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It is well known that Vedanta Sutras prohibit Shudras from Jnana by saying Smritis prohibit them from having Upanayana. But Bhagavad Gita is a book which contains Vedantic statements. As Vedanta Sutras prohibit Shudras from acquiring Vedanta knowledge, can't they read the Bhagavad Gita?










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  • Bhagavad Gita is basically the summary of the 4 Vedas along with being the glory of Krishna. So I think they can not
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    Dec 15 at 4:54






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    Mahabharata can be read by anyone. Bhagavad Gita is a part of Mahabharata and hence it is open for all.
    – hanugm
    Dec 15 at 4:56










  • Bhagavad Gita is a knowledge for all to realize their spiritual nature. No classification or restriction is there for Bhagavad Gita!
    – Akshay S
    Dec 15 at 5:38










  • Akshay already answered.
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    Dec 15 at 6:33
















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It is well known that Vedanta Sutras prohibit Shudras from Jnana by saying Smritis prohibit them from having Upanayana. But Bhagavad Gita is a book which contains Vedantic statements. As Vedanta Sutras prohibit Shudras from acquiring Vedanta knowledge, can't they read the Bhagavad Gita?










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  • Bhagavad Gita is basically the summary of the 4 Vedas along with being the glory of Krishna. So I think they can not
    – Gabriel Alexander Gonzalez Agu
    Dec 15 at 4:54






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    Mahabharata can be read by anyone. Bhagavad Gita is a part of Mahabharata and hence it is open for all.
    – hanugm
    Dec 15 at 4:56










  • Bhagavad Gita is a knowledge for all to realize their spiritual nature. No classification or restriction is there for Bhagavad Gita!
    – Akshay S
    Dec 15 at 5:38










  • Akshay already answered.
    – Love Sharma
    Dec 15 at 6:33














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It is well known that Vedanta Sutras prohibit Shudras from Jnana by saying Smritis prohibit them from having Upanayana. But Bhagavad Gita is a book which contains Vedantic statements. As Vedanta Sutras prohibit Shudras from acquiring Vedanta knowledge, can't they read the Bhagavad Gita?










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It is well known that Vedanta Sutras prohibit Shudras from Jnana by saying Smritis prohibit them from having Upanayana. But Bhagavad Gita is a book which contains Vedantic statements. As Vedanta Sutras prohibit Shudras from acquiring Vedanta knowledge, can't they read the Bhagavad Gita?







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  • Bhagavad Gita is basically the summary of the 4 Vedas along with being the glory of Krishna. So I think they can not
    – Gabriel Alexander Gonzalez Agu
    Dec 15 at 4:54






  • 1




    Mahabharata can be read by anyone. Bhagavad Gita is a part of Mahabharata and hence it is open for all.
    – hanugm
    Dec 15 at 4:56










  • Bhagavad Gita is a knowledge for all to realize their spiritual nature. No classification or restriction is there for Bhagavad Gita!
    – Akshay S
    Dec 15 at 5:38










  • Akshay already answered.
    – Love Sharma
    Dec 15 at 6:33


















  • Bhagavad Gita is basically the summary of the 4 Vedas along with being the glory of Krishna. So I think they can not
    – Gabriel Alexander Gonzalez Agu
    Dec 15 at 4:54






  • 1




    Mahabharata can be read by anyone. Bhagavad Gita is a part of Mahabharata and hence it is open for all.
    – hanugm
    Dec 15 at 4:56










  • Bhagavad Gita is a knowledge for all to realize their spiritual nature. No classification or restriction is there for Bhagavad Gita!
    – Akshay S
    Dec 15 at 5:38










  • Akshay already answered.
    – Love Sharma
    Dec 15 at 6:33
















Bhagavad Gita is basically the summary of the 4 Vedas along with being the glory of Krishna. So I think they can not
– Gabriel Alexander Gonzalez Agu
Dec 15 at 4:54




Bhagavad Gita is basically the summary of the 4 Vedas along with being the glory of Krishna. So I think they can not
– Gabriel Alexander Gonzalez Agu
Dec 15 at 4:54




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Mahabharata can be read by anyone. Bhagavad Gita is a part of Mahabharata and hence it is open for all.
– hanugm
Dec 15 at 4:56




Mahabharata can be read by anyone. Bhagavad Gita is a part of Mahabharata and hence it is open for all.
– hanugm
Dec 15 at 4:56












Bhagavad Gita is a knowledge for all to realize their spiritual nature. No classification or restriction is there for Bhagavad Gita!
– Akshay S
Dec 15 at 5:38




Bhagavad Gita is a knowledge for all to realize their spiritual nature. No classification or restriction is there for Bhagavad Gita!
– Akshay S
Dec 15 at 5:38












Akshay already answered.
– Love Sharma
Dec 15 at 6:33




Akshay already answered.
– Love Sharma
Dec 15 at 6:33










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There are no specific restrictions for reading and understanding Bhagavad Gita based on castes, differentiation apart from two cases, where Krishna himself emphasizes on to whom this Gita knowledge should not be spoken and to whom this knowledge shall be revealed




BG 18.67: This instruction should never be explained to those who are not austere or to those who are not devoted. It should also not be spoken to those who are averse to listening (to spiritual topics), and especially not to those who are envious of me.



BG 18.68: Those, who teach this most confidential knowledge amongst my devotees, perform the greatest act of love. They will come to me without doubt.




Thus, from these verses, it is clear that, those who teach his Gita knowledge to his devotees, certainly reaches Krishna's abode which he himself declares and also the fact that, Sri Krishna makes it clear that this knowledge should not be explained to non-devotees, and non-believers of supreme because they may become envious of Krishna and misunderstand the teachings of Gita and think Krishna proudly spoke of himself and wanted Arjuna to praise him always as he used many times "I". So real meaning and teachings of Gita wont go into minds of non devotees.






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    Then why Vedanta is banned for Shudras? If a Shudra can read the Bhagavad Gita, he can also learn Vedanta, since bhagavad Gita itself a summary of Upanishads.
    – Naveen Kick
    Dec 15 at 6:36










  • Where is it written that vedanta is not for shudra? And as per you who is shudras?
    – Love Sharma
    Dec 15 at 6:54










  • @NaveenKick Because reading summary and reading the original is not the same. It was condensed into easy form as Bhagavad Gita.
    – Sarvabhouma
    Dec 15 at 8:04










  • @Sarvabhouma You are correct
    – Naveen Kick
    Dec 15 at 15:38










  • @LoveSharma Have a look at here. wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/brahma-sutras/d/doc62931.html Shudra is a person who belongs to fourth Varna, as the Smritis say.
    – Naveen Kick
    Dec 15 at 15:39



















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If for Mahabharata (of which Gita is a part) it is said that it can be recited by everyone then "Yes" will be the answer. But have a look at the following verses from Vyasa Smriti:




Brahmanas, Kshatriyas, and Vaishyas are called the twice-born. Their
first births take place when they are delivered of their mother's womb
; their second, when they duly accept the Gayatri Mantra from their
preceptors (21).



Thus made twice-born, and free from all other faults, they become entitled to study the Vedas, Smritis and Puranas (22).




According to 22, it's the Vedic initiation that makes one qualified to read even the Smritis and the Puranas. So, we can assume that similar requirements might be there for reading the Itihasas too. Because, Itihasa-Purana are always mentioned in tandem.



Also, note that this is somewhat an indirect approach, as ideally one should see what Mahabharata itself( or Gita) has to say on the topic.






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    Mahabharata is composed by Vyasadeva so that all classes of people will benefit be it sudras, fallen brahmanas etc.. So they can definitely read Bhagavad Gita which is a part of Mahabharata.




    strī-śūdra-dvijabandhūnāṁ trayī na śruti-gocarā karma-śreyasi mūḍhānāṁ
    śreya evaṁ bhaved iha iti bhāratam ākhyānaṁ kṛpayā muninā kṛtam



    SB 1.4.25: Out of compassion, the great sage thought it wise that
    this would enable men to achieve the ultimate goal of life. Thus he
    compiled the great historical narration called the Mahabharata for
    women, laborers and friends of the twice-born.







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      There are no specific restrictions for reading and understanding Bhagavad Gita based on castes, differentiation apart from two cases, where Krishna himself emphasizes on to whom this Gita knowledge should not be spoken and to whom this knowledge shall be revealed




      BG 18.67: This instruction should never be explained to those who are not austere or to those who are not devoted. It should also not be spoken to those who are averse to listening (to spiritual topics), and especially not to those who are envious of me.



      BG 18.68: Those, who teach this most confidential knowledge amongst my devotees, perform the greatest act of love. They will come to me without doubt.




      Thus, from these verses, it is clear that, those who teach his Gita knowledge to his devotees, certainly reaches Krishna's abode which he himself declares and also the fact that, Sri Krishna makes it clear that this knowledge should not be explained to non-devotees, and non-believers of supreme because they may become envious of Krishna and misunderstand the teachings of Gita and think Krishna proudly spoke of himself and wanted Arjuna to praise him always as he used many times "I". So real meaning and teachings of Gita wont go into minds of non devotees.






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        Then why Vedanta is banned for Shudras? If a Shudra can read the Bhagavad Gita, he can also learn Vedanta, since bhagavad Gita itself a summary of Upanishads.
        – Naveen Kick
        Dec 15 at 6:36










      • Where is it written that vedanta is not for shudra? And as per you who is shudras?
        – Love Sharma
        Dec 15 at 6:54










      • @NaveenKick Because reading summary and reading the original is not the same. It was condensed into easy form as Bhagavad Gita.
        – Sarvabhouma
        Dec 15 at 8:04










      • @Sarvabhouma You are correct
        – Naveen Kick
        Dec 15 at 15:38










      • @LoveSharma Have a look at here. wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/brahma-sutras/d/doc62931.html Shudra is a person who belongs to fourth Varna, as the Smritis say.
        – Naveen Kick
        Dec 15 at 15:39
















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      There are no specific restrictions for reading and understanding Bhagavad Gita based on castes, differentiation apart from two cases, where Krishna himself emphasizes on to whom this Gita knowledge should not be spoken and to whom this knowledge shall be revealed




      BG 18.67: This instruction should never be explained to those who are not austere or to those who are not devoted. It should also not be spoken to those who are averse to listening (to spiritual topics), and especially not to those who are envious of me.



      BG 18.68: Those, who teach this most confidential knowledge amongst my devotees, perform the greatest act of love. They will come to me without doubt.




      Thus, from these verses, it is clear that, those who teach his Gita knowledge to his devotees, certainly reaches Krishna's abode which he himself declares and also the fact that, Sri Krishna makes it clear that this knowledge should not be explained to non-devotees, and non-believers of supreme because they may become envious of Krishna and misunderstand the teachings of Gita and think Krishna proudly spoke of himself and wanted Arjuna to praise him always as he used many times "I". So real meaning and teachings of Gita wont go into minds of non devotees.






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        Then why Vedanta is banned for Shudras? If a Shudra can read the Bhagavad Gita, he can also learn Vedanta, since bhagavad Gita itself a summary of Upanishads.
        – Naveen Kick
        Dec 15 at 6:36










      • Where is it written that vedanta is not for shudra? And as per you who is shudras?
        – Love Sharma
        Dec 15 at 6:54










      • @NaveenKick Because reading summary and reading the original is not the same. It was condensed into easy form as Bhagavad Gita.
        – Sarvabhouma
        Dec 15 at 8:04










      • @Sarvabhouma You are correct
        – Naveen Kick
        Dec 15 at 15:38










      • @LoveSharma Have a look at here. wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/brahma-sutras/d/doc62931.html Shudra is a person who belongs to fourth Varna, as the Smritis say.
        – Naveen Kick
        Dec 15 at 15:39














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      There are no specific restrictions for reading and understanding Bhagavad Gita based on castes, differentiation apart from two cases, where Krishna himself emphasizes on to whom this Gita knowledge should not be spoken and to whom this knowledge shall be revealed




      BG 18.67: This instruction should never be explained to those who are not austere or to those who are not devoted. It should also not be spoken to those who are averse to listening (to spiritual topics), and especially not to those who are envious of me.



      BG 18.68: Those, who teach this most confidential knowledge amongst my devotees, perform the greatest act of love. They will come to me without doubt.




      Thus, from these verses, it is clear that, those who teach his Gita knowledge to his devotees, certainly reaches Krishna's abode which he himself declares and also the fact that, Sri Krishna makes it clear that this knowledge should not be explained to non-devotees, and non-believers of supreme because they may become envious of Krishna and misunderstand the teachings of Gita and think Krishna proudly spoke of himself and wanted Arjuna to praise him always as he used many times "I". So real meaning and teachings of Gita wont go into minds of non devotees.






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      There are no specific restrictions for reading and understanding Bhagavad Gita based on castes, differentiation apart from two cases, where Krishna himself emphasizes on to whom this Gita knowledge should not be spoken and to whom this knowledge shall be revealed




      BG 18.67: This instruction should never be explained to those who are not austere or to those who are not devoted. It should also not be spoken to those who are averse to listening (to spiritual topics), and especially not to those who are envious of me.



      BG 18.68: Those, who teach this most confidential knowledge amongst my devotees, perform the greatest act of love. They will come to me without doubt.




      Thus, from these verses, it is clear that, those who teach his Gita knowledge to his devotees, certainly reaches Krishna's abode which he himself declares and also the fact that, Sri Krishna makes it clear that this knowledge should not be explained to non-devotees, and non-believers of supreme because they may become envious of Krishna and misunderstand the teachings of Gita and think Krishna proudly spoke of himself and wanted Arjuna to praise him always as he used many times "I". So real meaning and teachings of Gita wont go into minds of non devotees.







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        Then why Vedanta is banned for Shudras? If a Shudra can read the Bhagavad Gita, he can also learn Vedanta, since bhagavad Gita itself a summary of Upanishads.
        – Naveen Kick
        Dec 15 at 6:36










      • Where is it written that vedanta is not for shudra? And as per you who is shudras?
        – Love Sharma
        Dec 15 at 6:54










      • @NaveenKick Because reading summary and reading the original is not the same. It was condensed into easy form as Bhagavad Gita.
        – Sarvabhouma
        Dec 15 at 8:04










      • @Sarvabhouma You are correct
        – Naveen Kick
        Dec 15 at 15:38










      • @LoveSharma Have a look at here. wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/brahma-sutras/d/doc62931.html Shudra is a person who belongs to fourth Varna, as the Smritis say.
        – Naveen Kick
        Dec 15 at 15:39














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        Then why Vedanta is banned for Shudras? If a Shudra can read the Bhagavad Gita, he can also learn Vedanta, since bhagavad Gita itself a summary of Upanishads.
        – Naveen Kick
        Dec 15 at 6:36










      • Where is it written that vedanta is not for shudra? And as per you who is shudras?
        – Love Sharma
        Dec 15 at 6:54










      • @NaveenKick Because reading summary and reading the original is not the same. It was condensed into easy form as Bhagavad Gita.
        – Sarvabhouma
        Dec 15 at 8:04










      • @Sarvabhouma You are correct
        – Naveen Kick
        Dec 15 at 15:38










      • @LoveSharma Have a look at here. wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/brahma-sutras/d/doc62931.html Shudra is a person who belongs to fourth Varna, as the Smritis say.
        – Naveen Kick
        Dec 15 at 15:39








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      Then why Vedanta is banned for Shudras? If a Shudra can read the Bhagavad Gita, he can also learn Vedanta, since bhagavad Gita itself a summary of Upanishads.
      – Naveen Kick
      Dec 15 at 6:36




      Then why Vedanta is banned for Shudras? If a Shudra can read the Bhagavad Gita, he can also learn Vedanta, since bhagavad Gita itself a summary of Upanishads.
      – Naveen Kick
      Dec 15 at 6:36












      Where is it written that vedanta is not for shudra? And as per you who is shudras?
      – Love Sharma
      Dec 15 at 6:54




      Where is it written that vedanta is not for shudra? And as per you who is shudras?
      – Love Sharma
      Dec 15 at 6:54












      @NaveenKick Because reading summary and reading the original is not the same. It was condensed into easy form as Bhagavad Gita.
      – Sarvabhouma
      Dec 15 at 8:04




      @NaveenKick Because reading summary and reading the original is not the same. It was condensed into easy form as Bhagavad Gita.
      – Sarvabhouma
      Dec 15 at 8:04












      @Sarvabhouma You are correct
      – Naveen Kick
      Dec 15 at 15:38




      @Sarvabhouma You are correct
      – Naveen Kick
      Dec 15 at 15:38












      @LoveSharma Have a look at here. wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/brahma-sutras/d/doc62931.html Shudra is a person who belongs to fourth Varna, as the Smritis say.
      – Naveen Kick
      Dec 15 at 15:39




      @LoveSharma Have a look at here. wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/brahma-sutras/d/doc62931.html Shudra is a person who belongs to fourth Varna, as the Smritis say.
      – Naveen Kick
      Dec 15 at 15:39











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      If for Mahabharata (of which Gita is a part) it is said that it can be recited by everyone then "Yes" will be the answer. But have a look at the following verses from Vyasa Smriti:




      Brahmanas, Kshatriyas, and Vaishyas are called the twice-born. Their
      first births take place when they are delivered of their mother's womb
      ; their second, when they duly accept the Gayatri Mantra from their
      preceptors (21).



      Thus made twice-born, and free from all other faults, they become entitled to study the Vedas, Smritis and Puranas (22).




      According to 22, it's the Vedic initiation that makes one qualified to read even the Smritis and the Puranas. So, we can assume that similar requirements might be there for reading the Itihasas too. Because, Itihasa-Purana are always mentioned in tandem.



      Also, note that this is somewhat an indirect approach, as ideally one should see what Mahabharata itself( or Gita) has to say on the topic.






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        If for Mahabharata (of which Gita is a part) it is said that it can be recited by everyone then "Yes" will be the answer. But have a look at the following verses from Vyasa Smriti:




        Brahmanas, Kshatriyas, and Vaishyas are called the twice-born. Their
        first births take place when they are delivered of their mother's womb
        ; their second, when they duly accept the Gayatri Mantra from their
        preceptors (21).



        Thus made twice-born, and free from all other faults, they become entitled to study the Vedas, Smritis and Puranas (22).




        According to 22, it's the Vedic initiation that makes one qualified to read even the Smritis and the Puranas. So, we can assume that similar requirements might be there for reading the Itihasas too. Because, Itihasa-Purana are always mentioned in tandem.



        Also, note that this is somewhat an indirect approach, as ideally one should see what Mahabharata itself( or Gita) has to say on the topic.






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          If for Mahabharata (of which Gita is a part) it is said that it can be recited by everyone then "Yes" will be the answer. But have a look at the following verses from Vyasa Smriti:




          Brahmanas, Kshatriyas, and Vaishyas are called the twice-born. Their
          first births take place when they are delivered of their mother's womb
          ; their second, when they duly accept the Gayatri Mantra from their
          preceptors (21).



          Thus made twice-born, and free from all other faults, they become entitled to study the Vedas, Smritis and Puranas (22).




          According to 22, it's the Vedic initiation that makes one qualified to read even the Smritis and the Puranas. So, we can assume that similar requirements might be there for reading the Itihasas too. Because, Itihasa-Purana are always mentioned in tandem.



          Also, note that this is somewhat an indirect approach, as ideally one should see what Mahabharata itself( or Gita) has to say on the topic.






          share|improve this answer












          If for Mahabharata (of which Gita is a part) it is said that it can be recited by everyone then "Yes" will be the answer. But have a look at the following verses from Vyasa Smriti:




          Brahmanas, Kshatriyas, and Vaishyas are called the twice-born. Their
          first births take place when they are delivered of their mother's womb
          ; their second, when they duly accept the Gayatri Mantra from their
          preceptors (21).



          Thus made twice-born, and free from all other faults, they become entitled to study the Vedas, Smritis and Puranas (22).




          According to 22, it's the Vedic initiation that makes one qualified to read even the Smritis and the Puranas. So, we can assume that similar requirements might be there for reading the Itihasas too. Because, Itihasa-Purana are always mentioned in tandem.



          Also, note that this is somewhat an indirect approach, as ideally one should see what Mahabharata itself( or Gita) has to say on the topic.







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              Mahabharata is composed by Vyasadeva so that all classes of people will benefit be it sudras, fallen brahmanas etc.. So they can definitely read Bhagavad Gita which is a part of Mahabharata.




              strī-śūdra-dvijabandhūnāṁ trayī na śruti-gocarā karma-śreyasi mūḍhānāṁ
              śreya evaṁ bhaved iha iti bhāratam ākhyānaṁ kṛpayā muninā kṛtam



              SB 1.4.25: Out of compassion, the great sage thought it wise that
              this would enable men to achieve the ultimate goal of life. Thus he
              compiled the great historical narration called the Mahabharata for
              women, laborers and friends of the twice-born.







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                Mahabharata is composed by Vyasadeva so that all classes of people will benefit be it sudras, fallen brahmanas etc.. So they can definitely read Bhagavad Gita which is a part of Mahabharata.




                strī-śūdra-dvijabandhūnāṁ trayī na śruti-gocarā karma-śreyasi mūḍhānāṁ
                śreya evaṁ bhaved iha iti bhāratam ākhyānaṁ kṛpayā muninā kṛtam



                SB 1.4.25: Out of compassion, the great sage thought it wise that
                this would enable men to achieve the ultimate goal of life. Thus he
                compiled the great historical narration called the Mahabharata for
                women, laborers and friends of the twice-born.







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                  Mahabharata is composed by Vyasadeva so that all classes of people will benefit be it sudras, fallen brahmanas etc.. So they can definitely read Bhagavad Gita which is a part of Mahabharata.




                  strī-śūdra-dvijabandhūnāṁ trayī na śruti-gocarā karma-śreyasi mūḍhānāṁ
                  śreya evaṁ bhaved iha iti bhāratam ākhyānaṁ kṛpayā muninā kṛtam



                  SB 1.4.25: Out of compassion, the great sage thought it wise that
                  this would enable men to achieve the ultimate goal of life. Thus he
                  compiled the great historical narration called the Mahabharata for
                  women, laborers and friends of the twice-born.







                  share|improve this answer












                  Mahabharata is composed by Vyasadeva so that all classes of people will benefit be it sudras, fallen brahmanas etc.. So they can definitely read Bhagavad Gita which is a part of Mahabharata.




                  strī-śūdra-dvijabandhūnāṁ trayī na śruti-gocarā karma-śreyasi mūḍhānāṁ
                  śreya evaṁ bhaved iha iti bhāratam ākhyānaṁ kṛpayā muninā kṛtam



                  SB 1.4.25: Out of compassion, the great sage thought it wise that
                  this would enable men to achieve the ultimate goal of life. Thus he
                  compiled the great historical narration called the Mahabharata for
                  women, laborers and friends of the twice-born.








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