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I repaired the permissions on my iMac and am now getting this dialog box whenever I delete something. I checked Finder > Preferences and "Empty Trash Securely" and "Show Warning" are both unchecked. When I delete a file I get a confirmation box and once I confirm, the file is deleted completely, skipping the Trash:




Are you sure you want to delete "filename"?

This item will be deleted immediately. You can't undo this action.




Any way to have it move items to the Trash, the default way?



EDIT: Here's the screenshot of the dialog.
Dialog: Are you sure you want to delete "..."? This item will be deleted immediately. You can't undo this action.



This came up when I created an empty folder on my Desktop and chose "Move to Trash".










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  • There might be some more errors in the logfiles, which you can view using Applications, Utilities, Console.

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I repaired the permissions on my iMac and am now getting this dialog box whenever I delete something. I checked Finder > Preferences and "Empty Trash Securely" and "Show Warning" are both unchecked. When I delete a file I get a confirmation box and once I confirm, the file is deleted completely, skipping the Trash:




Are you sure you want to delete "filename"?

This item will be deleted immediately. You can't undo this action.




Any way to have it move items to the Trash, the default way?



EDIT: Here's the screenshot of the dialog.
Dialog: Are you sure you want to delete "..."? This item will be deleted immediately. You can't undo this action.



This came up when I created an empty folder on my Desktop and chose "Move to Trash".










share|improve this question

























  • There might be some more errors in the logfiles, which you can view using Applications, Utilities, Console.

    – Arjan
    Feb 6 '11 at 19:42














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I repaired the permissions on my iMac and am now getting this dialog box whenever I delete something. I checked Finder > Preferences and "Empty Trash Securely" and "Show Warning" are both unchecked. When I delete a file I get a confirmation box and once I confirm, the file is deleted completely, skipping the Trash:




Are you sure you want to delete "filename"?

This item will be deleted immediately. You can't undo this action.




Any way to have it move items to the Trash, the default way?



EDIT: Here's the screenshot of the dialog.
Dialog: Are you sure you want to delete "..."? This item will be deleted immediately. You can't undo this action.



This came up when I created an empty folder on my Desktop and chose "Move to Trash".










share|improve this question
















I repaired the permissions on my iMac and am now getting this dialog box whenever I delete something. I checked Finder > Preferences and "Empty Trash Securely" and "Show Warning" are both unchecked. When I delete a file I get a confirmation box and once I confirm, the file is deleted completely, skipping the Trash:




Are you sure you want to delete "filename"?

This item will be deleted immediately. You can't undo this action.




Any way to have it move items to the Trash, the default way?



EDIT: Here's the screenshot of the dialog.
Dialog: Are you sure you want to delete "..."? This item will be deleted immediately. You can't undo this action.



This came up when I created an empty folder on my Desktop and chose "Move to Trash".







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  • There might be some more errors in the logfiles, which you can view using Applications, Utilities, Console.

    – Arjan
    Feb 6 '11 at 19:42



















  • There might be some more errors in the logfiles, which you can view using Applications, Utilities, Console.

    – Arjan
    Feb 6 '11 at 19:42

















There might be some more errors in the logfiles, which you can view using Applications, Utilities, Console.

– Arjan
Feb 6 '11 at 19:42





There might be some more errors in the logfiles, which you can view using Applications, Utilities, Console.

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It is what will always happen on any drive that the Finder cannot create a .trash folder. This is the same with written CDs, read-only USBs, most network shares (if you write to the root folder, it'll make a trash folder).



As it is happening on your own hard drive, it may be that you no longer own the Trash folder. This command will make your user account take ownership of it.



'sudo chown youruser ~/.Trash'






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    There's no Finder command to delete a file outright. The function is "Move to Trash" and has the shortcut command+delete.



    What exactly are you doing that is prompting this dialog box to show up? Also, can you post a screen shot of it? (Hit command+shift+4 and then hit spacebar to capture a single UI element like a dialog box.)



    You may get an authentication dialog if you try to delete system files, but there should be no warning if you just want to move something, say, on your Desktop to the trash. I would recommend that you actually keep the "Show warning before emptying the trash" selected so you can move as many files as you like to the trash freely and then get confirmation when deleting them for good.



    The only situation where files will be deleted outright instead of being moved to trash is when you are working on a network share. That is normal behavior.



    One last thing: make sure that the trash actually exists by opening up Terminal and running ls -la ~



    One of the first few lines that comes up should look like this:



    drwx------   3 nreilingh  staff     102 Feb  6 13:26 .Trash


    The leading . makes it a hidden folder, and your user should have write access.



    EDIT: I suppose it's possible that the permissions repair you mentioned didn't execute completely or properly. I would do that (and a disk repair) again just for kicks, and then start searching the filesystem for extended attributes. Perhaps the OS has labeled your homedirectory with an extended attribute that prevents it from trashing normally. No idea why that might have occurred, but there are only so many things that can go wrong.



    Also to be sure, is you filesystem structured normally with everything in a standard OS X hierarchy on the main boot disk?






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    • Added screenshot in my edit. The Trash exists with the correct permissions.

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    • @roflwaffle Weird; that's exactly the notification you'd get if you were deleting a file on a network server. If you plugged in an external or a USB drive and tried to delete something there, would you get the same behavior?

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    Well I restarted my machine and can Move to Trash normally now (should have restarted first, derp). That must have fixed some permissions problem? Thanks for the ideas.






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    • Heh. Indeed; step 1 of Mac troubleshooting is almost always "restart."

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      Feb 6 '11 at 20:41











    • Please accept your own answer as soon as possible to mark this question answered.

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    I encountered this problem after using the migration assistant to move an administrative user from one computer to another.



    To fix it, I had to do two things:



    (1) change the user's group to "staff". (You can do this in the System Preferences, Accounts tool, by right-clicking on the user. My user's group was just set to the user's own numerical id.)



    (2) also change the user's folder's group to "staff". (In the terminal, "sudo chgrp staff /Users/Eric")



    After making these two changes and logging back in, the trash worked correctly.






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      I faced the same problem after upgrading macOS Sierra to Mojave. The hidden .Trash folder in my user folder was recognized as file rather than a directory.



      Deleting it fixed the problem. Open Terminal by hitting cmd + spacebar and searching for "Terminal". Copy and paste this command into the terminal and hit Return:



      rm ~/.Trash


      macOS will create a new .Trash folder on the first "Move to Thrash" action and moving files to the Trash should work normally again.






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        It is what will always happen on any drive that the Finder cannot create a .trash folder. This is the same with written CDs, read-only USBs, most network shares (if you write to the root folder, it'll make a trash folder).



        As it is happening on your own hard drive, it may be that you no longer own the Trash folder. This command will make your user account take ownership of it.



        'sudo chown youruser ~/.Trash'






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          It is what will always happen on any drive that the Finder cannot create a .trash folder. This is the same with written CDs, read-only USBs, most network shares (if you write to the root folder, it'll make a trash folder).



          As it is happening on your own hard drive, it may be that you no longer own the Trash folder. This command will make your user account take ownership of it.



          'sudo chown youruser ~/.Trash'






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            It is what will always happen on any drive that the Finder cannot create a .trash folder. This is the same with written CDs, read-only USBs, most network shares (if you write to the root folder, it'll make a trash folder).



            As it is happening on your own hard drive, it may be that you no longer own the Trash folder. This command will make your user account take ownership of it.



            'sudo chown youruser ~/.Trash'






            share|improve this answer













            It is what will always happen on any drive that the Finder cannot create a .trash folder. This is the same with written CDs, read-only USBs, most network shares (if you write to the root folder, it'll make a trash folder).



            As it is happening on your own hard drive, it may be that you no longer own the Trash folder. This command will make your user account take ownership of it.



            'sudo chown youruser ~/.Trash'







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                There's no Finder command to delete a file outright. The function is "Move to Trash" and has the shortcut command+delete.



                What exactly are you doing that is prompting this dialog box to show up? Also, can you post a screen shot of it? (Hit command+shift+4 and then hit spacebar to capture a single UI element like a dialog box.)



                You may get an authentication dialog if you try to delete system files, but there should be no warning if you just want to move something, say, on your Desktop to the trash. I would recommend that you actually keep the "Show warning before emptying the trash" selected so you can move as many files as you like to the trash freely and then get confirmation when deleting them for good.



                The only situation where files will be deleted outright instead of being moved to trash is when you are working on a network share. That is normal behavior.



                One last thing: make sure that the trash actually exists by opening up Terminal and running ls -la ~



                One of the first few lines that comes up should look like this:



                drwx------   3 nreilingh  staff     102 Feb  6 13:26 .Trash


                The leading . makes it a hidden folder, and your user should have write access.



                EDIT: I suppose it's possible that the permissions repair you mentioned didn't execute completely or properly. I would do that (and a disk repair) again just for kicks, and then start searching the filesystem for extended attributes. Perhaps the OS has labeled your homedirectory with an extended attribute that prevents it from trashing normally. No idea why that might have occurred, but there are only so many things that can go wrong.



                Also to be sure, is you filesystem structured normally with everything in a standard OS X hierarchy on the main boot disk?






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                • Added screenshot in my edit. The Trash exists with the correct permissions.

                  – roflwaffle
                  Feb 6 '11 at 19:28











                • @roflwaffle Weird; that's exactly the notification you'd get if you were deleting a file on a network server. If you plugged in an external or a USB drive and tried to delete something there, would you get the same behavior?

                  – NReilingh
                  Feb 6 '11 at 19:53
















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                There's no Finder command to delete a file outright. The function is "Move to Trash" and has the shortcut command+delete.



                What exactly are you doing that is prompting this dialog box to show up? Also, can you post a screen shot of it? (Hit command+shift+4 and then hit spacebar to capture a single UI element like a dialog box.)



                You may get an authentication dialog if you try to delete system files, but there should be no warning if you just want to move something, say, on your Desktop to the trash. I would recommend that you actually keep the "Show warning before emptying the trash" selected so you can move as many files as you like to the trash freely and then get confirmation when deleting them for good.



                The only situation where files will be deleted outright instead of being moved to trash is when you are working on a network share. That is normal behavior.



                One last thing: make sure that the trash actually exists by opening up Terminal and running ls -la ~



                One of the first few lines that comes up should look like this:



                drwx------   3 nreilingh  staff     102 Feb  6 13:26 .Trash


                The leading . makes it a hidden folder, and your user should have write access.



                EDIT: I suppose it's possible that the permissions repair you mentioned didn't execute completely or properly. I would do that (and a disk repair) again just for kicks, and then start searching the filesystem for extended attributes. Perhaps the OS has labeled your homedirectory with an extended attribute that prevents it from trashing normally. No idea why that might have occurred, but there are only so many things that can go wrong.



                Also to be sure, is you filesystem structured normally with everything in a standard OS X hierarchy on the main boot disk?






                share|improve this answer


























                • Added screenshot in my edit. The Trash exists with the correct permissions.

                  – roflwaffle
                  Feb 6 '11 at 19:28











                • @roflwaffle Weird; that's exactly the notification you'd get if you were deleting a file on a network server. If you plugged in an external or a USB drive and tried to delete something there, would you get the same behavior?

                  – NReilingh
                  Feb 6 '11 at 19:53














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                There's no Finder command to delete a file outright. The function is "Move to Trash" and has the shortcut command+delete.



                What exactly are you doing that is prompting this dialog box to show up? Also, can you post a screen shot of it? (Hit command+shift+4 and then hit spacebar to capture a single UI element like a dialog box.)



                You may get an authentication dialog if you try to delete system files, but there should be no warning if you just want to move something, say, on your Desktop to the trash. I would recommend that you actually keep the "Show warning before emptying the trash" selected so you can move as many files as you like to the trash freely and then get confirmation when deleting them for good.



                The only situation where files will be deleted outright instead of being moved to trash is when you are working on a network share. That is normal behavior.



                One last thing: make sure that the trash actually exists by opening up Terminal and running ls -la ~



                One of the first few lines that comes up should look like this:



                drwx------   3 nreilingh  staff     102 Feb  6 13:26 .Trash


                The leading . makes it a hidden folder, and your user should have write access.



                EDIT: I suppose it's possible that the permissions repair you mentioned didn't execute completely or properly. I would do that (and a disk repair) again just for kicks, and then start searching the filesystem for extended attributes. Perhaps the OS has labeled your homedirectory with an extended attribute that prevents it from trashing normally. No idea why that might have occurred, but there are only so many things that can go wrong.



                Also to be sure, is you filesystem structured normally with everything in a standard OS X hierarchy on the main boot disk?






                share|improve this answer















                There's no Finder command to delete a file outright. The function is "Move to Trash" and has the shortcut command+delete.



                What exactly are you doing that is prompting this dialog box to show up? Also, can you post a screen shot of it? (Hit command+shift+4 and then hit spacebar to capture a single UI element like a dialog box.)



                You may get an authentication dialog if you try to delete system files, but there should be no warning if you just want to move something, say, on your Desktop to the trash. I would recommend that you actually keep the "Show warning before emptying the trash" selected so you can move as many files as you like to the trash freely and then get confirmation when deleting them for good.



                The only situation where files will be deleted outright instead of being moved to trash is when you are working on a network share. That is normal behavior.



                One last thing: make sure that the trash actually exists by opening up Terminal and running ls -la ~



                One of the first few lines that comes up should look like this:



                drwx------   3 nreilingh  staff     102 Feb  6 13:26 .Trash


                The leading . makes it a hidden folder, and your user should have write access.



                EDIT: I suppose it's possible that the permissions repair you mentioned didn't execute completely or properly. I would do that (and a disk repair) again just for kicks, and then start searching the filesystem for extended attributes. Perhaps the OS has labeled your homedirectory with an extended attribute that prevents it from trashing normally. No idea why that might have occurred, but there are only so many things that can go wrong.



                Also to be sure, is you filesystem structured normally with everything in a standard OS X hierarchy on the main boot disk?







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                • Added screenshot in my edit. The Trash exists with the correct permissions.

                  – roflwaffle
                  Feb 6 '11 at 19:28











                • @roflwaffle Weird; that's exactly the notification you'd get if you were deleting a file on a network server. If you plugged in an external or a USB drive and tried to delete something there, would you get the same behavior?

                  – NReilingh
                  Feb 6 '11 at 19:53



















                • Added screenshot in my edit. The Trash exists with the correct permissions.

                  – roflwaffle
                  Feb 6 '11 at 19:28











                • @roflwaffle Weird; that's exactly the notification you'd get if you were deleting a file on a network server. If you plugged in an external or a USB drive and tried to delete something there, would you get the same behavior?

                  – NReilingh
                  Feb 6 '11 at 19:53

















                Added screenshot in my edit. The Trash exists with the correct permissions.

                – roflwaffle
                Feb 6 '11 at 19:28





                Added screenshot in my edit. The Trash exists with the correct permissions.

                – roflwaffle
                Feb 6 '11 at 19:28













                @roflwaffle Weird; that's exactly the notification you'd get if you were deleting a file on a network server. If you plugged in an external or a USB drive and tried to delete something there, would you get the same behavior?

                – NReilingh
                Feb 6 '11 at 19:53





                @roflwaffle Weird; that's exactly the notification you'd get if you were deleting a file on a network server. If you plugged in an external or a USB drive and tried to delete something there, would you get the same behavior?

                – NReilingh
                Feb 6 '11 at 19:53











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                Well I restarted my machine and can Move to Trash normally now (should have restarted first, derp). That must have fixed some permissions problem? Thanks for the ideas.






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                • Heh. Indeed; step 1 of Mac troubleshooting is almost always "restart."

                  – NReilingh
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                • Please accept your own answer as soon as possible to mark this question answered.

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                Well I restarted my machine and can Move to Trash normally now (should have restarted first, derp). That must have fixed some permissions problem? Thanks for the ideas.






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                • Heh. Indeed; step 1 of Mac troubleshooting is almost always "restart."

                  – NReilingh
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                Well I restarted my machine and can Move to Trash normally now (should have restarted first, derp). That must have fixed some permissions problem? Thanks for the ideas.






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                Well I restarted my machine and can Move to Trash normally now (should have restarted first, derp). That must have fixed some permissions problem? Thanks for the ideas.







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                • Heh. Indeed; step 1 of Mac troubleshooting is almost always "restart."

                  – NReilingh
                  Feb 6 '11 at 20:41











                • Please accept your own answer as soon as possible to mark this question answered.

                  – Daniel Beck
                  Feb 7 '11 at 8:03



















                • Heh. Indeed; step 1 of Mac troubleshooting is almost always "restart."

                  – NReilingh
                  Feb 6 '11 at 20:41











                • Please accept your own answer as soon as possible to mark this question answered.

                  – Daniel Beck
                  Feb 7 '11 at 8:03

















                Heh. Indeed; step 1 of Mac troubleshooting is almost always "restart."

                – NReilingh
                Feb 6 '11 at 20:41





                Heh. Indeed; step 1 of Mac troubleshooting is almost always "restart."

                – NReilingh
                Feb 6 '11 at 20:41













                Please accept your own answer as soon as possible to mark this question answered.

                – Daniel Beck
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                Please accept your own answer as soon as possible to mark this question answered.

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                I encountered this problem after using the migration assistant to move an administrative user from one computer to another.



                To fix it, I had to do two things:



                (1) change the user's group to "staff". (You can do this in the System Preferences, Accounts tool, by right-clicking on the user. My user's group was just set to the user's own numerical id.)



                (2) also change the user's folder's group to "staff". (In the terminal, "sudo chgrp staff /Users/Eric")



                After making these two changes and logging back in, the trash worked correctly.






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                  I encountered this problem after using the migration assistant to move an administrative user from one computer to another.



                  To fix it, I had to do two things:



                  (1) change the user's group to "staff". (You can do this in the System Preferences, Accounts tool, by right-clicking on the user. My user's group was just set to the user's own numerical id.)



                  (2) also change the user's folder's group to "staff". (In the terminal, "sudo chgrp staff /Users/Eric")



                  After making these two changes and logging back in, the trash worked correctly.






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                    I encountered this problem after using the migration assistant to move an administrative user from one computer to another.



                    To fix it, I had to do two things:



                    (1) change the user's group to "staff". (You can do this in the System Preferences, Accounts tool, by right-clicking on the user. My user's group was just set to the user's own numerical id.)



                    (2) also change the user's folder's group to "staff". (In the terminal, "sudo chgrp staff /Users/Eric")



                    After making these two changes and logging back in, the trash worked correctly.






                    share|improve this answer













                    I encountered this problem after using the migration assistant to move an administrative user from one computer to another.



                    To fix it, I had to do two things:



                    (1) change the user's group to "staff". (You can do this in the System Preferences, Accounts tool, by right-clicking on the user. My user's group was just set to the user's own numerical id.)



                    (2) also change the user's folder's group to "staff". (In the terminal, "sudo chgrp staff /Users/Eric")



                    After making these two changes and logging back in, the trash worked correctly.







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                        I faced the same problem after upgrading macOS Sierra to Mojave. The hidden .Trash folder in my user folder was recognized as file rather than a directory.



                        Deleting it fixed the problem. Open Terminal by hitting cmd + spacebar and searching for "Terminal". Copy and paste this command into the terminal and hit Return:



                        rm ~/.Trash


                        macOS will create a new .Trash folder on the first "Move to Thrash" action and moving files to the Trash should work normally again.






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                          I faced the same problem after upgrading macOS Sierra to Mojave. The hidden .Trash folder in my user folder was recognized as file rather than a directory.



                          Deleting it fixed the problem. Open Terminal by hitting cmd + spacebar and searching for "Terminal". Copy and paste this command into the terminal and hit Return:



                          rm ~/.Trash


                          macOS will create a new .Trash folder on the first "Move to Thrash" action and moving files to the Trash should work normally again.






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                            I faced the same problem after upgrading macOS Sierra to Mojave. The hidden .Trash folder in my user folder was recognized as file rather than a directory.



                            Deleting it fixed the problem. Open Terminal by hitting cmd + spacebar and searching for "Terminal". Copy and paste this command into the terminal and hit Return:



                            rm ~/.Trash


                            macOS will create a new .Trash folder on the first "Move to Thrash" action and moving files to the Trash should work normally again.






                            share|improve this answer













                            I faced the same problem after upgrading macOS Sierra to Mojave. The hidden .Trash folder in my user folder was recognized as file rather than a directory.



                            Deleting it fixed the problem. Open Terminal by hitting cmd + spacebar and searching for "Terminal". Copy and paste this command into the terminal and hit Return:



                            rm ~/.Trash


                            macOS will create a new .Trash folder on the first "Move to Thrash" action and moving files to the Trash should work normally again.







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