If you're unlucky (stupid) enough to be one of the first customers of a new company that doesn't do what they promised, you can always sue them. Since the legal system is also regulated by the Free Market, you will get the very best attorney you can afford. And so will the mega-corporation you're suing. All the judges will be the very best money can...I mean the best at legal stuff.
There will be no bias in the system because the Free Market fixes all ills. If you're dumb enough to pick a bad company, that's on you. Pick a better one next time a loved one dies.
This is the best answer and will fix everything. Or did you want an answer with suggestions that will actually work?
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If Brazil is an example for anything, people will pay for a half-assed job that doesn't last long enough if they are even marginally cheaper. Or offer cookies. Or is somehow linked to their church. Or because it says "gluten-free necromancy" on their front window. Free Market works if you have a non-stupid populace, which is unfortunately not the case most of the time.
– T. Sar
Nov 20 at 18:32
..And I may have missed a bit of sarcasm there, I think. Hm.
– T. Sar
Nov 20 at 18:34
A bit of sarcasm? No way. I was going for full-frontal sarcasm.
– Cyn
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Ban Death
Take a wide scope approach and turn the raising of the dead into a commodity that is no longer competed for. Simply mandate that anyone who dies must be raised again immediately. The government can train huge numbers of people as necromancers and make it a public utility supported by tax dollars. All the perverse incentives of the free market are thus eliminated.
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There’s bait in these waters. Looks like what you have here is a “Campbell’s law” Where the testing given to indicate the aptitude of these necromamcers has become corrupt. Perhaps the whole system needs to be reordered so that not just anyone with a grade point average can become a necromamcer. The process for becoming a necromancer should also require some ability to think for oneself and not just memorize or charm their way through the levels, otherwise your gonna end up with a cobra effect. Yay! Games on.
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I have two seperate ideas for policing necromancers.
Rather than hunting for bad actors it might he easier to rely on necromancer whistleblowers who would be reimbursed with a share of your hoard.
Enforcing rules could be very easy if necromancers are inclined to go full lich and keep their souls in phylactery. This could be stored by the government and destroyed allowing remote execution. Having your soul safe guarded by awesome federal might could be enough of an incentive to ensure your necromancers submit to oversight.
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Full transparency via Undeath Certificates and Lifeports
The reputation of the Necromancer(s) will follow them everywhere in everything they do in respect to Necromancy. Think of it like vendor reputation at companies such as eBay or Amazon. Everything is tracked and rated, and available immediately for review.
With all Undead needing to be registered, their Necromancer(s) will be listed on their Undeath Certificate and Lifeport.
All procedures required for Undead upkeep are recorded within Lifeports.
All Lifeports list their respective Necromancer(s).
All Undeath Certificates and Lifeports have digital references to the most up-to-date information for the Undead entity and their Necromancer(s).
If it's not quite obvious, underground/grey-market Necromancers will have little to no footprint in the world of regulated Necromancy, making any business with them inherently risky. The more prolific and highly rated the Necromancer, the more likely they are to get repeat business and new customers.
Black-market Necromancers will remain a problem, but they would be considered the inevitable outlier to this system. Compulsory changes that would affect them would require manipulating the fabric of reality between the realms of existence, and that requires a 2/3rds majority vote from the Gods; they haven't agreed on anything in that capacity since entropy was introduced to curb the blight of the mortals.
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The usual way you regulate services is through regulation.
Criminal penalties for unauthorized raising of the dead, necromancy without a license, and existing related crimes like fraud, hiding a corpse, etc.
Regulatory penalties like license suspension/revocation for unfair, deceptive, and/or predatory business practices or failed inspections for adequate/safe facilities and rite materials.
There are private forms of limited regulation, too, like insurance coverage for malpractice or general liability.
People being imperfect, case law will quickly establish precedents, too.
The way you improve business behavior is usually through trade groups. Not the shady ones that merely lobby government, but the active ones that seek to educate members on best practices, provide forums for members to share problems, and promote research and improvement in the field.
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A similar vein of thought would be via software certifications. A software brand has a reputation and certifies users who have passed approved test and follow their guidelines. The software company provides support to certified users and promotes people to use certified users. This way people can prove their value and skills via the certification and gain employment using the reputation of the software company, and the software company benefits by not needing to directly hire and maintain employees. Just replace it all with Necromancers.
– Shadowzee
Nov 21 at 0:21
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Not that most software certifications mean much of anything.
– The Architect
Nov 21 at 13:33
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If necromancy can restore a person with their full memories, then it is essentially a branch of medicine, and all of its many regulations will apply (training, licensing, record keeping, malpractice, oversight, etc)
– Bald Bear
Nov 22 at 21:49
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The usual way you regulate services is through regulation.
Criminal penalties for unauthorized raising of the dead, necromancy without a license, and existing related crimes like fraud, hiding a corpse, etc.
Regulatory penalties like license suspension/revocation for unfair, deceptive, and/or predatory business practices or failed inspections for adequate/safe facilities and rite materials.
There are private forms of limited regulation, too, like insurance coverage for malpractice or general liability.
People being imperfect, case law will quickly establish precedents, too.
The way you improve business behavior is usually through trade groups. Not the shady ones that merely lobby government, but the active ones that seek to educate members on best practices, provide forums for members to share problems, and promote research and improvement in the field.
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A similar vein of thought would be via software certifications. A software brand has a reputation and certifies users who have passed approved test and follow their guidelines. The software company provides support to certified users and promotes people to use certified users. This way people can prove their value and skills via the certification and gain employment using the reputation of the software company, and the software company benefits by not needing to directly hire and maintain employees. Just replace it all with Necromancers.
– Shadowzee
Nov 21 at 0:21
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Not that most software certifications mean much of anything.
– The Architect
Nov 21 at 13:33
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If necromancy can restore a person with their full memories, then it is essentially a branch of medicine, and all of its many regulations will apply (training, licensing, record keeping, malpractice, oversight, etc)
– Bald Bear
Nov 22 at 21:49
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The usual way you regulate services is through regulation.
Criminal penalties for unauthorized raising of the dead, necromancy without a license, and existing related crimes like fraud, hiding a corpse, etc.
Regulatory penalties like license suspension/revocation for unfair, deceptive, and/or predatory business practices or failed inspections for adequate/safe facilities and rite materials.
There are private forms of limited regulation, too, like insurance coverage for malpractice or general liability.
People being imperfect, case law will quickly establish precedents, too.
The way you improve business behavior is usually through trade groups. Not the shady ones that merely lobby government, but the active ones that seek to educate members on best practices, provide forums for members to share problems, and promote research and improvement in the field.
The usual way you regulate services is through regulation.
Criminal penalties for unauthorized raising of the dead, necromancy without a license, and existing related crimes like fraud, hiding a corpse, etc.
Regulatory penalties like license suspension/revocation for unfair, deceptive, and/or predatory business practices or failed inspections for adequate/safe facilities and rite materials.
There are private forms of limited regulation, too, like insurance coverage for malpractice or general liability.
People being imperfect, case law will quickly establish precedents, too.
The way you improve business behavior is usually through trade groups. Not the shady ones that merely lobby government, but the active ones that seek to educate members on best practices, provide forums for members to share problems, and promote research and improvement in the field.
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A similar vein of thought would be via software certifications. A software brand has a reputation and certifies users who have passed approved test and follow their guidelines. The software company provides support to certified users and promotes people to use certified users. This way people can prove their value and skills via the certification and gain employment using the reputation of the software company, and the software company benefits by not needing to directly hire and maintain employees. Just replace it all with Necromancers.
– Shadowzee
Nov 21 at 0:21
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Not that most software certifications mean much of anything.
– The Architect
Nov 21 at 13:33
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If necromancy can restore a person with their full memories, then it is essentially a branch of medicine, and all of its many regulations will apply (training, licensing, record keeping, malpractice, oversight, etc)
– Bald Bear
Nov 22 at 21:49
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A similar vein of thought would be via software certifications. A software brand has a reputation and certifies users who have passed approved test and follow their guidelines. The software company provides support to certified users and promotes people to use certified users. This way people can prove their value and skills via the certification and gain employment using the reputation of the software company, and the software company benefits by not needing to directly hire and maintain employees. Just replace it all with Necromancers.
– Shadowzee
Nov 21 at 0:21
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Not that most software certifications mean much of anything.
– The Architect
Nov 21 at 13:33
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If necromancy can restore a person with their full memories, then it is essentially a branch of medicine, and all of its many regulations will apply (training, licensing, record keeping, malpractice, oversight, etc)
– Bald Bear
Nov 22 at 21:49
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A similar vein of thought would be via software certifications. A software brand has a reputation and certifies users who have passed approved test and follow their guidelines. The software company provides support to certified users and promotes people to use certified users. This way people can prove their value and skills via the certification and gain employment using the reputation of the software company, and the software company benefits by not needing to directly hire and maintain employees. Just replace it all with Necromancers.
– Shadowzee
Nov 21 at 0:21
A similar vein of thought would be via software certifications. A software brand has a reputation and certifies users who have passed approved test and follow their guidelines. The software company provides support to certified users and promotes people to use certified users. This way people can prove their value and skills via the certification and gain employment using the reputation of the software company, and the software company benefits by not needing to directly hire and maintain employees. Just replace it all with Necromancers.
– Shadowzee
Nov 21 at 0:21
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Not that most software certifications mean much of anything.
– The Architect
Nov 21 at 13:33
Not that most software certifications mean much of anything.
– The Architect
Nov 21 at 13:33
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If necromancy can restore a person with their full memories, then it is essentially a branch of medicine, and all of its many regulations will apply (training, licensing, record keeping, malpractice, oversight, etc)
– Bald Bear
Nov 22 at 21:49
If necromancy can restore a person with their full memories, then it is essentially a branch of medicine, and all of its many regulations will apply (training, licensing, record keeping, malpractice, oversight, etc)
– Bald Bear
Nov 22 at 21:49
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Encourage competition, and make sure that antitrust laws are respected
Capitalism to the rescue!
It seems most problems you worry about are caused by necromancers either asking for outrageous fees, or deliberately performing subpar services to be able to demand fees more often.
However, if there is a healthy competition between them, they are forced to work for reasonable fees and provide adequate services, otherwise clients will go to competing necromancers.
This reminds me of shady car repair shops which deliberately do poor repairs so you will need them more often. If there are better and more honest repair shops in the area (and their reputation spreads), they will drive the shady ones out of business.
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This has the advantage that people who only want mindless zombies or who don't care if the corpse only lasts a few days don't find themselves forced to pay for more expensive services that provide them no additional benefit by government fiat.
– Perkins
Nov 21 at 2:24
This. Please DON'T regulate and just let the free market do its thing. Yes, you will have some mindless zombies around. Yes, someone is going to milk a client dry. But regulation is far worse. And yes, I'm not just alking about necromancers any more...
– tfrascaroli
Nov 21 at 11:36
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@tfrascaroli : you still need at least one kind of regulation: regulation against monopoly. But antitrust laws should cover that.
– vsz
Nov 21 at 11:48
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@tfrascaroli pure capitalism is just as bad as socialism. That is why we have antitrust laws. Though one thing I would adjust in the answer, while current trade law should handle most of the cases, some "consent to resurrection" regulation will need to be added. (At least for cases where this isn't already spelled out in there will)
– Tezra
Nov 21 at 16:00
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@Perkins it depends a bit if the goal is also to protect the rights of the ones being reanimated, i.e. get their full consciousness back vs. being treated as simple to manipulate zombies. In light of the question's phrasing, I'd assume president OP would be fine with an approach that doesn't protect everyone from a zombie worker existence. Or perhaps only certain groups of people^^
– Darkwing
Nov 21 at 17:39
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Encourage competition, and make sure that antitrust laws are respected
Capitalism to the rescue!
It seems most problems you worry about are caused by necromancers either asking for outrageous fees, or deliberately performing subpar services to be able to demand fees more often.
However, if there is a healthy competition between them, they are forced to work for reasonable fees and provide adequate services, otherwise clients will go to competing necromancers.
This reminds me of shady car repair shops which deliberately do poor repairs so you will need them more often. If there are better and more honest repair shops in the area (and their reputation spreads), they will drive the shady ones out of business.
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This has the advantage that people who only want mindless zombies or who don't care if the corpse only lasts a few days don't find themselves forced to pay for more expensive services that provide them no additional benefit by government fiat.
– Perkins
Nov 21 at 2:24
This. Please DON'T regulate and just let the free market do its thing. Yes, you will have some mindless zombies around. Yes, someone is going to milk a client dry. But regulation is far worse. And yes, I'm not just alking about necromancers any more...
– tfrascaroli
Nov 21 at 11:36
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@tfrascaroli : you still need at least one kind of regulation: regulation against monopoly. But antitrust laws should cover that.
– vsz
Nov 21 at 11:48
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@tfrascaroli pure capitalism is just as bad as socialism. That is why we have antitrust laws. Though one thing I would adjust in the answer, while current trade law should handle most of the cases, some "consent to resurrection" regulation will need to be added. (At least for cases where this isn't already spelled out in there will)
– Tezra
Nov 21 at 16:00
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@Perkins it depends a bit if the goal is also to protect the rights of the ones being reanimated, i.e. get their full consciousness back vs. being treated as simple to manipulate zombies. In light of the question's phrasing, I'd assume president OP would be fine with an approach that doesn't protect everyone from a zombie worker existence. Or perhaps only certain groups of people^^
– Darkwing
Nov 21 at 17:39
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Encourage competition, and make sure that antitrust laws are respected
Capitalism to the rescue!
It seems most problems you worry about are caused by necromancers either asking for outrageous fees, or deliberately performing subpar services to be able to demand fees more often.
However, if there is a healthy competition between them, they are forced to work for reasonable fees and provide adequate services, otherwise clients will go to competing necromancers.
This reminds me of shady car repair shops which deliberately do poor repairs so you will need them more often. If there are better and more honest repair shops in the area (and their reputation spreads), they will drive the shady ones out of business.
Encourage competition, and make sure that antitrust laws are respected
Capitalism to the rescue!
It seems most problems you worry about are caused by necromancers either asking for outrageous fees, or deliberately performing subpar services to be able to demand fees more often.
However, if there is a healthy competition between them, they are forced to work for reasonable fees and provide adequate services, otherwise clients will go to competing necromancers.
This reminds me of shady car repair shops which deliberately do poor repairs so you will need them more often. If there are better and more honest repair shops in the area (and their reputation spreads), they will drive the shady ones out of business.
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This has the advantage that people who only want mindless zombies or who don't care if the corpse only lasts a few days don't find themselves forced to pay for more expensive services that provide them no additional benefit by government fiat.
– Perkins
Nov 21 at 2:24
This. Please DON'T regulate and just let the free market do its thing. Yes, you will have some mindless zombies around. Yes, someone is going to milk a client dry. But regulation is far worse. And yes, I'm not just alking about necromancers any more...
– tfrascaroli
Nov 21 at 11:36
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@tfrascaroli : you still need at least one kind of regulation: regulation against monopoly. But antitrust laws should cover that.
– vsz
Nov 21 at 11:48
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@tfrascaroli pure capitalism is just as bad as socialism. That is why we have antitrust laws. Though one thing I would adjust in the answer, while current trade law should handle most of the cases, some "consent to resurrection" regulation will need to be added. (At least for cases where this isn't already spelled out in there will)
– Tezra
Nov 21 at 16:00
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@Perkins it depends a bit if the goal is also to protect the rights of the ones being reanimated, i.e. get their full consciousness back vs. being treated as simple to manipulate zombies. In light of the question's phrasing, I'd assume president OP would be fine with an approach that doesn't protect everyone from a zombie worker existence. Or perhaps only certain groups of people^^
– Darkwing
Nov 21 at 17:39
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This has the advantage that people who only want mindless zombies or who don't care if the corpse only lasts a few days don't find themselves forced to pay for more expensive services that provide them no additional benefit by government fiat.
– Perkins
Nov 21 at 2:24
This. Please DON'T regulate and just let the free market do its thing. Yes, you will have some mindless zombies around. Yes, someone is going to milk a client dry. But regulation is far worse. And yes, I'm not just alking about necromancers any more...
– tfrascaroli
Nov 21 at 11:36
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@tfrascaroli : you still need at least one kind of regulation: regulation against monopoly. But antitrust laws should cover that.
– vsz
Nov 21 at 11:48
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@tfrascaroli pure capitalism is just as bad as socialism. That is why we have antitrust laws. Though one thing I would adjust in the answer, while current trade law should handle most of the cases, some "consent to resurrection" regulation will need to be added. (At least for cases where this isn't already spelled out in there will)
– Tezra
Nov 21 at 16:00
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@Perkins it depends a bit if the goal is also to protect the rights of the ones being reanimated, i.e. get their full consciousness back vs. being treated as simple to manipulate zombies. In light of the question's phrasing, I'd assume president OP would be fine with an approach that doesn't protect everyone from a zombie worker existence. Or perhaps only certain groups of people^^
– Darkwing
Nov 21 at 17:39
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This has the advantage that people who only want mindless zombies or who don't care if the corpse only lasts a few days don't find themselves forced to pay for more expensive services that provide them no additional benefit by government fiat.
– Perkins
Nov 21 at 2:24
This has the advantage that people who only want mindless zombies or who don't care if the corpse only lasts a few days don't find themselves forced to pay for more expensive services that provide them no additional benefit by government fiat.
– Perkins
Nov 21 at 2:24
This. Please DON'T regulate and just let the free market do its thing. Yes, you will have some mindless zombies around. Yes, someone is going to milk a client dry. But regulation is far worse. And yes, I'm not just alking about necromancers any more...
– tfrascaroli
Nov 21 at 11:36
This. Please DON'T regulate and just let the free market do its thing. Yes, you will have some mindless zombies around. Yes, someone is going to milk a client dry. But regulation is far worse. And yes, I'm not just alking about necromancers any more...
– tfrascaroli
Nov 21 at 11:36
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@tfrascaroli : you still need at least one kind of regulation: regulation against monopoly. But antitrust laws should cover that.
– vsz
Nov 21 at 11:48
@tfrascaroli : you still need at least one kind of regulation: regulation against monopoly. But antitrust laws should cover that.
– vsz
Nov 21 at 11:48
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@tfrascaroli pure capitalism is just as bad as socialism. That is why we have antitrust laws. Though one thing I would adjust in the answer, while current trade law should handle most of the cases, some "consent to resurrection" regulation will need to be added. (At least for cases where this isn't already spelled out in there will)
– Tezra
Nov 21 at 16:00
@tfrascaroli pure capitalism is just as bad as socialism. That is why we have antitrust laws. Though one thing I would adjust in the answer, while current trade law should handle most of the cases, some "consent to resurrection" regulation will need to be added. (At least for cases where this isn't already spelled out in there will)
– Tezra
Nov 21 at 16:00
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@Perkins it depends a bit if the goal is also to protect the rights of the ones being reanimated, i.e. get their full consciousness back vs. being treated as simple to manipulate zombies. In light of the question's phrasing, I'd assume president OP would be fine with an approach that doesn't protect everyone from a zombie worker existence. Or perhaps only certain groups of people^^
– Darkwing
Nov 21 at 17:39
@Perkins it depends a bit if the goal is also to protect the rights of the ones being reanimated, i.e. get their full consciousness back vs. being treated as simple to manipulate zombies. In light of the question's phrasing, I'd assume president OP would be fine with an approach that doesn't protect everyone from a zombie worker existence. Or perhaps only certain groups of people^^
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They're licensed practitioners, the easy way to deal with licensed practitioners who breach the terms of their license is to revoke said license.
The usual ombudsman service should suffice. There's no reason why what works for telecommunications and water supplies shouldn't work for necromancy services after all.
Perhaps they're also in need of a trade association, to assist them in showing that they're reputable practitioners and in setting reasonable prices for their services.
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Does It work for telecommunications?!?!
– T. Sar
Nov 20 at 17:22
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@T.Sar, yep, it means the service we get in the UK is just a bit crap rather than downright criminal.
– Separatrix
Nov 20 at 17:34
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They're licensed practitioners, the easy way to deal with licensed practitioners who breach the terms of their license is to revoke said license.
The usual ombudsman service should suffice. There's no reason why what works for telecommunications and water supplies shouldn't work for necromancy services after all.
Perhaps they're also in need of a trade association, to assist them in showing that they're reputable practitioners and in setting reasonable prices for their services.
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Does It work for telecommunications?!?!
– T. Sar
Nov 20 at 17:22
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@T.Sar, yep, it means the service we get in the UK is just a bit crap rather than downright criminal.
– Separatrix
Nov 20 at 17:34
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They're licensed practitioners, the easy way to deal with licensed practitioners who breach the terms of their license is to revoke said license.
The usual ombudsman service should suffice. There's no reason why what works for telecommunications and water supplies shouldn't work for necromancy services after all.
Perhaps they're also in need of a trade association, to assist them in showing that they're reputable practitioners and in setting reasonable prices for their services.
They're licensed practitioners, the easy way to deal with licensed practitioners who breach the terms of their license is to revoke said license.
The usual ombudsman service should suffice. There's no reason why what works for telecommunications and water supplies shouldn't work for necromancy services after all.
Perhaps they're also in need of a trade association, to assist them in showing that they're reputable practitioners and in setting reasonable prices for their services.
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Does It work for telecommunications?!?!
– T. Sar
Nov 20 at 17:22
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@T.Sar, yep, it means the service we get in the UK is just a bit crap rather than downright criminal.
– Separatrix
Nov 20 at 17:34
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Does It work for telecommunications?!?!
– T. Sar
Nov 20 at 17:22
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@T.Sar, yep, it means the service we get in the UK is just a bit crap rather than downright criminal.
– Separatrix
Nov 20 at 17:34
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Does It work for telecommunications?!?!
– T. Sar
Nov 20 at 17:22
Does It work for telecommunications?!?!
– T. Sar
Nov 20 at 17:22
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@T.Sar, yep, it means the service we get in the UK is just a bit crap rather than downright criminal.
– Separatrix
Nov 20 at 17:34
@T.Sar, yep, it means the service we get in the UK is just a bit crap rather than downright criminal.
– Separatrix
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TL;DR: Make doing the job right interesting for the necromancers.
Raising undead isn't simple. It harnesses some magical power from very weird places on the other side of the Existential Plane, and thus has some interesting side-effects.
One of them is resultant of the prolonged contact of the once living mind with the now undead body. This is something the universe actively fights against, trying to correct itself and pull it back in the regular state of normality. This manifestation of the "will of the universe" happens in the forms of Deathberries, small, crystalline growths that grow inside the body of intelligent, fully restored undead - and only them. More so, stress and unhappiness seem to stunt the growth of these things, so you can't exactly farm them. You have to do it right - a proper restoration, followed by a proper maturation period.
For the normal populace, those berries are worthless. For the necromancers, however, they can be used to fuel all sorts of different magic, and even be used to simplify the creation of other undead. All in all, the berries are stored potential, waiting to be harnessed.
This creates a interesting situation for the necromancers.
They have to give maintenance to their undead clients every once in a while, so they may ask to harvest the Deathberries during the restoration ritual in exchange for a hefty discount on the prices. Since the berries only grow on "healthy undead", they have a very strong incentive to keep their clients satisfied and properly treated so they keep coming for more. The better job the necromancer does, more they will reap later on when their client comes back. The more time is allowed between the rituals, the more berries the necromancer can reap at once, thus making it less efficient to harvest them often.
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Occam's Razor: Don't introduce variables that the OP hasn't indicated as the basis of your answer
– nzaman
Nov 21 at 9:46
@nzaman My answer was "Make doing the job right interesting for the necromancers.". Deathberries were just an example of how to accomplish that, not the "meat" of the answer.
– T. Sar
Nov 21 at 10:04
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To stretch the anatomical metaphor, "Make doing the job right interesting for the necromancers" was the bare-bones of your answer, your "deathberries" were the meat. Regardless, the question, from the perspective ofDONNA TRUMPET, the first female President of the United states reborn,
is clearly asking for legislative/regulatory options. Adding a new variable that acts as arbitrage doesn't answer the question.
– nzaman
Nov 21 at 10:55
@nzaman I agree that I'm adding a new variable, but I disagree that it doesn't answer the question. We have a bunch of answers around the site that solve their OP's questions by adding new, different stuff that they didn't think about initially. The OP didn't put a restriction on adding more magic to his world (he is already using necromancy, afterall), so this indeed answers the question. If you don't like it, you're free to downvote, but your "adding a new variable" argument makes nil sense on this site.
– T. Sar
Nov 21 at 11:12
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TL;DR: Make doing the job right interesting for the necromancers.
Raising undead isn't simple. It harnesses some magical power from very weird places on the other side of the Existential Plane, and thus has some interesting side-effects.
One of them is resultant of the prolonged contact of the once living mind with the now undead body. This is something the universe actively fights against, trying to correct itself and pull it back in the regular state of normality. This manifestation of the "will of the universe" happens in the forms of Deathberries, small, crystalline growths that grow inside the body of intelligent, fully restored undead - and only them. More so, stress and unhappiness seem to stunt the growth of these things, so you can't exactly farm them. You have to do it right - a proper restoration, followed by a proper maturation period.
For the normal populace, those berries are worthless. For the necromancers, however, they can be used to fuel all sorts of different magic, and even be used to simplify the creation of other undead. All in all, the berries are stored potential, waiting to be harnessed.
This creates a interesting situation for the necromancers.
They have to give maintenance to their undead clients every once in a while, so they may ask to harvest the Deathberries during the restoration ritual in exchange for a hefty discount on the prices. Since the berries only grow on "healthy undead", they have a very strong incentive to keep their clients satisfied and properly treated so they keep coming for more. The better job the necromancer does, more they will reap later on when their client comes back. The more time is allowed between the rituals, the more berries the necromancer can reap at once, thus making it less efficient to harvest them often.
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Occam's Razor: Don't introduce variables that the OP hasn't indicated as the basis of your answer
– nzaman
Nov 21 at 9:46
@nzaman My answer was "Make doing the job right interesting for the necromancers.". Deathberries were just an example of how to accomplish that, not the "meat" of the answer.
– T. Sar
Nov 21 at 10:04
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To stretch the anatomical metaphor, "Make doing the job right interesting for the necromancers" was the bare-bones of your answer, your "deathberries" were the meat. Regardless, the question, from the perspective ofDONNA TRUMPET, the first female President of the United states reborn,
is clearly asking for legislative/regulatory options. Adding a new variable that acts as arbitrage doesn't answer the question.
– nzaman
Nov 21 at 10:55
@nzaman I agree that I'm adding a new variable, but I disagree that it doesn't answer the question. We have a bunch of answers around the site that solve their OP's questions by adding new, different stuff that they didn't think about initially. The OP didn't put a restriction on adding more magic to his world (he is already using necromancy, afterall), so this indeed answers the question. If you don't like it, you're free to downvote, but your "adding a new variable" argument makes nil sense on this site.
– T. Sar
Nov 21 at 11:12
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TL;DR: Make doing the job right interesting for the necromancers.
Raising undead isn't simple. It harnesses some magical power from very weird places on the other side of the Existential Plane, and thus has some interesting side-effects.
One of them is resultant of the prolonged contact of the once living mind with the now undead body. This is something the universe actively fights against, trying to correct itself and pull it back in the regular state of normality. This manifestation of the "will of the universe" happens in the forms of Deathberries, small, crystalline growths that grow inside the body of intelligent, fully restored undead - and only them. More so, stress and unhappiness seem to stunt the growth of these things, so you can't exactly farm them. You have to do it right - a proper restoration, followed by a proper maturation period.
For the normal populace, those berries are worthless. For the necromancers, however, they can be used to fuel all sorts of different magic, and even be used to simplify the creation of other undead. All in all, the berries are stored potential, waiting to be harnessed.
This creates a interesting situation for the necromancers.
They have to give maintenance to their undead clients every once in a while, so they may ask to harvest the Deathberries during the restoration ritual in exchange for a hefty discount on the prices. Since the berries only grow on "healthy undead", they have a very strong incentive to keep their clients satisfied and properly treated so they keep coming for more. The better job the necromancer does, more they will reap later on when their client comes back. The more time is allowed between the rituals, the more berries the necromancer can reap at once, thus making it less efficient to harvest them often.
TL;DR: Make doing the job right interesting for the necromancers.
Raising undead isn't simple. It harnesses some magical power from very weird places on the other side of the Existential Plane, and thus has some interesting side-effects.
One of them is resultant of the prolonged contact of the once living mind with the now undead body. This is something the universe actively fights against, trying to correct itself and pull it back in the regular state of normality. This manifestation of the "will of the universe" happens in the forms of Deathberries, small, crystalline growths that grow inside the body of intelligent, fully restored undead - and only them. More so, stress and unhappiness seem to stunt the growth of these things, so you can't exactly farm them. You have to do it right - a proper restoration, followed by a proper maturation period.
For the normal populace, those berries are worthless. For the necromancers, however, they can be used to fuel all sorts of different magic, and even be used to simplify the creation of other undead. All in all, the berries are stored potential, waiting to be harnessed.
This creates a interesting situation for the necromancers.
They have to give maintenance to their undead clients every once in a while, so they may ask to harvest the Deathberries during the restoration ritual in exchange for a hefty discount on the prices. Since the berries only grow on "healthy undead", they have a very strong incentive to keep their clients satisfied and properly treated so they keep coming for more. The better job the necromancer does, more they will reap later on when their client comes back. The more time is allowed between the rituals, the more berries the necromancer can reap at once, thus making it less efficient to harvest them often.
answered Nov 20 at 17:40
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Occam's Razor: Don't introduce variables that the OP hasn't indicated as the basis of your answer
– nzaman
Nov 21 at 9:46
@nzaman My answer was "Make doing the job right interesting for the necromancers.". Deathberries were just an example of how to accomplish that, not the "meat" of the answer.
– T. Sar
Nov 21 at 10:04
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To stretch the anatomical metaphor, "Make doing the job right interesting for the necromancers" was the bare-bones of your answer, your "deathberries" were the meat. Regardless, the question, from the perspective ofDONNA TRUMPET, the first female President of the United states reborn,
is clearly asking for legislative/regulatory options. Adding a new variable that acts as arbitrage doesn't answer the question.
– nzaman
Nov 21 at 10:55
@nzaman I agree that I'm adding a new variable, but I disagree that it doesn't answer the question. We have a bunch of answers around the site that solve their OP's questions by adding new, different stuff that they didn't think about initially. The OP didn't put a restriction on adding more magic to his world (he is already using necromancy, afterall), so this indeed answers the question. If you don't like it, you're free to downvote, but your "adding a new variable" argument makes nil sense on this site.
– T. Sar
Nov 21 at 11:12
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Occam's Razor: Don't introduce variables that the OP hasn't indicated as the basis of your answer
– nzaman
Nov 21 at 9:46
@nzaman My answer was "Make doing the job right interesting for the necromancers.". Deathberries were just an example of how to accomplish that, not the "meat" of the answer.
– T. Sar
Nov 21 at 10:04
1
To stretch the anatomical metaphor, "Make doing the job right interesting for the necromancers" was the bare-bones of your answer, your "deathberries" were the meat. Regardless, the question, from the perspective ofDONNA TRUMPET, the first female President of the United states reborn,
is clearly asking for legislative/regulatory options. Adding a new variable that acts as arbitrage doesn't answer the question.
– nzaman
Nov 21 at 10:55
@nzaman I agree that I'm adding a new variable, but I disagree that it doesn't answer the question. We have a bunch of answers around the site that solve their OP's questions by adding new, different stuff that they didn't think about initially. The OP didn't put a restriction on adding more magic to his world (he is already using necromancy, afterall), so this indeed answers the question. If you don't like it, you're free to downvote, but your "adding a new variable" argument makes nil sense on this site.
– T. Sar
Nov 21 at 11:12
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Occam's Razor: Don't introduce variables that the OP hasn't indicated as the basis of your answer
– nzaman
Nov 21 at 9:46
Occam's Razor: Don't introduce variables that the OP hasn't indicated as the basis of your answer
– nzaman
Nov 21 at 9:46
@nzaman My answer was "Make doing the job right interesting for the necromancers.". Deathberries were just an example of how to accomplish that, not the "meat" of the answer.
– T. Sar
Nov 21 at 10:04
@nzaman My answer was "Make doing the job right interesting for the necromancers.". Deathberries were just an example of how to accomplish that, not the "meat" of the answer.
– T. Sar
Nov 21 at 10:04
1
1
To stretch the anatomical metaphor, "Make doing the job right interesting for the necromancers" was the bare-bones of your answer, your "deathberries" were the meat. Regardless, the question, from the perspective of
DONNA TRUMPET, the first female President of the United states reborn,
is clearly asking for legislative/regulatory options. Adding a new variable that acts as arbitrage doesn't answer the question.– nzaman
Nov 21 at 10:55
To stretch the anatomical metaphor, "Make doing the job right interesting for the necromancers" was the bare-bones of your answer, your "deathberries" were the meat. Regardless, the question, from the perspective of
DONNA TRUMPET, the first female President of the United states reborn,
is clearly asking for legislative/regulatory options. Adding a new variable that acts as arbitrage doesn't answer the question.– nzaman
Nov 21 at 10:55
@nzaman I agree that I'm adding a new variable, but I disagree that it doesn't answer the question. We have a bunch of answers around the site that solve their OP's questions by adding new, different stuff that they didn't think about initially. The OP didn't put a restriction on adding more magic to his world (he is already using necromancy, afterall), so this indeed answers the question. If you don't like it, you're free to downvote, but your "adding a new variable" argument makes nil sense on this site.
– T. Sar
Nov 21 at 11:12
@nzaman I agree that I'm adding a new variable, but I disagree that it doesn't answer the question. We have a bunch of answers around the site that solve their OP's questions by adding new, different stuff that they didn't think about initially. The OP didn't put a restriction on adding more magic to his world (he is already using necromancy, afterall), so this indeed answers the question. If you don't like it, you're free to downvote, but your "adding a new variable" argument makes nil sense on this site.
– T. Sar
Nov 21 at 11:12
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Since you're presumably a leader of the conservative party, you can encourage the Necromancer Guild to regulate itself. Allow necromancers to create state by state Revival Bar Associations, allow the public to rate the necromancers on Yelp, and even allow newly revived subjects to rate their revival experience. The guilds will eventually publish good revival guidelines and tariffs can be placed on foreign H-1B zombies in order to encourage ethical young wizards to enter the necromancy marketplace.
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Since you're presumably a leader of the conservative party, you can encourage the Necromancer Guild to regulate itself. Allow necromancers to create state by state Revival Bar Associations, allow the public to rate the necromancers on Yelp, and even allow newly revived subjects to rate their revival experience. The guilds will eventually publish good revival guidelines and tariffs can be placed on foreign H-1B zombies in order to encourage ethical young wizards to enter the necromancy marketplace.
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Since you're presumably a leader of the conservative party, you can encourage the Necromancer Guild to regulate itself. Allow necromancers to create state by state Revival Bar Associations, allow the public to rate the necromancers on Yelp, and even allow newly revived subjects to rate their revival experience. The guilds will eventually publish good revival guidelines and tariffs can be placed on foreign H-1B zombies in order to encourage ethical young wizards to enter the necromancy marketplace.
Since you're presumably a leader of the conservative party, you can encourage the Necromancer Guild to regulate itself. Allow necromancers to create state by state Revival Bar Associations, allow the public to rate the necromancers on Yelp, and even allow newly revived subjects to rate their revival experience. The guilds will eventually publish good revival guidelines and tariffs can be placed on foreign H-1B zombies in order to encourage ethical young wizards to enter the necromancy marketplace.
answered Nov 20 at 16:55
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If you were a reasonable person who believed in a free and open market: nothing.
So what if some cut rate necromancer is charging an arm and a leg for their services?!? Don’t pay! The worst thing that happens is you die, and then your family (or better yet, estate) can hire a better, cheaper, and/or more reputable necromancer.
Those dodgey necromancers get shitty yelp reviews and the open market quickly deals with the problem. Sure, there will be some cut rate necromancers preying on the poor with no other options, but still better than being dead, right?
And of course, being the leader of the free world, you can offer the very best of services to those who sign up to a decade or two of completely voluntary military service!
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If you were a reasonable person who believed in a free and open market: nothing.
So what if some cut rate necromancer is charging an arm and a leg for their services?!? Don’t pay! The worst thing that happens is you die, and then your family (or better yet, estate) can hire a better, cheaper, and/or more reputable necromancer.
Those dodgey necromancers get shitty yelp reviews and the open market quickly deals with the problem. Sure, there will be some cut rate necromancers preying on the poor with no other options, but still better than being dead, right?
And of course, being the leader of the free world, you can offer the very best of services to those who sign up to a decade or two of completely voluntary military service!
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If you were a reasonable person who believed in a free and open market: nothing.
So what if some cut rate necromancer is charging an arm and a leg for their services?!? Don’t pay! The worst thing that happens is you die, and then your family (or better yet, estate) can hire a better, cheaper, and/or more reputable necromancer.
Those dodgey necromancers get shitty yelp reviews and the open market quickly deals with the problem. Sure, there will be some cut rate necromancers preying on the poor with no other options, but still better than being dead, right?
And of course, being the leader of the free world, you can offer the very best of services to those who sign up to a decade or two of completely voluntary military service!
If you were a reasonable person who believed in a free and open market: nothing.
So what if some cut rate necromancer is charging an arm and a leg for their services?!? Don’t pay! The worst thing that happens is you die, and then your family (or better yet, estate) can hire a better, cheaper, and/or more reputable necromancer.
Those dodgey necromancers get shitty yelp reviews and the open market quickly deals with the problem. Sure, there will be some cut rate necromancers preying on the poor with no other options, but still better than being dead, right?
And of course, being the leader of the free world, you can offer the very best of services to those who sign up to a decade or two of completely voluntary military service!
answered Nov 20 at 23:14
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There exists many quality laws in the european union, like how much curving is allowed to a banana to be selled there. Why not making one for the undead.
§ 08/15 The undead goods
The necromancer has to guarantee the live of his undead for 3 months. If the undead is dying earlier the customer, gets another for free or the full price back.
If the undead is damaged due to customer actions the warranty expires.
If the undead doesn't fit with the description (skills, power, knowlegde) the customer can return him for the full price.
The customer can always prolongue the contract, to the same price. No highering of the price is allowed.
4.1. If the necromancer (business) sales the first month, it has to be
especially stated, but isn't acknowledged as highering of the price.
4.2. If the necromancer is losing more than 10% of the original contract income due to changings of the value of the currency, the necromancer has the right to readjust the price. The same right has the customer too.
If the necromancer (business) cannot provide the services anymore, the customer beomes the money refunded.
Hope this helps :)
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How would #4 work with inflation?
– vsz
Nov 20 at 20:46
@vsz free market makes necromancing automaticly not too expensive, because of market rules
– Jannis
Nov 21 at 7:51
"The customer can always prolongue the contract, to the same price" - Wow, if I only had a contract signed in 1820 for $100 per month, which would be worth today $2000 per month, but I would still only be paying $100, while the service provider worked at a loss.
– vsz
Nov 21 at 7:54
@vsz you're right ... I was never good at making laws
– Jannis
Nov 21 at 8:10
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There exists many quality laws in the european union, like how much curving is allowed to a banana to be selled there. Why not making one for the undead.
§ 08/15 The undead goods
The necromancer has to guarantee the live of his undead for 3 months. If the undead is dying earlier the customer, gets another for free or the full price back.
If the undead is damaged due to customer actions the warranty expires.
If the undead doesn't fit with the description (skills, power, knowlegde) the customer can return him for the full price.
The customer can always prolongue the contract, to the same price. No highering of the price is allowed.
4.1. If the necromancer (business) sales the first month, it has to be
especially stated, but isn't acknowledged as highering of the price.
4.2. If the necromancer is losing more than 10% of the original contract income due to changings of the value of the currency, the necromancer has the right to readjust the price. The same right has the customer too.
If the necromancer (business) cannot provide the services anymore, the customer beomes the money refunded.
Hope this helps :)
1
How would #4 work with inflation?
– vsz
Nov 20 at 20:46
@vsz free market makes necromancing automaticly not too expensive, because of market rules
– Jannis
Nov 21 at 7:51
"The customer can always prolongue the contract, to the same price" - Wow, if I only had a contract signed in 1820 for $100 per month, which would be worth today $2000 per month, but I would still only be paying $100, while the service provider worked at a loss.
– vsz
Nov 21 at 7:54
@vsz you're right ... I was never good at making laws
– Jannis
Nov 21 at 8:10
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2
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up vote
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There exists many quality laws in the european union, like how much curving is allowed to a banana to be selled there. Why not making one for the undead.
§ 08/15 The undead goods
The necromancer has to guarantee the live of his undead for 3 months. If the undead is dying earlier the customer, gets another for free or the full price back.
If the undead is damaged due to customer actions the warranty expires.
If the undead doesn't fit with the description (skills, power, knowlegde) the customer can return him for the full price.
The customer can always prolongue the contract, to the same price. No highering of the price is allowed.
4.1. If the necromancer (business) sales the first month, it has to be
especially stated, but isn't acknowledged as highering of the price.
4.2. If the necromancer is losing more than 10% of the original contract income due to changings of the value of the currency, the necromancer has the right to readjust the price. The same right has the customer too.
If the necromancer (business) cannot provide the services anymore, the customer beomes the money refunded.
Hope this helps :)
There exists many quality laws in the european union, like how much curving is allowed to a banana to be selled there. Why not making one for the undead.
§ 08/15 The undead goods
The necromancer has to guarantee the live of his undead for 3 months. If the undead is dying earlier the customer, gets another for free or the full price back.
If the undead is damaged due to customer actions the warranty expires.
If the undead doesn't fit with the description (skills, power, knowlegde) the customer can return him for the full price.
The customer can always prolongue the contract, to the same price. No highering of the price is allowed.
4.1. If the necromancer (business) sales the first month, it has to be
especially stated, but isn't acknowledged as highering of the price.
4.2. If the necromancer is losing more than 10% of the original contract income due to changings of the value of the currency, the necromancer has the right to readjust the price. The same right has the customer too.
If the necromancer (business) cannot provide the services anymore, the customer beomes the money refunded.
Hope this helps :)
edited Nov 21 at 8:17
answered Nov 20 at 18:11
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How would #4 work with inflation?
– vsz
Nov 20 at 20:46
@vsz free market makes necromancing automaticly not too expensive, because of market rules
– Jannis
Nov 21 at 7:51
"The customer can always prolongue the contract, to the same price" - Wow, if I only had a contract signed in 1820 for $100 per month, which would be worth today $2000 per month, but I would still only be paying $100, while the service provider worked at a loss.
– vsz
Nov 21 at 7:54
@vsz you're right ... I was never good at making laws
– Jannis
Nov 21 at 8:10
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1
How would #4 work with inflation?
– vsz
Nov 20 at 20:46
@vsz free market makes necromancing automaticly not too expensive, because of market rules
– Jannis
Nov 21 at 7:51
"The customer can always prolongue the contract, to the same price" - Wow, if I only had a contract signed in 1820 for $100 per month, which would be worth today $2000 per month, but I would still only be paying $100, while the service provider worked at a loss.
– vsz
Nov 21 at 7:54
@vsz you're right ... I was never good at making laws
– Jannis
Nov 21 at 8:10
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1
How would #4 work with inflation?
– vsz
Nov 20 at 20:46
How would #4 work with inflation?
– vsz
Nov 20 at 20:46
@vsz free market makes necromancing automaticly not too expensive, because of market rules
– Jannis
Nov 21 at 7:51
@vsz free market makes necromancing automaticly not too expensive, because of market rules
– Jannis
Nov 21 at 7:51
"The customer can always prolongue the contract, to the same price" - Wow, if I only had a contract signed in 1820 for $100 per month, which would be worth today $2000 per month, but I would still only be paying $100, while the service provider worked at a loss.
– vsz
Nov 21 at 7:54
"The customer can always prolongue the contract, to the same price" - Wow, if I only had a contract signed in 1820 for $100 per month, which would be worth today $2000 per month, but I would still only be paying $100, while the service provider worked at a loss.
– vsz
Nov 21 at 7:54
@vsz you're right ... I was never good at making laws
– Jannis
Nov 21 at 8:10
@vsz you're right ... I was never good at making laws
– Jannis
Nov 21 at 8:10
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I see a lot of purely business-oriented answers but none so far that tackle the environmental concerns so here goes
All You Need Is Kill
(not really, but the hyperbolic clickbait helps grab your attention)
Dead bodies, including human ones, contribute to the natural cycle when they decompose. Thus, every zombie resurrected is a corpse snatched from and deprived the Earth. Deny the worms their food and you invite ecological collapse. Therefore we arrive at the principle we need to put into practice: for every pound of flesh in humans resurrected, an equal amount needs to be put back into the Earth
The first step is to measure and record the body weights of zombies raised. The administration and book keeping required would probably oblige the state to set up a Department of Graveland Security, or Department of Resurrection for a simpler title. Resurrection licenses and permits can also be handled by this new agency. Zombie control should be a lot easier than gun control if there isn't an influential lobby backing the necromancers.
Now for the tougher part, putting bodies into the ground. It's hard to do this domestically in a legal manner, although foreign soil is a very different matter. The best way to do so is probably through making use of the death sentence in states that retained it, and pushing for its reinstatement in states that didn't. Graveland Security will have to handle the logging of the inflow of human corpses, and ensuring the appropriate amount of them sit in the soil(no matter what their pesky families might say)
Now for the fun part, putting zombies in foreign territory. You can do so by enlisting necromancers and their zombies as private military contractors with the attendant regulations or lack thereof. Choose some failed state as your battlefield and let them loose. Encourage them to rack up as high a body count as possible through a similar incentive structure to those employed in regular armies. Here you can wring every last drop of plausible deniability as you can from them being PMCs and not formally part of the Army. Meanwhile body cameras on your zombies and follow up "accountancy" waves can help ensure you've reaped enough Third World flesh to fulfill your quota.
You can now terrorise countries for political purposes while throwing a bone to activists on both ends of the political spectrum. The horror and misery created should be perfect for Greenpeace sensationalism, while the alt-right gets to see their fantasy of Nazi zombies slaughtering the "untermensch". All worth it in the name of Mother Nature, of course
Maybe I missed it, but what are "PMCs"? Edit: Ah, "Private Military Contractors"
– Signal15
Nov 21 at 13:49
Wait a second. Most humans go into coffins or get cremated. We don't exactly "go back to the earth".
– user875234
Nov 21 at 15:27
@user875234 Battlefields with high body counts and crimes against humanity don't always allow for such luxuries. That's why I suggested to create such situations
– nullpointer
Nov 22 at 3:13
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I see a lot of purely business-oriented answers but none so far that tackle the environmental concerns so here goes
All You Need Is Kill
(not really, but the hyperbolic clickbait helps grab your attention)
Dead bodies, including human ones, contribute to the natural cycle when they decompose. Thus, every zombie resurrected is a corpse snatched from and deprived the Earth. Deny the worms their food and you invite ecological collapse. Therefore we arrive at the principle we need to put into practice: for every pound of flesh in humans resurrected, an equal amount needs to be put back into the Earth
The first step is to measure and record the body weights of zombies raised. The administration and book keeping required would probably oblige the state to set up a Department of Graveland Security, or Department of Resurrection for a simpler title. Resurrection licenses and permits can also be handled by this new agency. Zombie control should be a lot easier than gun control if there isn't an influential lobby backing the necromancers.
Now for the tougher part, putting bodies into the ground. It's hard to do this domestically in a legal manner, although foreign soil is a very different matter. The best way to do so is probably through making use of the death sentence in states that retained it, and pushing for its reinstatement in states that didn't. Graveland Security will have to handle the logging of the inflow of human corpses, and ensuring the appropriate amount of them sit in the soil(no matter what their pesky families might say)
Now for the fun part, putting zombies in foreign territory. You can do so by enlisting necromancers and their zombies as private military contractors with the attendant regulations or lack thereof. Choose some failed state as your battlefield and let them loose. Encourage them to rack up as high a body count as possible through a similar incentive structure to those employed in regular armies. Here you can wring every last drop of plausible deniability as you can from them being PMCs and not formally part of the Army. Meanwhile body cameras on your zombies and follow up "accountancy" waves can help ensure you've reaped enough Third World flesh to fulfill your quota.
You can now terrorise countries for political purposes while throwing a bone to activists on both ends of the political spectrum. The horror and misery created should be perfect for Greenpeace sensationalism, while the alt-right gets to see their fantasy of Nazi zombies slaughtering the "untermensch". All worth it in the name of Mother Nature, of course
Maybe I missed it, but what are "PMCs"? Edit: Ah, "Private Military Contractors"
– Signal15
Nov 21 at 13:49
Wait a second. Most humans go into coffins or get cremated. We don't exactly "go back to the earth".
– user875234
Nov 21 at 15:27
@user875234 Battlefields with high body counts and crimes against humanity don't always allow for such luxuries. That's why I suggested to create such situations
– nullpointer
Nov 22 at 3:13
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I see a lot of purely business-oriented answers but none so far that tackle the environmental concerns so here goes
All You Need Is Kill
(not really, but the hyperbolic clickbait helps grab your attention)
Dead bodies, including human ones, contribute to the natural cycle when they decompose. Thus, every zombie resurrected is a corpse snatched from and deprived the Earth. Deny the worms their food and you invite ecological collapse. Therefore we arrive at the principle we need to put into practice: for every pound of flesh in humans resurrected, an equal amount needs to be put back into the Earth
The first step is to measure and record the body weights of zombies raised. The administration and book keeping required would probably oblige the state to set up a Department of Graveland Security, or Department of Resurrection for a simpler title. Resurrection licenses and permits can also be handled by this new agency. Zombie control should be a lot easier than gun control if there isn't an influential lobby backing the necromancers.
Now for the tougher part, putting bodies into the ground. It's hard to do this domestically in a legal manner, although foreign soil is a very different matter. The best way to do so is probably through making use of the death sentence in states that retained it, and pushing for its reinstatement in states that didn't. Graveland Security will have to handle the logging of the inflow of human corpses, and ensuring the appropriate amount of them sit in the soil(no matter what their pesky families might say)
Now for the fun part, putting zombies in foreign territory. You can do so by enlisting necromancers and their zombies as private military contractors with the attendant regulations or lack thereof. Choose some failed state as your battlefield and let them loose. Encourage them to rack up as high a body count as possible through a similar incentive structure to those employed in regular armies. Here you can wring every last drop of plausible deniability as you can from them being PMCs and not formally part of the Army. Meanwhile body cameras on your zombies and follow up "accountancy" waves can help ensure you've reaped enough Third World flesh to fulfill your quota.
You can now terrorise countries for political purposes while throwing a bone to activists on both ends of the political spectrum. The horror and misery created should be perfect for Greenpeace sensationalism, while the alt-right gets to see their fantasy of Nazi zombies slaughtering the "untermensch". All worth it in the name of Mother Nature, of course
I see a lot of purely business-oriented answers but none so far that tackle the environmental concerns so here goes
All You Need Is Kill
(not really, but the hyperbolic clickbait helps grab your attention)
Dead bodies, including human ones, contribute to the natural cycle when they decompose. Thus, every zombie resurrected is a corpse snatched from and deprived the Earth. Deny the worms their food and you invite ecological collapse. Therefore we arrive at the principle we need to put into practice: for every pound of flesh in humans resurrected, an equal amount needs to be put back into the Earth
The first step is to measure and record the body weights of zombies raised. The administration and book keeping required would probably oblige the state to set up a Department of Graveland Security, or Department of Resurrection for a simpler title. Resurrection licenses and permits can also be handled by this new agency. Zombie control should be a lot easier than gun control if there isn't an influential lobby backing the necromancers.
Now for the tougher part, putting bodies into the ground. It's hard to do this domestically in a legal manner, although foreign soil is a very different matter. The best way to do so is probably through making use of the death sentence in states that retained it, and pushing for its reinstatement in states that didn't. Graveland Security will have to handle the logging of the inflow of human corpses, and ensuring the appropriate amount of them sit in the soil(no matter what their pesky families might say)
Now for the fun part, putting zombies in foreign territory. You can do so by enlisting necromancers and their zombies as private military contractors with the attendant regulations or lack thereof. Choose some failed state as your battlefield and let them loose. Encourage them to rack up as high a body count as possible through a similar incentive structure to those employed in regular armies. Here you can wring every last drop of plausible deniability as you can from them being PMCs and not formally part of the Army. Meanwhile body cameras on your zombies and follow up "accountancy" waves can help ensure you've reaped enough Third World flesh to fulfill your quota.
You can now terrorise countries for political purposes while throwing a bone to activists on both ends of the political spectrum. The horror and misery created should be perfect for Greenpeace sensationalism, while the alt-right gets to see their fantasy of Nazi zombies slaughtering the "untermensch". All worth it in the name of Mother Nature, of course
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Maybe I missed it, but what are "PMCs"? Edit: Ah, "Private Military Contractors"
– Signal15
Nov 21 at 13:49
Wait a second. Most humans go into coffins or get cremated. We don't exactly "go back to the earth".
– user875234
Nov 21 at 15:27
@user875234 Battlefields with high body counts and crimes against humanity don't always allow for such luxuries. That's why I suggested to create such situations
– nullpointer
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Maybe I missed it, but what are "PMCs"? Edit: Ah, "Private Military Contractors"
– Signal15
Nov 21 at 13:49
Wait a second. Most humans go into coffins or get cremated. We don't exactly "go back to the earth".
– user875234
Nov 21 at 15:27
@user875234 Battlefields with high body counts and crimes against humanity don't always allow for such luxuries. That's why I suggested to create such situations
– nullpointer
Nov 22 at 3:13
Maybe I missed it, but what are "PMCs"? Edit: Ah, "Private Military Contractors"
– Signal15
Nov 21 at 13:49
Maybe I missed it, but what are "PMCs"? Edit: Ah, "Private Military Contractors"
– Signal15
Nov 21 at 13:49
Wait a second. Most humans go into coffins or get cremated. We don't exactly "go back to the earth".
– user875234
Nov 21 at 15:27
Wait a second. Most humans go into coffins or get cremated. We don't exactly "go back to the earth".
– user875234
Nov 21 at 15:27
@user875234 Battlefields with high body counts and crimes against humanity don't always allow for such luxuries. That's why I suggested to create such situations
– nullpointer
Nov 22 at 3:13
@user875234 Battlefields with high body counts and crimes against humanity don't always allow for such luxuries. That's why I suggested to create such situations
– nullpointer
Nov 22 at 3:13
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- Control the resources used by the ritual itself.
- Register every individual that has been resurrected.
- Certification requires training.
- Resources are only acquirable by certified individuals with a strong cross-check on stock vs resurected.
- Enforce compulsory Warranties such as the resurrected must remain "alive", pass "psychological" examinations, and not have certain deterioration for at least x days - foregoing alternate reasons for failing such as a car crash.
- Criminalise certain practices such as raising mindless zombies, resurrection without a licence, carrying resurrection materials without authorisation.
- Fortify cemitaries, and morgues.
- Permit and establish support groups and unions for both the professionals, and the patients. This provides oversight, and a sense of community.
- Provide public system resurrection, with a set price. Permit private-system resurrections, they will have to be "better" to get clients.
- Require resurrections to be performed in front of other (frequently rotated) necromancers.
Just a few thoughts.
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- Control the resources used by the ritual itself.
- Register every individual that has been resurrected.
- Certification requires training.
- Resources are only acquirable by certified individuals with a strong cross-check on stock vs resurected.
- Enforce compulsory Warranties such as the resurrected must remain "alive", pass "psychological" examinations, and not have certain deterioration for at least x days - foregoing alternate reasons for failing such as a car crash.
- Criminalise certain practices such as raising mindless zombies, resurrection without a licence, carrying resurrection materials without authorisation.
- Fortify cemitaries, and morgues.
- Permit and establish support groups and unions for both the professionals, and the patients. This provides oversight, and a sense of community.
- Provide public system resurrection, with a set price. Permit private-system resurrections, they will have to be "better" to get clients.
- Require resurrections to be performed in front of other (frequently rotated) necromancers.
Just a few thoughts.
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- Control the resources used by the ritual itself.
- Register every individual that has been resurrected.
- Certification requires training.
- Resources are only acquirable by certified individuals with a strong cross-check on stock vs resurected.
- Enforce compulsory Warranties such as the resurrected must remain "alive", pass "psychological" examinations, and not have certain deterioration for at least x days - foregoing alternate reasons for failing such as a car crash.
- Criminalise certain practices such as raising mindless zombies, resurrection without a licence, carrying resurrection materials without authorisation.
- Fortify cemitaries, and morgues.
- Permit and establish support groups and unions for both the professionals, and the patients. This provides oversight, and a sense of community.
- Provide public system resurrection, with a set price. Permit private-system resurrections, they will have to be "better" to get clients.
- Require resurrections to be performed in front of other (frequently rotated) necromancers.
Just a few thoughts.
- Control the resources used by the ritual itself.
- Register every individual that has been resurrected.
- Certification requires training.
- Resources are only acquirable by certified individuals with a strong cross-check on stock vs resurected.
- Enforce compulsory Warranties such as the resurrected must remain "alive", pass "psychological" examinations, and not have certain deterioration for at least x days - foregoing alternate reasons for failing such as a car crash.
- Criminalise certain practices such as raising mindless zombies, resurrection without a licence, carrying resurrection materials without authorisation.
- Fortify cemitaries, and morgues.
- Permit and establish support groups and unions for both the professionals, and the patients. This provides oversight, and a sense of community.
- Provide public system resurrection, with a set price. Permit private-system resurrections, they will have to be "better" to get clients.
- Require resurrections to be performed in front of other (frequently rotated) necromancers.
Just a few thoughts.
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The only answer is education. An informed public will be more resilient to scams. Additionally, you could open trade schools so that the power of necromancy is where it belongs, with the people. Raise up your people first. Then raise the dead.
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The only answer is education. An informed public will be more resilient to scams. Additionally, you could open trade schools so that the power of necromancy is where it belongs, with the people. Raise up your people first. Then raise the dead.
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The only answer is education. An informed public will be more resilient to scams. Additionally, you could open trade schools so that the power of necromancy is where it belongs, with the people. Raise up your people first. Then raise the dead.
The only answer is education. An informed public will be more resilient to scams. Additionally, you could open trade schools so that the power of necromancy is where it belongs, with the people. Raise up your people first. Then raise the dead.
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Build a W.A.L.L.
And by WALL, you mean the Wights Animated to Legal Limbo task force. We all know illegal Aliens are entering the country via necromantic resurrection. Let WALL keep them in detention centers (conveniently, large buildings called “malls” exist from the last century. Just turn the “M” upside down) around the country in a tangle of legal states (only the unskilled ones from Mars though; Saturians and Jovians are fine). This is the perfect way to make good on two campaign promises at once (to kill two liberals with one tweet, as they say).
Impose tariffs on the nether realm
You need a trade war with the underworld. Place a tariff on the flow of souls to the other side; that will keep people from dying. Your distant relative, D. J. T. Cthulhu: Supreme Leader of the Underworld, will almost certainly retaliate with a tariff of their own on necromancers wishing to export souls.
Get the house majority leaders, cronenbergs Paul Pelosi and Nancy Ryan, on TV saying how good this will be for the economy.
Taking these steps will surely undermine the resurrection market, simultaneously ignoring the issue and making you look proactive.
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Build a W.A.L.L.
And by WALL, you mean the Wights Animated to Legal Limbo task force. We all know illegal Aliens are entering the country via necromantic resurrection. Let WALL keep them in detention centers (conveniently, large buildings called “malls” exist from the last century. Just turn the “M” upside down) around the country in a tangle of legal states (only the unskilled ones from Mars though; Saturians and Jovians are fine). This is the perfect way to make good on two campaign promises at once (to kill two liberals with one tweet, as they say).
Impose tariffs on the nether realm
You need a trade war with the underworld. Place a tariff on the flow of souls to the other side; that will keep people from dying. Your distant relative, D. J. T. Cthulhu: Supreme Leader of the Underworld, will almost certainly retaliate with a tariff of their own on necromancers wishing to export souls.
Get the house majority leaders, cronenbergs Paul Pelosi and Nancy Ryan, on TV saying how good this will be for the economy.
Taking these steps will surely undermine the resurrection market, simultaneously ignoring the issue and making you look proactive.
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Build a W.A.L.L.
And by WALL, you mean the Wights Animated to Legal Limbo task force. We all know illegal Aliens are entering the country via necromantic resurrection. Let WALL keep them in detention centers (conveniently, large buildings called “malls” exist from the last century. Just turn the “M” upside down) around the country in a tangle of legal states (only the unskilled ones from Mars though; Saturians and Jovians are fine). This is the perfect way to make good on two campaign promises at once (to kill two liberals with one tweet, as they say).
Impose tariffs on the nether realm
You need a trade war with the underworld. Place a tariff on the flow of souls to the other side; that will keep people from dying. Your distant relative, D. J. T. Cthulhu: Supreme Leader of the Underworld, will almost certainly retaliate with a tariff of their own on necromancers wishing to export souls.
Get the house majority leaders, cronenbergs Paul Pelosi and Nancy Ryan, on TV saying how good this will be for the economy.
Taking these steps will surely undermine the resurrection market, simultaneously ignoring the issue and making you look proactive.
Build a W.A.L.L.
And by WALL, you mean the Wights Animated to Legal Limbo task force. We all know illegal Aliens are entering the country via necromantic resurrection. Let WALL keep them in detention centers (conveniently, large buildings called “malls” exist from the last century. Just turn the “M” upside down) around the country in a tangle of legal states (only the unskilled ones from Mars though; Saturians and Jovians are fine). This is the perfect way to make good on two campaign promises at once (to kill two liberals with one tweet, as they say).
Impose tariffs on the nether realm
You need a trade war with the underworld. Place a tariff on the flow of souls to the other side; that will keep people from dying. Your distant relative, D. J. T. Cthulhu: Supreme Leader of the Underworld, will almost certainly retaliate with a tariff of their own on necromancers wishing to export souls.
Get the house majority leaders, cronenbergs Paul Pelosi and Nancy Ryan, on TV saying how good this will be for the economy.
Taking these steps will surely undermine the resurrection market, simultaneously ignoring the issue and making you look proactive.
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Depends whether or not you want to be re-elected as president
The first solution that came to mind (not sure what that says about me) is to gather up a group of necromancers. Before they enter dress each one into exactly identical clothing and cover up every feature that tells them apart. Kill off about half of the necromancers and let the other halve resurrect them. Since they get resurrected with all their previous skills they should still be able to resurrect others. Kill off the other halve and repeat the process. The newly resurrected necromancers should have no other choice than to do exactly as their fine leader tells them.
Why? If they've resurrected each without the magical input of the leader they needn't be loyal to them in any way.
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Depends whether or not you want to be re-elected as president
The first solution that came to mind (not sure what that says about me) is to gather up a group of necromancers. Before they enter dress each one into exactly identical clothing and cover up every feature that tells them apart. Kill off about half of the necromancers and let the other halve resurrect them. Since they get resurrected with all their previous skills they should still be able to resurrect others. Kill off the other halve and repeat the process. The newly resurrected necromancers should have no other choice than to do exactly as their fine leader tells them.
Why? If they've resurrected each without the magical input of the leader they needn't be loyal to them in any way.
– Ash
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Depends whether or not you want to be re-elected as president
The first solution that came to mind (not sure what that says about me) is to gather up a group of necromancers. Before they enter dress each one into exactly identical clothing and cover up every feature that tells them apart. Kill off about half of the necromancers and let the other halve resurrect them. Since they get resurrected with all their previous skills they should still be able to resurrect others. Kill off the other halve and repeat the process. The newly resurrected necromancers should have no other choice than to do exactly as their fine leader tells them.
Depends whether or not you want to be re-elected as president
The first solution that came to mind (not sure what that says about me) is to gather up a group of necromancers. Before they enter dress each one into exactly identical clothing and cover up every feature that tells them apart. Kill off about half of the necromancers and let the other halve resurrect them. Since they get resurrected with all their previous skills they should still be able to resurrect others. Kill off the other halve and repeat the process. The newly resurrected necromancers should have no other choice than to do exactly as their fine leader tells them.
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Why? If they've resurrected each without the magical input of the leader they needn't be loyal to them in any way.
– Ash
Nov 20 at 15:59
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Why? If they've resurrected each without the magical input of the leader they needn't be loyal to them in any way.
– Ash
Nov 20 at 15:59
Why? If they've resurrected each without the magical input of the leader they needn't be loyal to them in any way.
– Ash
Nov 20 at 15:59
Why? If they've resurrected each without the magical input of the leader they needn't be loyal to them in any way.
– Ash
Nov 20 at 15:59
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If the legal system and economy is controlled by the far Right, then the Free Market will regulate the necromancers.
No one will pay for a half-assed job or one that doesn't last long enough, once they discover that the company they were thinking of using will not do what they advertise. I mean, wouldn't you check the company's Yelp rating before you get started? Every review comes from an honest customer (right?).
If you're unlucky (stupid) enough to be one of the first customers of a new company that doesn't do what they promised, you can always sue them. Since the legal system is also regulated by the Free Market, you will get the very best attorney you can afford. And so will the mega-corporation you're suing. All the judges will be the very best money can...I mean the best at legal stuff.
There will be no bias in the system because the Free Market fixes all ills. If you're dumb enough to pick a bad company, that's on you. Pick a better one next time a loved one dies.
This is the best answer and will fix everything. Or did you want an answer with suggestions that will actually work?
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If Brazil is an example for anything, people will pay for a half-assed job that doesn't last long enough if they are even marginally cheaper. Or offer cookies. Or is somehow linked to their church. Or because it says "gluten-free necromancy" on their front window. Free Market works if you have a non-stupid populace, which is unfortunately not the case most of the time.
– T. Sar
Nov 20 at 18:32
..And I may have missed a bit of sarcasm there, I think. Hm.
– T. Sar
Nov 20 at 18:34
A bit of sarcasm? No way. I was going for full-frontal sarcasm.
– Cyn
Nov 20 at 20:48
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If the legal system and economy is controlled by the far Right, then the Free Market will regulate the necromancers.
No one will pay for a half-assed job or one that doesn't last long enough, once they discover that the company they were thinking of using will not do what they advertise. I mean, wouldn't you check the company's Yelp rating before you get started? Every review comes from an honest customer (right?).
If you're unlucky (stupid) enough to be one of the first customers of a new company that doesn't do what they promised, you can always sue them. Since the legal system is also regulated by the Free Market, you will get the very best attorney you can afford. And so will the mega-corporation you're suing. All the judges will be the very best money can...I mean the best at legal stuff.
There will be no bias in the system because the Free Market fixes all ills. If you're dumb enough to pick a bad company, that's on you. Pick a better one next time a loved one dies.
This is the best answer and will fix everything. Or did you want an answer with suggestions that will actually work?
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If Brazil is an example for anything, people will pay for a half-assed job that doesn't last long enough if they are even marginally cheaper. Or offer cookies. Or is somehow linked to their church. Or because it says "gluten-free necromancy" on their front window. Free Market works if you have a non-stupid populace, which is unfortunately not the case most of the time.
– T. Sar
Nov 20 at 18:32
..And I may have missed a bit of sarcasm there, I think. Hm.
– T. Sar
Nov 20 at 18:34
A bit of sarcasm? No way. I was going for full-frontal sarcasm.
– Cyn
Nov 20 at 20:48
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If the legal system and economy is controlled by the far Right, then the Free Market will regulate the necromancers.
No one will pay for a half-assed job or one that doesn't last long enough, once they discover that the company they were thinking of using will not do what they advertise. I mean, wouldn't you check the company's Yelp rating before you get started? Every review comes from an honest customer (right?).
If you're unlucky (stupid) enough to be one of the first customers of a new company that doesn't do what they promised, you can always sue them. Since the legal system is also regulated by the Free Market, you will get the very best attorney you can afford. And so will the mega-corporation you're suing. All the judges will be the very best money can...I mean the best at legal stuff.
There will be no bias in the system because the Free Market fixes all ills. If you're dumb enough to pick a bad company, that's on you. Pick a better one next time a loved one dies.
This is the best answer and will fix everything. Or did you want an answer with suggestions that will actually work?
If the legal system and economy is controlled by the far Right, then the Free Market will regulate the necromancers.
No one will pay for a half-assed job or one that doesn't last long enough, once they discover that the company they were thinking of using will not do what they advertise. I mean, wouldn't you check the company's Yelp rating before you get started? Every review comes from an honest customer (right?).
If you're unlucky (stupid) enough to be one of the first customers of a new company that doesn't do what they promised, you can always sue them. Since the legal system is also regulated by the Free Market, you will get the very best attorney you can afford. And so will the mega-corporation you're suing. All the judges will be the very best money can...I mean the best at legal stuff.
There will be no bias in the system because the Free Market fixes all ills. If you're dumb enough to pick a bad company, that's on you. Pick a better one next time a loved one dies.
This is the best answer and will fix everything. Or did you want an answer with suggestions that will actually work?
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If Brazil is an example for anything, people will pay for a half-assed job that doesn't last long enough if they are even marginally cheaper. Or offer cookies. Or is somehow linked to their church. Or because it says "gluten-free necromancy" on their front window. Free Market works if you have a non-stupid populace, which is unfortunately not the case most of the time.
– T. Sar
Nov 20 at 18:32
..And I may have missed a bit of sarcasm there, I think. Hm.
– T. Sar
Nov 20 at 18:34
A bit of sarcasm? No way. I was going for full-frontal sarcasm.
– Cyn
Nov 20 at 20:48
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If Brazil is an example for anything, people will pay for a half-assed job that doesn't last long enough if they are even marginally cheaper. Or offer cookies. Or is somehow linked to their church. Or because it says "gluten-free necromancy" on their front window. Free Market works if you have a non-stupid populace, which is unfortunately not the case most of the time.
– T. Sar
Nov 20 at 18:32
..And I may have missed a bit of sarcasm there, I think. Hm.
– T. Sar
Nov 20 at 18:34
A bit of sarcasm? No way. I was going for full-frontal sarcasm.
– Cyn
Nov 20 at 20:48
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If Brazil is an example for anything, people will pay for a half-assed job that doesn't last long enough if they are even marginally cheaper. Or offer cookies. Or is somehow linked to their church. Or because it says "gluten-free necromancy" on their front window. Free Market works if you have a non-stupid populace, which is unfortunately not the case most of the time.
– T. Sar
Nov 20 at 18:32
If Brazil is an example for anything, people will pay for a half-assed job that doesn't last long enough if they are even marginally cheaper. Or offer cookies. Or is somehow linked to their church. Or because it says "gluten-free necromancy" on their front window. Free Market works if you have a non-stupid populace, which is unfortunately not the case most of the time.
– T. Sar
Nov 20 at 18:32
..And I may have missed a bit of sarcasm there, I think. Hm.
– T. Sar
Nov 20 at 18:34
..And I may have missed a bit of sarcasm there, I think. Hm.
– T. Sar
Nov 20 at 18:34
A bit of sarcasm? No way. I was going for full-frontal sarcasm.
– Cyn
Nov 20 at 20:48
A bit of sarcasm? No way. I was going for full-frontal sarcasm.
– Cyn
Nov 20 at 20:48
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Ban Death
Take a wide scope approach and turn the raising of the dead into a commodity that is no longer competed for. Simply mandate that anyone who dies must be raised again immediately. The government can train huge numbers of people as necromancers and make it a public utility supported by tax dollars. All the perverse incentives of the free market are thus eliminated.
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Ban Death
Take a wide scope approach and turn the raising of the dead into a commodity that is no longer competed for. Simply mandate that anyone who dies must be raised again immediately. The government can train huge numbers of people as necromancers and make it a public utility supported by tax dollars. All the perverse incentives of the free market are thus eliminated.
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Ban Death
Take a wide scope approach and turn the raising of the dead into a commodity that is no longer competed for. Simply mandate that anyone who dies must be raised again immediately. The government can train huge numbers of people as necromancers and make it a public utility supported by tax dollars. All the perverse incentives of the free market are thus eliminated.
Ban Death
Take a wide scope approach and turn the raising of the dead into a commodity that is no longer competed for. Simply mandate that anyone who dies must be raised again immediately. The government can train huge numbers of people as necromancers and make it a public utility supported by tax dollars. All the perverse incentives of the free market are thus eliminated.
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There’s bait in these waters. Looks like what you have here is a “Campbell’s law” Where the testing given to indicate the aptitude of these necromamcers has become corrupt. Perhaps the whole system needs to be reordered so that not just anyone with a grade point average can become a necromamcer. The process for becoming a necromancer should also require some ability to think for oneself and not just memorize or charm their way through the levels, otherwise your gonna end up with a cobra effect. Yay! Games on.
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There’s bait in these waters. Looks like what you have here is a “Campbell’s law” Where the testing given to indicate the aptitude of these necromamcers has become corrupt. Perhaps the whole system needs to be reordered so that not just anyone with a grade point average can become a necromamcer. The process for becoming a necromancer should also require some ability to think for oneself and not just memorize or charm their way through the levels, otherwise your gonna end up with a cobra effect. Yay! Games on.
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There’s bait in these waters. Looks like what you have here is a “Campbell’s law” Where the testing given to indicate the aptitude of these necromamcers has become corrupt. Perhaps the whole system needs to be reordered so that not just anyone with a grade point average can become a necromamcer. The process for becoming a necromancer should also require some ability to think for oneself and not just memorize or charm their way through the levels, otherwise your gonna end up with a cobra effect. Yay! Games on.
There’s bait in these waters. Looks like what you have here is a “Campbell’s law” Where the testing given to indicate the aptitude of these necromamcers has become corrupt. Perhaps the whole system needs to be reordered so that not just anyone with a grade point average can become a necromamcer. The process for becoming a necromancer should also require some ability to think for oneself and not just memorize or charm their way through the levels, otherwise your gonna end up with a cobra effect. Yay! Games on.
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I have two seperate ideas for policing necromancers.
Rather than hunting for bad actors it might he easier to rely on necromancer whistleblowers who would be reimbursed with a share of your hoard.
Enforcing rules could be very easy if necromancers are inclined to go full lich and keep their souls in phylactery. This could be stored by the government and destroyed allowing remote execution. Having your soul safe guarded by awesome federal might could be enough of an incentive to ensure your necromancers submit to oversight.
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I have two seperate ideas for policing necromancers.
Rather than hunting for bad actors it might he easier to rely on necromancer whistleblowers who would be reimbursed with a share of your hoard.
Enforcing rules could be very easy if necromancers are inclined to go full lich and keep their souls in phylactery. This could be stored by the government and destroyed allowing remote execution. Having your soul safe guarded by awesome federal might could be enough of an incentive to ensure your necromancers submit to oversight.
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I have two seperate ideas for policing necromancers.
Rather than hunting for bad actors it might he easier to rely on necromancer whistleblowers who would be reimbursed with a share of your hoard.
Enforcing rules could be very easy if necromancers are inclined to go full lich and keep their souls in phylactery. This could be stored by the government and destroyed allowing remote execution. Having your soul safe guarded by awesome federal might could be enough of an incentive to ensure your necromancers submit to oversight.
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I have two seperate ideas for policing necromancers.
Rather than hunting for bad actors it might he easier to rely on necromancer whistleblowers who would be reimbursed with a share of your hoard.
Enforcing rules could be very easy if necromancers are inclined to go full lich and keep their souls in phylactery. This could be stored by the government and destroyed allowing remote execution. Having your soul safe guarded by awesome federal might could be enough of an incentive to ensure your necromancers submit to oversight.
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Full transparency via Undeath Certificates and Lifeports
The reputation of the Necromancer(s) will follow them everywhere in everything they do in respect to Necromancy. Think of it like vendor reputation at companies such as eBay or Amazon. Everything is tracked and rated, and available immediately for review.
With all Undead needing to be registered, their Necromancer(s) will be listed on their Undeath Certificate and Lifeport.
All procedures required for Undead upkeep are recorded within Lifeports.
All Lifeports list their respective Necromancer(s).
All Undeath Certificates and Lifeports have digital references to the most up-to-date information for the Undead entity and their Necromancer(s).
If it's not quite obvious, underground/grey-market Necromancers will have little to no footprint in the world of regulated Necromancy, making any business with them inherently risky. The more prolific and highly rated the Necromancer, the more likely they are to get repeat business and new customers.
Black-market Necromancers will remain a problem, but they would be considered the inevitable outlier to this system. Compulsory changes that would affect them would require manipulating the fabric of reality between the realms of existence, and that requires a 2/3rds majority vote from the Gods; they haven't agreed on anything in that capacity since entropy was introduced to curb the blight of the mortals.
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Full transparency via Undeath Certificates and Lifeports
The reputation of the Necromancer(s) will follow them everywhere in everything they do in respect to Necromancy. Think of it like vendor reputation at companies such as eBay or Amazon. Everything is tracked and rated, and available immediately for review.
With all Undead needing to be registered, their Necromancer(s) will be listed on their Undeath Certificate and Lifeport.
All procedures required for Undead upkeep are recorded within Lifeports.
All Lifeports list their respective Necromancer(s).
All Undeath Certificates and Lifeports have digital references to the most up-to-date information for the Undead entity and their Necromancer(s).
If it's not quite obvious, underground/grey-market Necromancers will have little to no footprint in the world of regulated Necromancy, making any business with them inherently risky. The more prolific and highly rated the Necromancer, the more likely they are to get repeat business and new customers.
Black-market Necromancers will remain a problem, but they would be considered the inevitable outlier to this system. Compulsory changes that would affect them would require manipulating the fabric of reality between the realms of existence, and that requires a 2/3rds majority vote from the Gods; they haven't agreed on anything in that capacity since entropy was introduced to curb the blight of the mortals.
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Full transparency via Undeath Certificates and Lifeports
The reputation of the Necromancer(s) will follow them everywhere in everything they do in respect to Necromancy. Think of it like vendor reputation at companies such as eBay or Amazon. Everything is tracked and rated, and available immediately for review.
With all Undead needing to be registered, their Necromancer(s) will be listed on their Undeath Certificate and Lifeport.
All procedures required for Undead upkeep are recorded within Lifeports.
All Lifeports list their respective Necromancer(s).
All Undeath Certificates and Lifeports have digital references to the most up-to-date information for the Undead entity and their Necromancer(s).
If it's not quite obvious, underground/grey-market Necromancers will have little to no footprint in the world of regulated Necromancy, making any business with them inherently risky. The more prolific and highly rated the Necromancer, the more likely they are to get repeat business and new customers.
Black-market Necromancers will remain a problem, but they would be considered the inevitable outlier to this system. Compulsory changes that would affect them would require manipulating the fabric of reality between the realms of existence, and that requires a 2/3rds majority vote from the Gods; they haven't agreed on anything in that capacity since entropy was introduced to curb the blight of the mortals.
Full transparency via Undeath Certificates and Lifeports
The reputation of the Necromancer(s) will follow them everywhere in everything they do in respect to Necromancy. Think of it like vendor reputation at companies such as eBay or Amazon. Everything is tracked and rated, and available immediately for review.
With all Undead needing to be registered, their Necromancer(s) will be listed on their Undeath Certificate and Lifeport.
All procedures required for Undead upkeep are recorded within Lifeports.
All Lifeports list their respective Necromancer(s).
All Undeath Certificates and Lifeports have digital references to the most up-to-date information for the Undead entity and their Necromancer(s).
If it's not quite obvious, underground/grey-market Necromancers will have little to no footprint in the world of regulated Necromancy, making any business with them inherently risky. The more prolific and highly rated the Necromancer, the more likely they are to get repeat business and new customers.
Black-market Necromancers will remain a problem, but they would be considered the inevitable outlier to this system. Compulsory changes that would affect them would require manipulating the fabric of reality between the realms of existence, and that requires a 2/3rds majority vote from the Gods; they haven't agreed on anything in that capacity since entropy was introduced to curb the blight of the mortals.
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Aren't responsible business practices another rant from the lamestream media?
– L.Dutch♦
Nov 20 at 15:44
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If you want to regulate necromancers, then you probably shouldn't have enshrined a right to practice in the 103rd Amendment. Seems like that's going to be interpreted as an absolute. Instead, the amendment should specify the actual individual rights that are being proscribed (or created), and let the Congress handle the details of implementation and regulation. Note that any voting rights of the dead should be specified in the amendment.
– user535733
Nov 20 at 15:54
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-1 not enough ALL CAPS.
– Nic Hartley
Nov 20 at 18:30
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Besides @user535733's points, you're going to need a DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) equivalent, or extend it to cover necromancy. I might not want to come back! And this does strange things to the death penalty, possibly. There was one Sci-Fi short story I read (thought it was Zahn, but I can't recall), where (chemically/electronically) raised zombies were a thing, and used as movie extras/assembly line robots/pleasure bots - big companies were just buying the rights from poor families, or putting it into employment contracts...
– Clockwork-Muse
Nov 20 at 19:06
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Replace "necromancer" with "contractor" or "mechanic", and "zombie" with the appropriate noun, and you already have a good model of how things will shake out.
– Nuclear Wang
Nov 20 at 20:55