C'è with multiple conjoined nouns?
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I came across this piece of lyrics from a song called "Laura non c'è", and could not decipher it:
Non vorrei che tu fossi un'emergenza
Ma tra bene ed amore c'è
Solo Laura e la mia coscienza
The lyrics may be inaccurate, but I am not sure what c'è in the second line is doing. Could it be correct? If so, what is it referring to?
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I came across this piece of lyrics from a song called "Laura non c'è", and could not decipher it:
Non vorrei che tu fossi un'emergenza
Ma tra bene ed amore c'è
Solo Laura e la mia coscienza
The lyrics may be inaccurate, but I am not sure what c'è in the second line is doing. Could it be correct? If so, what is it referring to?
verbs agreement grammatical-analysis
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The second and the third line are linked together and it works if you read them as an unique sentence.
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I came across this piece of lyrics from a song called "Laura non c'è", and could not decipher it:
Non vorrei che tu fossi un'emergenza
Ma tra bene ed amore c'è
Solo Laura e la mia coscienza
The lyrics may be inaccurate, but I am not sure what c'è in the second line is doing. Could it be correct? If so, what is it referring to?
verbs agreement grammatical-analysis
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I came across this piece of lyrics from a song called "Laura non c'è", and could not decipher it:
Non vorrei che tu fossi un'emergenza
Ma tra bene ed amore c'è
Solo Laura e la mia coscienza
The lyrics may be inaccurate, but I am not sure what c'è in the second line is doing. Could it be correct? If so, what is it referring to?
verbs agreement grammatical-analysis
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The second and the third line are linked together and it works if you read them as an unique sentence.
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The second and the third line are linked together and it works if you read them as an unique sentence.
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Welcome on ItalianSE!
– abarisone
Nov 13 at 10:57
The second and the third line are linked together and it works if you read them as an unique sentence.
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The second and the third line are linked together and it works if you read them as an unique sentence.
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The second and the third line should be read together in sequence:
Ma tra bene ed amore c'è solo Laura e la mia coscienza
(But between good and love there is only Laura and my conscience)
So c’è refers to Laura which stands (along with my conscience) between good and love, even though, as correctly pointed out by @DaG, the correct form would be ci sono.
answered Nov 13 at 11:04
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I believe the OP's perplexity comes from the fact that it should be “ci sono solo Laura e la mia coscienza”; I'd call it a case of “poetic” licence.
– DaG
Nov 13 at 11:39
Thanks! One question out of interest, though -- Would it make as much sense if it were "ma tra bene ed amore c'è solo i ricordi/gli amici e la mia coscienza"? (Or, would it feel as coherent)
– Rethliopuks
Nov 13 at 15:25
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@Rethliopuks In that case it should be ci sono solo i ricordi because ricordi is plural and the singular becomes too strained even for poetic license (at least in my opinion)
– Denis Nardin♦
Nov 13 at 15:34
@DenisNardin Thanks! One more question, would it feel ok if it were "ma tra bene ed amore c'è solo la mia coscienza ed i ricordi"?
– Rethliopuks
Nov 13 at 15:41
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@Rethliopuks It would feel as ok as the original sentence. That is to say, it is grammatically wrong but you can mask it a bit with the rhythm of the sentence.
– Denis Nardin♦
Nov 13 at 15:45
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Actually I've found another – slightly different – lyrics for the same song here: http://www.angolotesti.it/A/testi_canzoni_antonio_mungari_64702/testo_canzone_laura_non_ce_1111998.html.
In this version, which by the way is what I understood by listening/meaning, the sentence is:
Solo Laura è la mia coscienza
This would mean that this sentence is unlinked to the previous one, and with this logic "c'è" is perfectly correct.
"C'è" can be translated with "there is" with the implied meaning of "there is something". You can consider it as a figure of speech, the implied "something" can (and should) remain untold because love is a very personal thing, therefore there isn't a specific something for everyone, but without any doubt there is something between love and affection.
Ma tra bene ed amore qualcosa c'è
But between good and love there is something
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This song is probably not the best example if you're looking for something grammatically accurate: quoting DaG, I'd consider this "c'è" instead of "ci sono" a "poetic license".
A few lines after you can also read "è strano che al suo posto ci sei te" instead of ci sia tu. I wouldn't try to give a particular reason to these sentences other than having the desired number of syllables and rhymes.
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The second and the third line should be read together in sequence:
Ma tra bene ed amore c'è solo Laura e la mia coscienza
(But between good and love there is only Laura and my conscience)
So c’è refers to Laura which stands (along with my conscience) between good and love, even though, as correctly pointed out by @DaG, the correct form would be ci sono.
answered Nov 13 at 11:04
abarisone
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I believe the OP's perplexity comes from the fact that it should be “ci sono solo Laura e la mia coscienza”; I'd call it a case of “poetic” licence.
– DaG
Nov 13 at 11:39
Thanks! One question out of interest, though -- Would it make as much sense if it were "ma tra bene ed amore c'è solo i ricordi/gli amici e la mia coscienza"? (Or, would it feel as coherent)
– Rethliopuks
Nov 13 at 15:25
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@Rethliopuks In that case it should be ci sono solo i ricordi because ricordi is plural and the singular becomes too strained even for poetic license (at least in my opinion)
– Denis Nardin♦
Nov 13 at 15:34
@DenisNardin Thanks! One more question, would it feel ok if it were "ma tra bene ed amore c'è solo la mia coscienza ed i ricordi"?
– Rethliopuks
Nov 13 at 15:41
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@Rethliopuks It would feel as ok as the original sentence. That is to say, it is grammatically wrong but you can mask it a bit with the rhythm of the sentence.
– Denis Nardin♦
Nov 13 at 15:45
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The second and the third line should be read together in sequence:
Ma tra bene ed amore c'è solo Laura e la mia coscienza
(But between good and love there is only Laura and my conscience)
So c’è refers to Laura which stands (along with my conscience) between good and love, even though, as correctly pointed out by @DaG, the correct form would be ci sono.
answered Nov 13 at 11:04
abarisone
13.4k1935
5
I believe the OP's perplexity comes from the fact that it should be “ci sono solo Laura e la mia coscienza”; I'd call it a case of “poetic” licence.
– DaG
Nov 13 at 11:39
Thanks! One question out of interest, though -- Would it make as much sense if it were "ma tra bene ed amore c'è solo i ricordi/gli amici e la mia coscienza"? (Or, would it feel as coherent)
– Rethliopuks
Nov 13 at 15:25
3
@Rethliopuks In that case it should be ci sono solo i ricordi because ricordi is plural and the singular becomes too strained even for poetic license (at least in my opinion)
– Denis Nardin♦
Nov 13 at 15:34
@DenisNardin Thanks! One more question, would it feel ok if it were "ma tra bene ed amore c'è solo la mia coscienza ed i ricordi"?
– Rethliopuks
Nov 13 at 15:41
1
@Rethliopuks It would feel as ok as the original sentence. That is to say, it is grammatically wrong but you can mask it a bit with the rhythm of the sentence.
– Denis Nardin♦
Nov 13 at 15:45
add a comment |
up vote
6
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up vote
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The second and the third line should be read together in sequence:
Ma tra bene ed amore c'è solo Laura e la mia coscienza
(But between good and love there is only Laura and my conscience)
So c’è refers to Laura which stands (along with my conscience) between good and love, even though, as correctly pointed out by @DaG, the correct form would be ci sono.
answered Nov 13 at 11:04
abarisone
13.4k1935
The second and the third line should be read together in sequence:
Ma tra bene ed amore c'è solo Laura e la mia coscienza
(But between good and love there is only Laura and my conscience)
So c’è refers to Laura which stands (along with my conscience) between good and love, even though, as correctly pointed out by @DaG, the correct form would be ci sono.
answered Nov 13 at 11:04
abarisone
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answered Nov 13 at 11:04
abarisone
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answered Nov 13 at 11:04
abarisone
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answered Nov 13 at 11:04
abarisone
13.4k1935
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I believe the OP's perplexity comes from the fact that it should be “ci sono solo Laura e la mia coscienza”; I'd call it a case of “poetic” licence.
– DaG
Nov 13 at 11:39
Thanks! One question out of interest, though -- Would it make as much sense if it were "ma tra bene ed amore c'è solo i ricordi/gli amici e la mia coscienza"? (Or, would it feel as coherent)
– Rethliopuks
Nov 13 at 15:25
3
@Rethliopuks In that case it should be ci sono solo i ricordi because ricordi is plural and the singular becomes too strained even for poetic license (at least in my opinion)
– Denis Nardin♦
Nov 13 at 15:34
@DenisNardin Thanks! One more question, would it feel ok if it were "ma tra bene ed amore c'è solo la mia coscienza ed i ricordi"?
– Rethliopuks
Nov 13 at 15:41
1
@Rethliopuks It would feel as ok as the original sentence. That is to say, it is grammatically wrong but you can mask it a bit with the rhythm of the sentence.
– Denis Nardin♦
Nov 13 at 15:45
add a comment |
5
I believe the OP's perplexity comes from the fact that it should be “ci sono solo Laura e la mia coscienza”; I'd call it a case of “poetic” licence.
– DaG
Nov 13 at 11:39
Thanks! One question out of interest, though -- Would it make as much sense if it were "ma tra bene ed amore c'è solo i ricordi/gli amici e la mia coscienza"? (Or, would it feel as coherent)
– Rethliopuks
Nov 13 at 15:25
3
@Rethliopuks In that case it should be ci sono solo i ricordi because ricordi is plural and the singular becomes too strained even for poetic license (at least in my opinion)
– Denis Nardin♦
Nov 13 at 15:34
@DenisNardin Thanks! One more question, would it feel ok if it were "ma tra bene ed amore c'è solo la mia coscienza ed i ricordi"?
– Rethliopuks
Nov 13 at 15:41
1
@Rethliopuks It would feel as ok as the original sentence. That is to say, it is grammatically wrong but you can mask it a bit with the rhythm of the sentence.
– Denis Nardin♦
Nov 13 at 15:45
5
5
I believe the OP's perplexity comes from the fact that it should be “ci sono solo Laura e la mia coscienza”; I'd call it a case of “poetic” licence.
– DaG
Nov 13 at 11:39
I believe the OP's perplexity comes from the fact that it should be “ci sono solo Laura e la mia coscienza”; I'd call it a case of “poetic” licence.
– DaG
Nov 13 at 11:39
Thanks! One question out of interest, though -- Would it make as much sense if it were "ma tra bene ed amore c'è solo i ricordi/gli amici e la mia coscienza"? (Or, would it feel as coherent)
– Rethliopuks
Nov 13 at 15:25
Thanks! One question out of interest, though -- Would it make as much sense if it were "ma tra bene ed amore c'è solo i ricordi/gli amici e la mia coscienza"? (Or, would it feel as coherent)
– Rethliopuks
Nov 13 at 15:25
3
3
@Rethliopuks In that case it should be ci sono solo i ricordi because ricordi is plural and the singular becomes too strained even for poetic license (at least in my opinion)
– Denis Nardin♦
Nov 13 at 15:34
@Rethliopuks In that case it should be ci sono solo i ricordi because ricordi is plural and the singular becomes too strained even for poetic license (at least in my opinion)
– Denis Nardin♦
Nov 13 at 15:34
@DenisNardin Thanks! One more question, would it feel ok if it were "ma tra bene ed amore c'è solo la mia coscienza ed i ricordi"?
– Rethliopuks
Nov 13 at 15:41
@DenisNardin Thanks! One more question, would it feel ok if it were "ma tra bene ed amore c'è solo la mia coscienza ed i ricordi"?
– Rethliopuks
Nov 13 at 15:41
1
1
@Rethliopuks It would feel as ok as the original sentence. That is to say, it is grammatically wrong but you can mask it a bit with the rhythm of the sentence.
– Denis Nardin♦
Nov 13 at 15:45
@Rethliopuks It would feel as ok as the original sentence. That is to say, it is grammatically wrong but you can mask it a bit with the rhythm of the sentence.
– Denis Nardin♦
Nov 13 at 15:45
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Actually I've found another – slightly different – lyrics for the same song here: http://www.angolotesti.it/A/testi_canzoni_antonio_mungari_64702/testo_canzone_laura_non_ce_1111998.html.
In this version, which by the way is what I understood by listening/meaning, the sentence is:
Solo Laura è la mia coscienza
This would mean that this sentence is unlinked to the previous one, and with this logic "c'è" is perfectly correct.
"C'è" can be translated with "there is" with the implied meaning of "there is something". You can consider it as a figure of speech, the implied "something" can (and should) remain untold because love is a very personal thing, therefore there isn't a specific something for everyone, but without any doubt there is something between love and affection.
Ma tra bene ed amore qualcosa c'è
But between good and love there is something
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Actually I've found another – slightly different – lyrics for the same song here: http://www.angolotesti.it/A/testi_canzoni_antonio_mungari_64702/testo_canzone_laura_non_ce_1111998.html.
In this version, which by the way is what I understood by listening/meaning, the sentence is:
Solo Laura è la mia coscienza
This would mean that this sentence is unlinked to the previous one, and with this logic "c'è" is perfectly correct.
"C'è" can be translated with "there is" with the implied meaning of "there is something". You can consider it as a figure of speech, the implied "something" can (and should) remain untold because love is a very personal thing, therefore there isn't a specific something for everyone, but without any doubt there is something between love and affection.
Ma tra bene ed amore qualcosa c'è
But between good and love there is something
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Actually I've found another – slightly different – lyrics for the same song here: http://www.angolotesti.it/A/testi_canzoni_antonio_mungari_64702/testo_canzone_laura_non_ce_1111998.html.
In this version, which by the way is what I understood by listening/meaning, the sentence is:
Solo Laura è la mia coscienza
This would mean that this sentence is unlinked to the previous one, and with this logic "c'è" is perfectly correct.
"C'è" can be translated with "there is" with the implied meaning of "there is something". You can consider it as a figure of speech, the implied "something" can (and should) remain untold because love is a very personal thing, therefore there isn't a specific something for everyone, but without any doubt there is something between love and affection.
Ma tra bene ed amore qualcosa c'è
But between good and love there is something
edited yesterday
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Actually I've found another – slightly different – lyrics for the same song here: http://www.angolotesti.it/A/testi_canzoni_antonio_mungari_64702/testo_canzone_laura_non_ce_1111998.html.
In this version, which by the way is what I understood by listening/meaning, the sentence is:
Solo Laura è la mia coscienza
This would mean that this sentence is unlinked to the previous one, and with this logic "c'è" is perfectly correct.
"C'è" can be translated with "there is" with the implied meaning of "there is something". You can consider it as a figure of speech, the implied "something" can (and should) remain untold because love is a very personal thing, therefore there isn't a specific something for everyone, but without any doubt there is something between love and affection.
Ma tra bene ed amore qualcosa c'è
But between good and love there is something
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This song is probably not the best example if you're looking for something grammatically accurate: quoting DaG, I'd consider this "c'è" instead of "ci sono" a "poetic license".
A few lines after you can also read "è strano che al suo posto ci sei te" instead of ci sia tu. I wouldn't try to give a particular reason to these sentences other than having the desired number of syllables and rhymes.
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This song is probably not the best example if you're looking for something grammatically accurate: quoting DaG, I'd consider this "c'è" instead of "ci sono" a "poetic license".
A few lines after you can also read "è strano che al suo posto ci sei te" instead of ci sia tu. I wouldn't try to give a particular reason to these sentences other than having the desired number of syllables and rhymes.
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This song is probably not the best example if you're looking for something grammatically accurate: quoting DaG, I'd consider this "c'è" instead of "ci sono" a "poetic license".
A few lines after you can also read "è strano che al suo posto ci sei te" instead of ci sia tu. I wouldn't try to give a particular reason to these sentences other than having the desired number of syllables and rhymes.
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This song is probably not the best example if you're looking for something grammatically accurate: quoting DaG, I'd consider this "c'è" instead of "ci sono" a "poetic license".
A few lines after you can also read "è strano che al suo posto ci sei te" instead of ci sia tu. I wouldn't try to give a particular reason to these sentences other than having the desired number of syllables and rhymes.
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The second and the third line are linked together and it works if you read them as an unique sentence.
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