Underground condition preventing plant growth on a planet












4














As title, what condition could prevent plant growth from below a planet surface?
I've considered considered removing all water from the planet, both underground and above the surface, but that doesn't feel right.
Is there any other way to completely prevent any kind of flora from growing even with abundance of water sources?










share|improve this question






















  • Either an absence of nutrients or trace elements or the presence of plant toxins.
    – a4android
    Nov 30 at 1:19






  • 1




    Ecologists ran amok and scrubbed all carbon dioxide from the atmosphere? A future Elon Musk switched to lithium iron phosphate batteries and used up all the phosphorus? Global cooling froze all water? A careless alien janitor spilled a large amount of herbicide? A stupid industrial accident released a large amount of oxygen in the atmosphere?
    – AlexP
    Nov 30 at 2:06










  • Not sure it's possible. Unless you have multiple conditions. I first thought of high levels of salt in the soil, but some plants thrive in the ocean or on its edges.
    – Cyn
    Nov 30 at 4:24










  • Nothing! Life always finds a way, that is the whole point of evolution. Your best bet would be to not have life evolve in the first place.
    – nzaman
    Nov 30 at 6:15










  • "No plant growth at all" means that the only possible life is simple chemosynthesizing microbes.
    – RonJohn
    Nov 30 at 6:16
















4














As title, what condition could prevent plant growth from below a planet surface?
I've considered considered removing all water from the planet, both underground and above the surface, but that doesn't feel right.
Is there any other way to completely prevent any kind of flora from growing even with abundance of water sources?










share|improve this question






















  • Either an absence of nutrients or trace elements or the presence of plant toxins.
    – a4android
    Nov 30 at 1:19






  • 1




    Ecologists ran amok and scrubbed all carbon dioxide from the atmosphere? A future Elon Musk switched to lithium iron phosphate batteries and used up all the phosphorus? Global cooling froze all water? A careless alien janitor spilled a large amount of herbicide? A stupid industrial accident released a large amount of oxygen in the atmosphere?
    – AlexP
    Nov 30 at 2:06










  • Not sure it's possible. Unless you have multiple conditions. I first thought of high levels of salt in the soil, but some plants thrive in the ocean or on its edges.
    – Cyn
    Nov 30 at 4:24










  • Nothing! Life always finds a way, that is the whole point of evolution. Your best bet would be to not have life evolve in the first place.
    – nzaman
    Nov 30 at 6:15










  • "No plant growth at all" means that the only possible life is simple chemosynthesizing microbes.
    – RonJohn
    Nov 30 at 6:16














4












4








4







As title, what condition could prevent plant growth from below a planet surface?
I've considered considered removing all water from the planet, both underground and above the surface, but that doesn't feel right.
Is there any other way to completely prevent any kind of flora from growing even with abundance of water sources?










share|improve this question













As title, what condition could prevent plant growth from below a planet surface?
I've considered considered removing all water from the planet, both underground and above the surface, but that doesn't feel right.
Is there any other way to completely prevent any kind of flora from growing even with abundance of water sources?







planets worldbuilding-process landscaping






share|improve this question













share|improve this question











share|improve this question




share|improve this question










asked Nov 30 at 0:24









user57841

233




233












  • Either an absence of nutrients or trace elements or the presence of plant toxins.
    – a4android
    Nov 30 at 1:19






  • 1




    Ecologists ran amok and scrubbed all carbon dioxide from the atmosphere? A future Elon Musk switched to lithium iron phosphate batteries and used up all the phosphorus? Global cooling froze all water? A careless alien janitor spilled a large amount of herbicide? A stupid industrial accident released a large amount of oxygen in the atmosphere?
    – AlexP
    Nov 30 at 2:06










  • Not sure it's possible. Unless you have multiple conditions. I first thought of high levels of salt in the soil, but some plants thrive in the ocean or on its edges.
    – Cyn
    Nov 30 at 4:24










  • Nothing! Life always finds a way, that is the whole point of evolution. Your best bet would be to not have life evolve in the first place.
    – nzaman
    Nov 30 at 6:15










  • "No plant growth at all" means that the only possible life is simple chemosynthesizing microbes.
    – RonJohn
    Nov 30 at 6:16


















  • Either an absence of nutrients or trace elements or the presence of plant toxins.
    – a4android
    Nov 30 at 1:19






  • 1




    Ecologists ran amok and scrubbed all carbon dioxide from the atmosphere? A future Elon Musk switched to lithium iron phosphate batteries and used up all the phosphorus? Global cooling froze all water? A careless alien janitor spilled a large amount of herbicide? A stupid industrial accident released a large amount of oxygen in the atmosphere?
    – AlexP
    Nov 30 at 2:06










  • Not sure it's possible. Unless you have multiple conditions. I first thought of high levels of salt in the soil, but some plants thrive in the ocean or on its edges.
    – Cyn
    Nov 30 at 4:24










  • Nothing! Life always finds a way, that is the whole point of evolution. Your best bet would be to not have life evolve in the first place.
    – nzaman
    Nov 30 at 6:15










  • "No plant growth at all" means that the only possible life is simple chemosynthesizing microbes.
    – RonJohn
    Nov 30 at 6:16
















Either an absence of nutrients or trace elements or the presence of plant toxins.
– a4android
Nov 30 at 1:19




Either an absence of nutrients or trace elements or the presence of plant toxins.
– a4android
Nov 30 at 1:19




1




1




Ecologists ran amok and scrubbed all carbon dioxide from the atmosphere? A future Elon Musk switched to lithium iron phosphate batteries and used up all the phosphorus? Global cooling froze all water? A careless alien janitor spilled a large amount of herbicide? A stupid industrial accident released a large amount of oxygen in the atmosphere?
– AlexP
Nov 30 at 2:06




Ecologists ran amok and scrubbed all carbon dioxide from the atmosphere? A future Elon Musk switched to lithium iron phosphate batteries and used up all the phosphorus? Global cooling froze all water? A careless alien janitor spilled a large amount of herbicide? A stupid industrial accident released a large amount of oxygen in the atmosphere?
– AlexP
Nov 30 at 2:06












Not sure it's possible. Unless you have multiple conditions. I first thought of high levels of salt in the soil, but some plants thrive in the ocean or on its edges.
– Cyn
Nov 30 at 4:24




Not sure it's possible. Unless you have multiple conditions. I first thought of high levels of salt in the soil, but some plants thrive in the ocean or on its edges.
– Cyn
Nov 30 at 4:24












Nothing! Life always finds a way, that is the whole point of evolution. Your best bet would be to not have life evolve in the first place.
– nzaman
Nov 30 at 6:15




Nothing! Life always finds a way, that is the whole point of evolution. Your best bet would be to not have life evolve in the first place.
– nzaman
Nov 30 at 6:15












"No plant growth at all" means that the only possible life is simple chemosynthesizing microbes.
– RonJohn
Nov 30 at 6:16




"No plant growth at all" means that the only possible life is simple chemosynthesizing microbes.
– RonJohn
Nov 30 at 6:16










8 Answers
8






active

oldest

votes


















6














Given long enough timescales some lifeforms will exploit your limitations and thrive right on those constraints.



Not a solution, but a very efficient species of snails, which eat anything not snail-like, could prevent plans from growing for a long time. They would adapt to eat any naturally evolving plants, and could overcome protective mechanisms that the plants would develop. However, such a system is not perfect, and it would allow for some plans to exist at any given time. Thus the only downside is that the equilibrium is somewhere in the region of "few plants" and "many many snails".






share|improve this answer























  • That's something I hadn't considered, thanks!
    – user57841
    Nov 30 at 7:29






  • 3




    What stops the snails starving to death once they eat all the planets...allowing the plants to recover?
    – Tim B
    Nov 30 at 14:27










  • Plants that mimic snails are also a very real option. Or plants toxic to those snails. Or - you know - good old thorns. Snails are surprisingly resilient to impalement, but they can't eat what they can't reach. Thorns with toxic tips in case of snails that decide whatever's being protected is worth the effort of just chewing through the defenses.
    – John Dvorak
    Nov 30 at 15:08






  • 1




    Make them worms made of silicon with a bizzare lifecycle to keep things interesting. Perhaps have them secrete something toxic in high concentrations that’s immensely valuable because of it’s mystical properties??
    – Joe Bloggs
    Nov 30 at 17:32



















5














Thoughts:




  • Magma, lots of Magma. In essence the "surface" is very thin, perhaps 2-3 metres. There isn't soil, just basalt's and other igneous rocks. The rocks are warm to hot all the time.


  • The planet is solid, no liquid iron belt protecting the planet from radiation. Sure as anything this will kill a planet. Just look at mars.







share|improve this answer





























    2















    As title, what condition could prevent plant growth from below a planet surface?




    Classically plants thrive on a process known as photosynthesis - they use energy from the sun's light in order to convert carbon and water into carbohydrates, and from there they get their energy.



    Also classically the underground is a dark place that gets no sunlight[citation needed]. That should be enough to keep plants from growin in there.






    share|improve this answer

















    • 2




      I think the question is "what (that is below the surface) could prevent plant growth" and not "what is it that could prevent plants from growing while beneath the surface".
      – QWriter
      Nov 30 at 2:14



















    1














    A simple solution would be to make the soil uninhabitable to organics due to some chemical. If this was intentional, by some advanced species, they could simply place a strong acid or poison in the ground. If this was part of the planet's nature, it could happen by the soil being incredibly acidic, dissolving most organisms before they can develop.






    share|improve this answer





















    • Chemical can come from the rocks underneath, or from acid rain. Perhaps volcanic activity could add enough chemicals to atmosphere to make rain deadly.
      – Bald Bear
      Nov 30 at 1:02






    • 3




      The problem is that Oxygen is a chemical that threatened life. Now just look at the thing. Similarly nitrite, and nitrates are poisonous and life started devouring them. Even indirect chemical poisoning like lignin (basically wood) was becoming a problem by locking up too much carbon, essentially starving all photosynthesis and you now see life happily eating that too. My point is that poisonous is purely about perspective, and easily overcome. The poison would need to be distributed everywhere, very quickly.
      – Kain0_0
      Nov 30 at 6:00





















    0














    Perhaps there isn't enough topsoil to support the growth of new plant life. This was an issue on our own planet after the end of the ice age, as moving glaciers scoured large areas as they melted in areas such as northern Canada, removing the topsoil that had existed there previously. Other examples of topsoil-removing events include high winds, abnormally heavy rainfall, and exposure to intense heat and/or radiation. So long as an event such as this occurs at a regular interval, substantial plant life should be unable to grow.






    share|improve this answer





























      0














      If the soil contains (for whatever reason) no magnesium, then any life that existed couldn't make chlorophyll as we know it, which means no plants.



      You could also try some kind of other organism that out-competes the plants, like a soil microbe that uses up resources instead of making them available.



      An occasional catastrophic rad-blast would also do the trick.






      share|improve this answer





























        0














        A combination of a couple of other answers: A toxin that actually binds the nutrients required, preventing any plant from taking them up and using them. (This is how some herbicides work today.)



        This would likely affect certain non-plants, as well (microbes, fungus, etc.).
        Or, perhaps a microbe secretes the toxin so it can monopolize the nutrients. You could develop a nasty "invasive species" story from that.






        share|improve this answer





























          0














          Soil Depletion1



          Soil fertility depends on several factors. Changing one or more of these can inhibit that fertility:




          • Sufficient soil depth for root growth and water retention.

          • Good drainage

          • Topsoil with proper organic matter

          • Soil pH between 5.5 and 7.0

          • Adequate concentrations of essential plant nutrients

          • Presence of a range of microorganisms.


          Disrupt any one or more variables in the above balance and your soil won't support life. For example, if some event (chemical warfare, etc.) destroys all the microbial life, then your soil won't support plants. Or make the soil acidic or basic and plants cannot grow.



          Robert Heinlein touches on this briefly in "Farmer in the Sky". As part of their efforts to terraform Ganymede involves bringing microbial life to the moon to support plant growth (it's a minor point and not one of the major plot points at all, but the narrator talks to one of the older colonists who mentions that he has the best microbes).






          share|improve this answer





















            Your Answer





            StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
            return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
            StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
            StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
            });
            });
            }, "mathjax-editing");

            StackExchange.ready(function() {
            var channelOptions = {
            tags: "".split(" "),
            id: "579"
            };
            initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

            StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
            // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
            if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
            StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
            createEditor();
            });
            }
            else {
            createEditor();
            }
            });

            function createEditor() {
            StackExchange.prepareEditor({
            heartbeatType: 'answer',
            autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
            convertImagesToLinks: false,
            noModals: true,
            showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
            reputationToPostImages: null,
            bindNavPrevention: true,
            postfix: "",
            imageUploader: {
            brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
            contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
            allowUrls: true
            },
            noCode: true, onDemand: true,
            discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
            ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
            });


            }
            });














            draft saved

            draft discarded


















            StackExchange.ready(
            function () {
            StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fworldbuilding.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f131606%2funderground-condition-preventing-plant-growth-on-a-planet%23new-answer', 'question_page');
            }
            );

            Post as a guest















            Required, but never shown

























            8 Answers
            8






            active

            oldest

            votes








            8 Answers
            8






            active

            oldest

            votes









            active

            oldest

            votes






            active

            oldest

            votes









            6














            Given long enough timescales some lifeforms will exploit your limitations and thrive right on those constraints.



            Not a solution, but a very efficient species of snails, which eat anything not snail-like, could prevent plans from growing for a long time. They would adapt to eat any naturally evolving plants, and could overcome protective mechanisms that the plants would develop. However, such a system is not perfect, and it would allow for some plans to exist at any given time. Thus the only downside is that the equilibrium is somewhere in the region of "few plants" and "many many snails".






            share|improve this answer























            • That's something I hadn't considered, thanks!
              – user57841
              Nov 30 at 7:29






            • 3




              What stops the snails starving to death once they eat all the planets...allowing the plants to recover?
              – Tim B
              Nov 30 at 14:27










            • Plants that mimic snails are also a very real option. Or plants toxic to those snails. Or - you know - good old thorns. Snails are surprisingly resilient to impalement, but they can't eat what they can't reach. Thorns with toxic tips in case of snails that decide whatever's being protected is worth the effort of just chewing through the defenses.
              – John Dvorak
              Nov 30 at 15:08






            • 1




              Make them worms made of silicon with a bizzare lifecycle to keep things interesting. Perhaps have them secrete something toxic in high concentrations that’s immensely valuable because of it’s mystical properties??
              – Joe Bloggs
              Nov 30 at 17:32
















            6














            Given long enough timescales some lifeforms will exploit your limitations and thrive right on those constraints.



            Not a solution, but a very efficient species of snails, which eat anything not snail-like, could prevent plans from growing for a long time. They would adapt to eat any naturally evolving plants, and could overcome protective mechanisms that the plants would develop. However, such a system is not perfect, and it would allow for some plans to exist at any given time. Thus the only downside is that the equilibrium is somewhere in the region of "few plants" and "many many snails".






            share|improve this answer























            • That's something I hadn't considered, thanks!
              – user57841
              Nov 30 at 7:29






            • 3




              What stops the snails starving to death once they eat all the planets...allowing the plants to recover?
              – Tim B
              Nov 30 at 14:27










            • Plants that mimic snails are also a very real option. Or plants toxic to those snails. Or - you know - good old thorns. Snails are surprisingly resilient to impalement, but they can't eat what they can't reach. Thorns with toxic tips in case of snails that decide whatever's being protected is worth the effort of just chewing through the defenses.
              – John Dvorak
              Nov 30 at 15:08






            • 1




              Make them worms made of silicon with a bizzare lifecycle to keep things interesting. Perhaps have them secrete something toxic in high concentrations that’s immensely valuable because of it’s mystical properties??
              – Joe Bloggs
              Nov 30 at 17:32














            6












            6








            6






            Given long enough timescales some lifeforms will exploit your limitations and thrive right on those constraints.



            Not a solution, but a very efficient species of snails, which eat anything not snail-like, could prevent plans from growing for a long time. They would adapt to eat any naturally evolving plants, and could overcome protective mechanisms that the plants would develop. However, such a system is not perfect, and it would allow for some plans to exist at any given time. Thus the only downside is that the equilibrium is somewhere in the region of "few plants" and "many many snails".






            share|improve this answer














            Given long enough timescales some lifeforms will exploit your limitations and thrive right on those constraints.



            Not a solution, but a very efficient species of snails, which eat anything not snail-like, could prevent plans from growing for a long time. They would adapt to eat any naturally evolving plants, and could overcome protective mechanisms that the plants would develop. However, such a system is not perfect, and it would allow for some plans to exist at any given time. Thus the only downside is that the equilibrium is somewhere in the region of "few plants" and "many many snails".







            share|improve this answer














            share|improve this answer



            share|improve this answer








            edited Nov 30 at 7:24

























            answered Nov 30 at 0:39









            NofP

            2,903421




            2,903421












            • That's something I hadn't considered, thanks!
              – user57841
              Nov 30 at 7:29






            • 3




              What stops the snails starving to death once they eat all the planets...allowing the plants to recover?
              – Tim B
              Nov 30 at 14:27










            • Plants that mimic snails are also a very real option. Or plants toxic to those snails. Or - you know - good old thorns. Snails are surprisingly resilient to impalement, but they can't eat what they can't reach. Thorns with toxic tips in case of snails that decide whatever's being protected is worth the effort of just chewing through the defenses.
              – John Dvorak
              Nov 30 at 15:08






            • 1




              Make them worms made of silicon with a bizzare lifecycle to keep things interesting. Perhaps have them secrete something toxic in high concentrations that’s immensely valuable because of it’s mystical properties??
              – Joe Bloggs
              Nov 30 at 17:32


















            • That's something I hadn't considered, thanks!
              – user57841
              Nov 30 at 7:29






            • 3




              What stops the snails starving to death once they eat all the planets...allowing the plants to recover?
              – Tim B
              Nov 30 at 14:27










            • Plants that mimic snails are also a very real option. Or plants toxic to those snails. Or - you know - good old thorns. Snails are surprisingly resilient to impalement, but they can't eat what they can't reach. Thorns with toxic tips in case of snails that decide whatever's being protected is worth the effort of just chewing through the defenses.
              – John Dvorak
              Nov 30 at 15:08






            • 1




              Make them worms made of silicon with a bizzare lifecycle to keep things interesting. Perhaps have them secrete something toxic in high concentrations that’s immensely valuable because of it’s mystical properties??
              – Joe Bloggs
              Nov 30 at 17:32
















            That's something I hadn't considered, thanks!
            – user57841
            Nov 30 at 7:29




            That's something I hadn't considered, thanks!
            – user57841
            Nov 30 at 7:29




            3




            3




            What stops the snails starving to death once they eat all the planets...allowing the plants to recover?
            – Tim B
            Nov 30 at 14:27




            What stops the snails starving to death once they eat all the planets...allowing the plants to recover?
            – Tim B
            Nov 30 at 14:27












            Plants that mimic snails are also a very real option. Or plants toxic to those snails. Or - you know - good old thorns. Snails are surprisingly resilient to impalement, but they can't eat what they can't reach. Thorns with toxic tips in case of snails that decide whatever's being protected is worth the effort of just chewing through the defenses.
            – John Dvorak
            Nov 30 at 15:08




            Plants that mimic snails are also a very real option. Or plants toxic to those snails. Or - you know - good old thorns. Snails are surprisingly resilient to impalement, but they can't eat what they can't reach. Thorns with toxic tips in case of snails that decide whatever's being protected is worth the effort of just chewing through the defenses.
            – John Dvorak
            Nov 30 at 15:08




            1




            1




            Make them worms made of silicon with a bizzare lifecycle to keep things interesting. Perhaps have them secrete something toxic in high concentrations that’s immensely valuable because of it’s mystical properties??
            – Joe Bloggs
            Nov 30 at 17:32




            Make them worms made of silicon with a bizzare lifecycle to keep things interesting. Perhaps have them secrete something toxic in high concentrations that’s immensely valuable because of it’s mystical properties??
            – Joe Bloggs
            Nov 30 at 17:32











            5














            Thoughts:




            • Magma, lots of Magma. In essence the "surface" is very thin, perhaps 2-3 metres. There isn't soil, just basalt's and other igneous rocks. The rocks are warm to hot all the time.


            • The planet is solid, no liquid iron belt protecting the planet from radiation. Sure as anything this will kill a planet. Just look at mars.







            share|improve this answer


























              5














              Thoughts:




              • Magma, lots of Magma. In essence the "surface" is very thin, perhaps 2-3 metres. There isn't soil, just basalt's and other igneous rocks. The rocks are warm to hot all the time.


              • The planet is solid, no liquid iron belt protecting the planet from radiation. Sure as anything this will kill a planet. Just look at mars.







              share|improve this answer
























                5












                5








                5






                Thoughts:




                • Magma, lots of Magma. In essence the "surface" is very thin, perhaps 2-3 metres. There isn't soil, just basalt's and other igneous rocks. The rocks are warm to hot all the time.


                • The planet is solid, no liquid iron belt protecting the planet from radiation. Sure as anything this will kill a planet. Just look at mars.







                share|improve this answer












                Thoughts:




                • Magma, lots of Magma. In essence the "surface" is very thin, perhaps 2-3 metres. There isn't soil, just basalt's and other igneous rocks. The rocks are warm to hot all the time.


                • The planet is solid, no liquid iron belt protecting the planet from radiation. Sure as anything this will kill a planet. Just look at mars.








                share|improve this answer












                share|improve this answer



                share|improve this answer










                answered Nov 30 at 5:53









                Kain0_0

                9524




                9524























                    2















                    As title, what condition could prevent plant growth from below a planet surface?




                    Classically plants thrive on a process known as photosynthesis - they use energy from the sun's light in order to convert carbon and water into carbohydrates, and from there they get their energy.



                    Also classically the underground is a dark place that gets no sunlight[citation needed]. That should be enough to keep plants from growin in there.






                    share|improve this answer

















                    • 2




                      I think the question is "what (that is below the surface) could prevent plant growth" and not "what is it that could prevent plants from growing while beneath the surface".
                      – QWriter
                      Nov 30 at 2:14
















                    2















                    As title, what condition could prevent plant growth from below a planet surface?




                    Classically plants thrive on a process known as photosynthesis - they use energy from the sun's light in order to convert carbon and water into carbohydrates, and from there they get their energy.



                    Also classically the underground is a dark place that gets no sunlight[citation needed]. That should be enough to keep plants from growin in there.






                    share|improve this answer

















                    • 2




                      I think the question is "what (that is below the surface) could prevent plant growth" and not "what is it that could prevent plants from growing while beneath the surface".
                      – QWriter
                      Nov 30 at 2:14














                    2












                    2








                    2







                    As title, what condition could prevent plant growth from below a planet surface?




                    Classically plants thrive on a process known as photosynthesis - they use energy from the sun's light in order to convert carbon and water into carbohydrates, and from there they get their energy.



                    Also classically the underground is a dark place that gets no sunlight[citation needed]. That should be enough to keep plants from growin in there.






                    share|improve this answer













                    As title, what condition could prevent plant growth from below a planet surface?




                    Classically plants thrive on a process known as photosynthesis - they use energy from the sun's light in order to convert carbon and water into carbohydrates, and from there they get their energy.



                    Also classically the underground is a dark place that gets no sunlight[citation needed]. That should be enough to keep plants from growin in there.







                    share|improve this answer












                    share|improve this answer



                    share|improve this answer










                    answered Nov 30 at 1:40









                    Renan

                    42.1k1198216




                    42.1k1198216








                    • 2




                      I think the question is "what (that is below the surface) could prevent plant growth" and not "what is it that could prevent plants from growing while beneath the surface".
                      – QWriter
                      Nov 30 at 2:14














                    • 2




                      I think the question is "what (that is below the surface) could prevent plant growth" and not "what is it that could prevent plants from growing while beneath the surface".
                      – QWriter
                      Nov 30 at 2:14








                    2




                    2




                    I think the question is "what (that is below the surface) could prevent plant growth" and not "what is it that could prevent plants from growing while beneath the surface".
                    – QWriter
                    Nov 30 at 2:14




                    I think the question is "what (that is below the surface) could prevent plant growth" and not "what is it that could prevent plants from growing while beneath the surface".
                    – QWriter
                    Nov 30 at 2:14











                    1














                    A simple solution would be to make the soil uninhabitable to organics due to some chemical. If this was intentional, by some advanced species, they could simply place a strong acid or poison in the ground. If this was part of the planet's nature, it could happen by the soil being incredibly acidic, dissolving most organisms before they can develop.






                    share|improve this answer





















                    • Chemical can come from the rocks underneath, or from acid rain. Perhaps volcanic activity could add enough chemicals to atmosphere to make rain deadly.
                      – Bald Bear
                      Nov 30 at 1:02






                    • 3




                      The problem is that Oxygen is a chemical that threatened life. Now just look at the thing. Similarly nitrite, and nitrates are poisonous and life started devouring them. Even indirect chemical poisoning like lignin (basically wood) was becoming a problem by locking up too much carbon, essentially starving all photosynthesis and you now see life happily eating that too. My point is that poisonous is purely about perspective, and easily overcome. The poison would need to be distributed everywhere, very quickly.
                      – Kain0_0
                      Nov 30 at 6:00


















                    1














                    A simple solution would be to make the soil uninhabitable to organics due to some chemical. If this was intentional, by some advanced species, they could simply place a strong acid or poison in the ground. If this was part of the planet's nature, it could happen by the soil being incredibly acidic, dissolving most organisms before they can develop.






                    share|improve this answer





















                    • Chemical can come from the rocks underneath, or from acid rain. Perhaps volcanic activity could add enough chemicals to atmosphere to make rain deadly.
                      – Bald Bear
                      Nov 30 at 1:02






                    • 3




                      The problem is that Oxygen is a chemical that threatened life. Now just look at the thing. Similarly nitrite, and nitrates are poisonous and life started devouring them. Even indirect chemical poisoning like lignin (basically wood) was becoming a problem by locking up too much carbon, essentially starving all photosynthesis and you now see life happily eating that too. My point is that poisonous is purely about perspective, and easily overcome. The poison would need to be distributed everywhere, very quickly.
                      – Kain0_0
                      Nov 30 at 6:00
















                    1












                    1








                    1






                    A simple solution would be to make the soil uninhabitable to organics due to some chemical. If this was intentional, by some advanced species, they could simply place a strong acid or poison in the ground. If this was part of the planet's nature, it could happen by the soil being incredibly acidic, dissolving most organisms before they can develop.






                    share|improve this answer












                    A simple solution would be to make the soil uninhabitable to organics due to some chemical. If this was intentional, by some advanced species, they could simply place a strong acid or poison in the ground. If this was part of the planet's nature, it could happen by the soil being incredibly acidic, dissolving most organisms before they can develop.







                    share|improve this answer












                    share|improve this answer



                    share|improve this answer










                    answered Nov 30 at 0:29









                    snuggles08

                    213




                    213












                    • Chemical can come from the rocks underneath, or from acid rain. Perhaps volcanic activity could add enough chemicals to atmosphere to make rain deadly.
                      – Bald Bear
                      Nov 30 at 1:02






                    • 3




                      The problem is that Oxygen is a chemical that threatened life. Now just look at the thing. Similarly nitrite, and nitrates are poisonous and life started devouring them. Even indirect chemical poisoning like lignin (basically wood) was becoming a problem by locking up too much carbon, essentially starving all photosynthesis and you now see life happily eating that too. My point is that poisonous is purely about perspective, and easily overcome. The poison would need to be distributed everywhere, very quickly.
                      – Kain0_0
                      Nov 30 at 6:00




















                    • Chemical can come from the rocks underneath, or from acid rain. Perhaps volcanic activity could add enough chemicals to atmosphere to make rain deadly.
                      – Bald Bear
                      Nov 30 at 1:02






                    • 3




                      The problem is that Oxygen is a chemical that threatened life. Now just look at the thing. Similarly nitrite, and nitrates are poisonous and life started devouring them. Even indirect chemical poisoning like lignin (basically wood) was becoming a problem by locking up too much carbon, essentially starving all photosynthesis and you now see life happily eating that too. My point is that poisonous is purely about perspective, and easily overcome. The poison would need to be distributed everywhere, very quickly.
                      – Kain0_0
                      Nov 30 at 6:00


















                    Chemical can come from the rocks underneath, or from acid rain. Perhaps volcanic activity could add enough chemicals to atmosphere to make rain deadly.
                    – Bald Bear
                    Nov 30 at 1:02




                    Chemical can come from the rocks underneath, or from acid rain. Perhaps volcanic activity could add enough chemicals to atmosphere to make rain deadly.
                    – Bald Bear
                    Nov 30 at 1:02




                    3




                    3




                    The problem is that Oxygen is a chemical that threatened life. Now just look at the thing. Similarly nitrite, and nitrates are poisonous and life started devouring them. Even indirect chemical poisoning like lignin (basically wood) was becoming a problem by locking up too much carbon, essentially starving all photosynthesis and you now see life happily eating that too. My point is that poisonous is purely about perspective, and easily overcome. The poison would need to be distributed everywhere, very quickly.
                    – Kain0_0
                    Nov 30 at 6:00






                    The problem is that Oxygen is a chemical that threatened life. Now just look at the thing. Similarly nitrite, and nitrates are poisonous and life started devouring them. Even indirect chemical poisoning like lignin (basically wood) was becoming a problem by locking up too much carbon, essentially starving all photosynthesis and you now see life happily eating that too. My point is that poisonous is purely about perspective, and easily overcome. The poison would need to be distributed everywhere, very quickly.
                    – Kain0_0
                    Nov 30 at 6:00













                    0














                    Perhaps there isn't enough topsoil to support the growth of new plant life. This was an issue on our own planet after the end of the ice age, as moving glaciers scoured large areas as they melted in areas such as northern Canada, removing the topsoil that had existed there previously. Other examples of topsoil-removing events include high winds, abnormally heavy rainfall, and exposure to intense heat and/or radiation. So long as an event such as this occurs at a regular interval, substantial plant life should be unable to grow.






                    share|improve this answer


























                      0














                      Perhaps there isn't enough topsoil to support the growth of new plant life. This was an issue on our own planet after the end of the ice age, as moving glaciers scoured large areas as they melted in areas such as northern Canada, removing the topsoil that had existed there previously. Other examples of topsoil-removing events include high winds, abnormally heavy rainfall, and exposure to intense heat and/or radiation. So long as an event such as this occurs at a regular interval, substantial plant life should be unable to grow.






                      share|improve this answer
























                        0












                        0








                        0






                        Perhaps there isn't enough topsoil to support the growth of new plant life. This was an issue on our own planet after the end of the ice age, as moving glaciers scoured large areas as they melted in areas such as northern Canada, removing the topsoil that had existed there previously. Other examples of topsoil-removing events include high winds, abnormally heavy rainfall, and exposure to intense heat and/or radiation. So long as an event such as this occurs at a regular interval, substantial plant life should be unable to grow.






                        share|improve this answer












                        Perhaps there isn't enough topsoil to support the growth of new plant life. This was an issue on our own planet after the end of the ice age, as moving glaciers scoured large areas as they melted in areas such as northern Canada, removing the topsoil that had existed there previously. Other examples of topsoil-removing events include high winds, abnormally heavy rainfall, and exposure to intense heat and/or radiation. So long as an event such as this occurs at a regular interval, substantial plant life should be unable to grow.







                        share|improve this answer












                        share|improve this answer



                        share|improve this answer










                        answered Nov 30 at 0:37









                        Bewilderer

                        960111




                        960111























                            0














                            If the soil contains (for whatever reason) no magnesium, then any life that existed couldn't make chlorophyll as we know it, which means no plants.



                            You could also try some kind of other organism that out-competes the plants, like a soil microbe that uses up resources instead of making them available.



                            An occasional catastrophic rad-blast would also do the trick.






                            share|improve this answer


























                              0














                              If the soil contains (for whatever reason) no magnesium, then any life that existed couldn't make chlorophyll as we know it, which means no plants.



                              You could also try some kind of other organism that out-competes the plants, like a soil microbe that uses up resources instead of making them available.



                              An occasional catastrophic rad-blast would also do the trick.






                              share|improve this answer
























                                0












                                0








                                0






                                If the soil contains (for whatever reason) no magnesium, then any life that existed couldn't make chlorophyll as we know it, which means no plants.



                                You could also try some kind of other organism that out-competes the plants, like a soil microbe that uses up resources instead of making them available.



                                An occasional catastrophic rad-blast would also do the trick.






                                share|improve this answer












                                If the soil contains (for whatever reason) no magnesium, then any life that existed couldn't make chlorophyll as we know it, which means no plants.



                                You could also try some kind of other organism that out-competes the plants, like a soil microbe that uses up resources instead of making them available.



                                An occasional catastrophic rad-blast would also do the trick.







                                share|improve this answer












                                share|improve this answer



                                share|improve this answer










                                answered Nov 30 at 6:00









                                G. B. Robinson

                                1517




                                1517























                                    0














                                    A combination of a couple of other answers: A toxin that actually binds the nutrients required, preventing any plant from taking them up and using them. (This is how some herbicides work today.)



                                    This would likely affect certain non-plants, as well (microbes, fungus, etc.).
                                    Or, perhaps a microbe secretes the toxin so it can monopolize the nutrients. You could develop a nasty "invasive species" story from that.






                                    share|improve this answer


























                                      0














                                      A combination of a couple of other answers: A toxin that actually binds the nutrients required, preventing any plant from taking them up and using them. (This is how some herbicides work today.)



                                      This would likely affect certain non-plants, as well (microbes, fungus, etc.).
                                      Or, perhaps a microbe secretes the toxin so it can monopolize the nutrients. You could develop a nasty "invasive species" story from that.






                                      share|improve this answer
























                                        0












                                        0








                                        0






                                        A combination of a couple of other answers: A toxin that actually binds the nutrients required, preventing any plant from taking them up and using them. (This is how some herbicides work today.)



                                        This would likely affect certain non-plants, as well (microbes, fungus, etc.).
                                        Or, perhaps a microbe secretes the toxin so it can monopolize the nutrients. You could develop a nasty "invasive species" story from that.






                                        share|improve this answer












                                        A combination of a couple of other answers: A toxin that actually binds the nutrients required, preventing any plant from taking them up and using them. (This is how some herbicides work today.)



                                        This would likely affect certain non-plants, as well (microbes, fungus, etc.).
                                        Or, perhaps a microbe secretes the toxin so it can monopolize the nutrients. You could develop a nasty "invasive species" story from that.







                                        share|improve this answer












                                        share|improve this answer



                                        share|improve this answer










                                        answered Nov 30 at 13:51









                                        GWB

                                        412




                                        412























                                            0














                                            Soil Depletion1



                                            Soil fertility depends on several factors. Changing one or more of these can inhibit that fertility:




                                            • Sufficient soil depth for root growth and water retention.

                                            • Good drainage

                                            • Topsoil with proper organic matter

                                            • Soil pH between 5.5 and 7.0

                                            • Adequate concentrations of essential plant nutrients

                                            • Presence of a range of microorganisms.


                                            Disrupt any one or more variables in the above balance and your soil won't support life. For example, if some event (chemical warfare, etc.) destroys all the microbial life, then your soil won't support plants. Or make the soil acidic or basic and plants cannot grow.



                                            Robert Heinlein touches on this briefly in "Farmer in the Sky". As part of their efforts to terraform Ganymede involves bringing microbial life to the moon to support plant growth (it's a minor point and not one of the major plot points at all, but the narrator talks to one of the older colonists who mentions that he has the best microbes).






                                            share|improve this answer


























                                              0














                                              Soil Depletion1



                                              Soil fertility depends on several factors. Changing one or more of these can inhibit that fertility:




                                              • Sufficient soil depth for root growth and water retention.

                                              • Good drainage

                                              • Topsoil with proper organic matter

                                              • Soil pH between 5.5 and 7.0

                                              • Adequate concentrations of essential plant nutrients

                                              • Presence of a range of microorganisms.


                                              Disrupt any one or more variables in the above balance and your soil won't support life. For example, if some event (chemical warfare, etc.) destroys all the microbial life, then your soil won't support plants. Or make the soil acidic or basic and plants cannot grow.



                                              Robert Heinlein touches on this briefly in "Farmer in the Sky". As part of their efforts to terraform Ganymede involves bringing microbial life to the moon to support plant growth (it's a minor point and not one of the major plot points at all, but the narrator talks to one of the older colonists who mentions that he has the best microbes).






                                              share|improve this answer
























                                                0












                                                0








                                                0






                                                Soil Depletion1



                                                Soil fertility depends on several factors. Changing one or more of these can inhibit that fertility:




                                                • Sufficient soil depth for root growth and water retention.

                                                • Good drainage

                                                • Topsoil with proper organic matter

                                                • Soil pH between 5.5 and 7.0

                                                • Adequate concentrations of essential plant nutrients

                                                • Presence of a range of microorganisms.


                                                Disrupt any one or more variables in the above balance and your soil won't support life. For example, if some event (chemical warfare, etc.) destroys all the microbial life, then your soil won't support plants. Or make the soil acidic or basic and plants cannot grow.



                                                Robert Heinlein touches on this briefly in "Farmer in the Sky". As part of their efforts to terraform Ganymede involves bringing microbial life to the moon to support plant growth (it's a minor point and not one of the major plot points at all, but the narrator talks to one of the older colonists who mentions that he has the best microbes).






                                                share|improve this answer












                                                Soil Depletion1



                                                Soil fertility depends on several factors. Changing one or more of these can inhibit that fertility:




                                                • Sufficient soil depth for root growth and water retention.

                                                • Good drainage

                                                • Topsoil with proper organic matter

                                                • Soil pH between 5.5 and 7.0

                                                • Adequate concentrations of essential plant nutrients

                                                • Presence of a range of microorganisms.


                                                Disrupt any one or more variables in the above balance and your soil won't support life. For example, if some event (chemical warfare, etc.) destroys all the microbial life, then your soil won't support plants. Or make the soil acidic or basic and plants cannot grow.



                                                Robert Heinlein touches on this briefly in "Farmer in the Sky". As part of their efforts to terraform Ganymede involves bringing microbial life to the moon to support plant growth (it's a minor point and not one of the major plot points at all, but the narrator talks to one of the older colonists who mentions that he has the best microbes).







                                                share|improve this answer












                                                share|improve this answer



                                                share|improve this answer










                                                answered Nov 30 at 15:45









                                                CaM

                                                11.7k2761




                                                11.7k2761






























                                                    draft saved

                                                    draft discarded




















































                                                    Thanks for contributing an answer to Worldbuilding Stack Exchange!


                                                    • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

                                                    But avoid



                                                    • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

                                                    • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


                                                    Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


                                                    To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.





                                                    Some of your past answers have not been well-received, and you're in danger of being blocked from answering.


                                                    Please pay close attention to the following guidance:


                                                    • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

                                                    But avoid



                                                    • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

                                                    • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


                                                    To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




                                                    draft saved


                                                    draft discarded














                                                    StackExchange.ready(
                                                    function () {
                                                    StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fworldbuilding.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f131606%2funderground-condition-preventing-plant-growth-on-a-planet%23new-answer', 'question_page');
                                                    }
                                                    );

                                                    Post as a guest















                                                    Required, but never shown





















































                                                    Required, but never shown














                                                    Required, but never shown












                                                    Required, but never shown







                                                    Required, but never shown

































                                                    Required, but never shown














                                                    Required, but never shown












                                                    Required, but never shown







                                                    Required, but never shown







                                                    Popular posts from this blog

                                                    Сан-Квентин

                                                    8-я гвардейская общевойсковая армия

                                                    Алькесар